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Started by Dave Ridley, December 24, 2004, 02:29 PM NHFT

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Dave Ridley

Sent one to the Union Leader on 4/6 about real id rally.

Dave Ridley

Here's the one I sent to the UL

Dear folks at the Union Leader:

On Saturday, April 22 from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m., somewhere between 50 and 300 supporters of a courageous and inspiring piece of legislation will rally outside the State House in Concord.  House Bill 1582 would say "no" to the Federal government's hated "Real ID" scheme. 

Real ID is an attempt to make you carry an expensive, Federally-approved identification card in place of your current, less-expensive driver's license.   Costs aside, the new card has the potential to track your every move and would place your personal info into a Fed database. 

Fortunately, the New Hampshire House...led by Rep. Neal Kurk of Weare...has voted to *defy* Washington and keep our state out of the Real ID system.  His bill would save us millions of dollars and help preserve *your* privacy.  It may also result in unforseen hardships for each of us, for Washington will surely direct some bureaucratic retaliation our way if we do not submit.

Join us on April 22. Let our senators know if they stand firm against Washington, you will stand with them.  For details call 721.1490 or head to NHfree.com

Dave Ridley

sent to Monitor

(for publication if you wish)

Dear Folks at the Monitor:

I wanted to thank you for your good coverage of the anti-Real-ID rally that happened on the 22nd in Concord.   There were 170 people there but you were the only mainstream media that attended; that's strange!  However I'm glad to see your stories have triggered coverage from the major national media.  This is possibly the biggest privacy story of the year, and hardly anyone has been telling it until this week. 

Feds want to track and number us like animals, State Senator Gatsas thinks that is just fine and is eager to let them, but the people of this state and most of our elected officials are saying DON'T YOU DARE. 

On Wednesday, in the absence of changes, our state senate votes on a bill which would keep N.H. OUT of the near-apocalyptic Real ID system.  If you want to make sure New Hampshire never puts your personal information into a Fed database, never makes it available to thousands of government workers, hackers and identity thieves...call your state senator and tell them this:

Vote "yes" in favor of N.H. House Bill 1582, the "Real ID Rejection Act."

You can reach the Senators at  271-2111 and leave your senator a message.    If you don't know who your senator is, call me at 721-1490, and if possible I'll find out for you.   If you can, come to the State House for the vote on Wednesday and join conservatives, libertarians and liberals alike as we make our presence felt in the Senate gallery. Call me with any questions, or find the details at GraniteStateID.com

intergraph19

Short but sweet.

Dear Editor,

The Real ID Act will initiate a national ID card, which you will need to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service. It will be an electronically readable version of your driver's license carrying your personal information, such as name, address, SSN, driving record, birth date, sex, digital photo, biometric information, and other requirements Home Land Security can add, such as fingerprints and a retinal scan. This information will reside in a national database, the largest single repository for personal information ever created, which will be accessible to all other states.
Washington is offering us 3 million dollars to get the program started, but conservative estimates put the total cost of implementing the program at about 12 million. That's 9 million dollars in additional taxes that we will have to pay to put this program in place. The New Hampshire senate is going to be voting on a bill that will keep New Hampshire from participating in the Real ID act. If a national ID card concerns you, then call your senator and ask them to vote yes to HB1582. For more information on this bill visit www.GraniteStateID.com.



And the longer version...


Your papers, please!  Just a line from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade? It might not be if the Real ID Act takes effect in New Hampshire. Piggy backed on a military spending bill last year, the Real ID Act will initiate a national ID card, which you will need to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service. It will be an electronically readable version of your driver's license carrying your personal information, such as name, address, SSN, driving record, birth date, sex, digital photo, biometric information, and other requirments Home Land Security can add as they see fit, such as fingerprints and a retinal scan. This information will reside in a national database, the largest single repository for personal information ever created, which will be accesible to all other states, and if you think this database will be hacker-proof, think again.
So why does Washington want to impliment the Real ID? For our saftey and to make finding terrorists easier. How hasn't really been explained all that well. All the 9-11 hijackers had valid ID. So how would this realy protect us? It wouldn't, only allow the government as a whole more micro managing powers to control our lives even more. Easy Pass can be used by police to see when you pass through tolls. No one mentioned that when it was pitched to New Hampshire residents. There is a great deal of discussion about putting an RFID chip in the licenses when Real ID takes effect. How easily can we be tracked then, if Easy Pass can already tell police where we are? Intended uses rarely stay only as intended, especially when the government is involved.
Would you like to know how much this great new ID would cost us in additional taxes? Washington is offering us 3 million dollars to get the program started, but conservative estimates put the total cost of implimenting the program at about 12 million. That's 9 million dollars in additional taxes that we will have to pay to put this program in place. The New Hampshire senate is going to be voting on a bill that will keep New Hampshire from participating in the Real ID act. If a national ID card concerns you, then call your senitor and ask them to vote yes to HB1582. For more information on this bill visit www.GraniteStateID.com.

Dreepa

Quote from: DadaOrwell on April 28, 2006, 10:22 PM NHFT
sent to Monitor

(for publication if you wish)

Dear Folks at the Monitor:

I wanted to thank you for your good coverage of the anti-Real-ID rally that happened on the 22nd in Concord.   There were 170 people there but you were the only mainstream media that attended; that's strange!  However I'm glad to see your stories have triggered coverage from the major national media.  This is possibly the biggest privacy story of the year, and hardly anyone has been telling it until this week. 

Feds want to track and number us like animals, State Senator Gatsas thinks that is just fine and is eager to let them, but the people of this state and most of our elected officials are saying DON'T YOU DARE. 

On Wednesday, in the absence of changes, our state senate votes on a bill which would keep N.H. OUT of the near-apocalyptic Real ID system.  If you want to make sure New Hampshire never puts your personal information into a Fed database, never makes it available to thousands of government workers, hackers and identity thieves...call your state senator and tell them this:

Vote "yes" in favor of N.H. House Bill 1582, the "Real ID Rejection Act."

You can reach the Senators at  271-2111 and leave your senator a message.    If you don't know who your senator is, call me at 721-1490, and if possible I'll find out for you.   If you can, come to the State House for the vote on Wednesday and join conservatives, libertarians and liberals alike as we make our presence felt in the Senate gallery. Call me with any questions, or find the details at GraniteStateID.com


This posted today (may 2)
http://concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060502/REPOSITORY/605020342/1029/OPINION03

Nice.

Also Jim Perry had one on Friday April 28th anti real id.

CNHT

I had another one in about voter fraud, the Kerry-paid Geoff Wetrosky and his voting scandal, and how nothing is being done about it by the illustrious Bud Fitch, on Sunday.

It even prompted an angry call from one Ray Buckley, who apparently used to be a State Rep. He was upset that this would appear in the mainstream media as he claims Wetrosky did not commit a crime by living in SD but voting here. Say what??? He could not also reckon with the fact that a town, in cahoots with certain people wanting more spending, got away with fining a group in Bedford $5,000 which was paid, just to prevent them from putting up the normal election signs.
The town officials claimed that WLMW 90.7 was commercial when no commercial station exists there, or would be allowed to on that band number!!! 


He did not like the fact that the firefighters union was committing a compelled speech violation by even HAVING a phone bank, that was supposedly jammed and for which one my friends spent 7 months in max security prison! If this is what warranted that kind of punishment, Wetrosky deserves therefore, nothing less than a public flogging for blatantly stealing a vote.


It is further frustrating to be listening to the Senate now, and some member got up and pronounced that there was no voter fraud in NH ? when we all know it is rampant and this is how Kerry/Lynch won...same day registrants who used addresses THAT DO NOT EVEN EXIST.



Dreepa

Quote from: CNHT on May 04, 2006, 11:56 AM NHFT
He was upset that this would appear in the mainstream media as he claims Wetrosky did not commit a crime by living in SD but voting here.

Is the guy dense? Live there, vote here.  Interesting.

Is anything ever going to happen about this?

CNHT

Quote from: Dreepa on May 04, 2006, 12:17 PM NHFT
Quote from: CNHT on May 04, 2006, 11:56 AM NHFT
He was upset that this would appear in the mainstream media as he claims Wetrosky did not commit a crime by living in SD but voting here.

Is the guy dense? Live there, vote here.  Interesting.

Is anything ever going to happen about this?

His argument was, well the cops did nothing to Wetrosky. It is not the police's purview, it should be the AG's office, namely Bud Fitch, who prosecutes this and it won't happen unless we raise a fuss. They would rather rehash ad naseum, the phone jamming thing, which is gone by, punished, etc!

But if you check, there are over 500 hits in Google for that and 25 about Wetrosky but we are working on getting more in there!
People need to get outraged. I had sent that LTE April 11 and it was just printed this Sunday.


CNHT

#325
This article needs a rebuttal! - http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060505/OPINION02/60505003/-1/OPINION01

Real ID Act necessary for national security
Stephen Rohm, Nashua
Published: Friday, May. 5, 2006

I believe The Telegraph editorial, ?State should contest national ID card law,? published on April 28 is, in its title alone, a prime example of ?yellow journalism.?

Each state has the sovereign right to decide who does and does not operate a motor vehicle. Other states extend this privilege and trust by recognizing another state?s license.

The only change the federal government seems to require with the Real ID Act is that an applicant not have broken a federal law by sneaking into our country, lying about their purpose for being here or ?disappearing? when their visa expires.

Are we one of 50 states making up the greatest country in history or are we so intent on doing things ?our way? that we will refuse to do ?the greatest good for the greatest number? (re: the definition of democracy)?

Question: How many of the 19 9/11 terrorists had driver?s licenses? Answer: All of them. Some had more than one.

While a few of these misguided maniacs were here legally and had legal licenses, there weren?t enough to pull off a horrific stunt of this magnitude had states been a little more scrupulous in their screening.

While no one can predict what these blasphemers of their own religion will do next, I shudder at the thought that they might do it under the guise of a New Hampshire driver?s license because it was easy to get.

Rejecting the Real ID Act on the basis that it violates ?civil liberties? presupposes these illegal aliens are a righteous part of the American society and are therefore entitled to the same rights as those who obey the rule of law. If this is the case, then there is no law at all.

One of the many problems our law enforcement people are hamstrung with is poor communication. Are we not telling all other 49 states that the bearer of a New Hampshire license is a law-abiding driver in our state? Do we want to do that if the bearer broke the law to come to our country and simply passed a driver?s test?

Furthermore, to compare a valid screening for a state driver?s license with a national ?Health Security Card? as proposed by the then president-in-waiting Hillary Clinton is simply ridiculous.

If the other states are awaiting New Hampshire?s lead ? then I say lead ? do the right thing and refuse to issue licenses to people who will lie and cheat to get into America and then demand their ?civil liberties.?

If only one in 1 million are of the same ilk as Mohammed Atta and his 18 toadies, then we already have enough to repeat the tragedy of 9/11.

---end---

And here is my LTE - which will be my 7th published if that pledgebank thingy is counting.  ;D (Does it count double if a State Rep calls you and yells at you?)

To the editor,

The article "Real ID Act necessary for national security" by Stephen Rohm of Nashua which was published Friday, May 5, 2006 claims that the Telegraph's article entitled "State should contest national ID card law,"  is 'yellow journalism'.

There are many of us who disagree and in fact, a majority of the NH House of Representatives passed a law to keep NH out of this Act. Many other groups also coalesced under the same idea including the National Governor's Association. Our own Governor Lynch (D) said he'd sign any bill that kept us out as well.

As for Rohm's main contention that it would help stem terrorism by keeping illegals out of the country, it is a well known fact that in NH we have thousands of 'undocumented' working here peacefully and who have never been bothered. Last year when Chief of Police G. Chamberlain from New Ipswich caught a few in some minor traffic violations, the ICE said it had no interest in deportation procedures. So how would a National ID help?

The cruel fact is, we are in the process of Globalization and the forces that are behind this process do not want to interfere with anything that will cause unrest, and rob countries of their sovereignty and put them under international law, thus nullifying our Constitution. This has already been done, to an extent, with the governance by treaties we have signed with the UN, another thing we should concentrate on opting out of as soon as possible, as a state, if not a nation.

Furthermore, the phrase 'yellow journalism' is wrongly used by Rohm. It usually refers to untruths. The piece in the Telegraph was not an untruth; it was an opinion that was not only 'right on' in attitude, but based on facts and ideas held by a majority of groups around the state and the nation as well.

What Conn was to Kelo, NH is to Real ID.
---end---

Atlas

It might be worth mentioning that some of these so-called hijackers have popped up in their respective Arab countries wondering why they were accused of the whole 9-11 thing. Obviously they're still alive! This whole terrorist getting ID thing is the usual crutch that is utilized to support the national ID.

Tunga

Tunga saved this from Fox news back in Feb. of aught two.

Tuesday, February 12, 2002   MEMPHIS, Tenn. - A driver's license examiner charged in a scheme with some Middle Eastern men to sell fraudulent licenses died the day before her first court appearance in a fiery car wreck prosecutors called "most unusual and suspicious."  Forensics tests were being performed on Katherine Smith's car to determine what caused the fire, FBI spokesman George Bolds said Tuesday.  "We're looking at everything ... whether it was an accident, whether it was a suicide or whether it was something else," said Bolds, who would not specifically discuss the possibility of explosives.  The FBI also said it is investigating whether Smith's five co-defendants have connections to the Sept. 11 attacks or other terrorist ties.  Smith, 49, was killed early Sunday. The 1992 Acura Legend she was driving ran off the road and struck a utility pole just north of the Mississippi state line, Highway Patrol Lt. Col. Mark Fagan said.  Smith's car "was immediately engulfed in flames," but authorities do not know whether the fire started before or after the crash, Fagan said. The body was so badly burned it took authorities until Tuesday to confirm Smith's identity.  The cause of death remains under investigation.  FBI agent J. Suzanne Nash said the gas tank did not explode and the car was only slightly dented from the crash.  Prosecutor Tim DiScenza called the crash "most unusual and suspicious."  Smith was one of six people charged last week by federal officials with conspiracy to get Tennessee driver's licenses under false pretenses. She had been scheduled for arraignment on Monday.  Also charged were Khaled Odtllah, 31, Sakhera Hammad, 24, Mohammed Fares, Mostafa Said Abou-Shahin and Abdelmuhsen Mahmid Hammad. Authorities did not give ages for the last three and said they admitted being in the country illegally.  The case broke last week when authorities staked out the driver's license office where Smith worked on a tip from the FBI in New York that several illegal immigrants from the Middle East were traveling to Memphis to illegally obtain state IDs, Nash said.  Smith, an examiner for nine years, told authorities that Odtllah was a friend who had asked her to help him obtain driver's licenses six or seven times, Nash said.  Nash said that when Sakhera Hammad was arrested, investigators found a visitor's pass for the World Trade Center, dated Sept. 5, 2001, in his wallet. He told authorities he was a plumber who worked on the center's sprinkler system. He said Abdelmuhsen Mahmid Hammad was a cousin who worked with him, Nash said.  Federal authorities learned that Odtllah drove to Memphis from New York City on Sept. 11, Nash said.  Anthony Helm, attorney for Odtllah, asked Nash in court: "You certainly don't have any indication any of these fellows is a terrorist, do you?"  "Not at this time, no sir," Nash said.  A hearing for Abou-Shahin, Abdelmuhsen Mahmid Hammad and Fares is scheduled for Wednesday. Odtllah and Sakhera Hammad remain held without bond until their trial. 

CNHT

Quote from: Dreepa on May 04, 2006, 12:17 PM NHFT
Quote from: CNHT on May 04, 2006, 11:56 AM NHFT
He was upset that this would appear in the mainstream media as he claims Wetrosky did not commit a crime by living in SD but voting here.

Is the guy dense? Live there, vote here.  Interesting.

Is anything ever going to happen about this?


Check this article! It's an outrage!

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Curtailing+voter+fraud%3A+Lynch+passes+up+the+chance&articleId=35237926-0d07-4a95-b6d6-fe9072d9b0df

president

Maybe Lauren and Jim can let Ed and Jane borrow the Nazi outfits.

"Papers Please"-CNHT