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Started by Isophix, August 05, 2009, 04:07 PM NHFT

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cathleeninnh

Quote from: AntonLee on August 09, 2009, 11:47 AM NHFT


... when I first went to Social Sunday (the first one) and Taproom Tuesday.  I asked if they thought the other type of activism had a place in New Hampshire.

At Social Sunday, I was told that of course there's a place for political activism.  I was told that they believed that "only in NH could a group get together and work politically to get things done."

At Taproom Tuesday, I was told that the civil disobedience crowd were "scumbags" and that they were "ruining this movement with their silly games"



That doesn't jibe with my experience. Over several years of shared experiences on both sides of this issue, I have heard more criticism of the political activism than the other way around.

Cathleen

EthanLeeVita

I'm not speaking as to what occurred, but just clarity in language that may further illuminate the issue. Criticism and insults are not the same.

AntonLee

Quote from: cathleeninnh on August 10, 2009, 11:18 AM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on August 09, 2009, 11:47 AM NHFT


... when I first went to Social Sunday (the first one) and Taproom Tuesday.  I asked if they thought the other type of activism had a place in New Hampshire.

At Social Sunday, I was told that of course there's a place for political activism.  I was told that they believed that "only in NH could a group get together and work politically to get things done."

At Taproom Tuesday, I was told that the civil disobedience crowd were "scumbags" and that they were "ruining this movement with their silly games"



That doesn't jibe with my experience. Over several years of shared experiences on both sides of this issue, I have heard more criticism of the political activism than the other way around.

Cathleen

I heard criticism too, I don't really mind the criticism.  Criticism is not the same thing as an insult to me.  What I heard were baseless insults of a particular group of people who do different activism.   Of course, everyone has their own experiences and have their own inventory.  For the record, the person I think Ragnar might be was a friendly person who welcomed me even though I was a bit overwhelmed at the time and didn't have much of a conversation with him.   :)

FTL_Ian

Quote from: AntonLee on August 09, 2009, 11:47 AM NHFT
At Social Sunday, I was told that of course there's a place for political activism.  I was told that they believed that "only in NH could a group get together and work politically to get things done."

At Taproom Tuesday, I was told that the civil disobedience crowd were "scumbags" and that they were "ruining this movement with their silly games"

Wow.  Well, while this was only the viewpoint of two individuals, I'd like to think we don't have people like the latter guy at Social Sundays at all.   :P

firecracker joe

Welcome to New Hampshire I think theres enough room in the state and in the "project" for all types that way it can even each other out.  Can't you all just get along or atleast
                                                   agree to disagree.

Ragnar76

Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on August 10, 2009, 05:56 AM NHFT
Quote from: bigmike on August 05, 2009, 06:43 PM NHFT
That's great. I hope you're more of an activist than a politico, but even that I still welcome you.

You must have meant to say political activist as opposed to a non-political activist.

Precisely

Isophix

#21
Quote from: Russell Kanning on August 10, 2009, 05:46 AM NHFT
what kind of job are you looking for
do you have wheels after you land?

I am going to be hoofing it.

As far as work, I can do just about anything. I have alot of "troubleshooting" experience with PCs. I have excellent customer service skills, and have held a gaming (casino employee) license for the past 7 years or so. I handle literally hundred thousands of dollars daily. I really don't care what I do, as my work tends to be a source of income, more than a source of fulfillment for me. Of course, I would like to do something "helpful".

As far as the topic of "proper activism", anyone who claims to be a liberty activist, and bashes another for the method of their peaceful activism, is a hypocrite, in my opinion. Some people find more fulfillment in "shock" tactics, to stir people out of their apathy. Sometimes, you need to make people a bit pissed off to get them thinking.

Now, that isn't my personal style. I would prefer to sit down with open minded people, and exchange ideas. The problem is that most people are not interested in being open minded, or just don't care at all. The other issue is that many of the people who do care, tend to want to be "motherly", and tell you what you should and should not do, for your own good.

Burke said it best: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Personally, I think it foolish to demean those good men (and women, of course) who are doing something, even if you don't agree with the exact course they are taking.

firecracker joe


bigmike

Hey dude we're coming to pick you up. We'll be holding signs that say ISOPHIX

Renniks

So we arrived at the air port at 12:20 and waited around with a sign for about a half hour and nobody showed up. I think i may go back in a little bit to try again because I feel bad if nobody is there to find this guy. If anyone has his number plz drop a 411 or write a post.