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Started by Friday, January 08, 2009, 08:37 AM NHFT

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Lloyd Danforth


Jim Johnson

Crap.....
I'm going to bitch'n about Obama.


Lloyd Danforth

Oh....OK!

Facilitator To The Icon

and I'll throw in some:

:Bacon_by_danniep:

Jim Johnson


Friday

Quote from: Radical and Stuff on January 09, 2009, 12:38 PM NHFT
Quote from: David on January 09, 2009, 11:47 AM NHFT
I know with the many republicans here it is easy to jump on Obama because he isn't a good republican, but Obama hasn't done anything yet beyond talking.  He will not be in charge of squat till the 20th. 
The irony of the bailouts, is even though the dems proclaim support, they wouldn't vote on them unless the gop did also, and wouldn't even pass the detroit bailout, that was the Decider #1. 
I am irritated by all the anti Obama sentiment, for what he hasn't done, yet the Decider who proclaims his love for tax cuts and small(er) gov't, hasn't seen a borrowed or hot of the presses dollar bill that he hasn't wanted to spend, or a (big campaign donor) corporation he didn't want to nationalize in all but name.  The Decider gets a pass.  Obama can't do too much worse than the Decider, the Decider grabbed guns in New Orleans, and possible in Galvaston, not Obama he has frustrated land owners in the west, breaking campaign promises to them,  etc.  Any thing else is revisionist history. 
But Obama is a democrat, and so all good repubs must hate him based on a label alone.   ::)  (This rant was not directed to you Friday, but there are several posts here about The Decider #2, and I cant help but to see a bit of hypocrisy in some of the anti-Obama rants.)

I actually had a wet dream last night which involved me going through a sex change operation just so I could have an illegitimate love child by the Decider, man is he dreamy!
bwahahah

Friday

Quote from: David on January 09, 2009, 11:47 AM NHFT
He will not be in charge of squat till the 20th. 
I disagree, David.  For weeks now, Obama has been appointing the people who will be running the U.S. government for the next few years.  He's also moving quickly to socialize U.S. healthcare.

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A swift attack is coming. "We need to be on the offense," said the soon to be Secretary of Health and Human Services, Tom Daschle. He claims they learned, from the Clinton failure, how to pass socialized healthcare.

President-elect Obama believes that his health care gimmicks should be part of his economic recovery schemes. While you and I were decking the halls, and kissing our sweethearts under the mistletoe, he was stealthily advancing his agenda.

During the last half of December the Obama transition team held house meetings across the country. They took the feedback from these socialist trysts, then posted it at their interactive site, Change.gov. The Obama administration is conspiring to hit the ground running in January, using the claim that these meetings represent public support to compel Congress to act . . .

. . . and pass the package quickly.

The author of the bill is likely to be Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA). He's very sick, but has been running meetings from his bed. He wants his dying legacy to be the nationalization of health insurance.

Many of the groups and parties that opposed the old Clinton version of socialized healthcare AREN'T opposing the Obama version -- even if they're not completely sure what Mr. Obama's plan will entail....The American Medical Association (AMA) is one of the groups that opposed the Clinton plan but that is now supporting the Obama/Kennedy plan. Most of the health insurance companies have become turncoats too.
from: http://www.downsizedc.org/blog/ted+kennedy%27s+deathbed+legacy

Raineyrocks

Quote from: Friday on January 08, 2009, 08:37 AM NHFT
He hasn't even been sworn in yet, and I already hate him.  I don't know what it is, but just looking at his face makes my skin crawl.  I've got a bad feeling about this President.   >:(

Ever since I found out about the corruption and lots of other things, every president has given me the creeps.  :P 

Raineyrocks

  http://www.prisonplanet.com/obamas-energy-czar-socialist-agent-for-world-government.html

Obama's Energy Czar: Socialist Agent For World Government

Socialist International scrubs Carol Browner but deep connections to Bilderberg and globalist agenda remain

Obamas Energy Czar: Socialist Agent For World Government 090109top

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, January 9, 2009

Barack Obama's "climate czar" Carol Browner has been exposed as being a member of Socialist International, a highly influential group headed by a Bilderberg Group luminary that calls for the implementation of global government, despite Socialist International's attempts to seemingly "memory-hole" information about Browner on their website.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that Obama and his cabinet are preparing to exploit fearmongering about global warming to push new measures of taxation, regulation and internationalism. Obama himself has vigorously promoted the revival of a bill that would slash carbon emissions by 80 per cent, a move that would inflict a new Great Depression, cost millions of jobs, and sink America to near third world status.

Obama has also publicly stated his intention to create a new infrastructure of "green brigades" and informants to regulate every aspect of our behavior in the name of saving the planet under the guise of a "national civilian security force," a cadre we are guaranteed will be as strong or stronger than the U.S. Army.

To carry out this agenda, Obama is busy filling his cabinet with extremists who are members of organizations that are openly hostile to America remaining a free market society and a sovereign country.


Carol Browner, who is is slated to be Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change in the Obama Administration, is a member of Socialist International, a group that calls for the institution of "democratic forms of global governance as the foundation for building a peaceful and sustainable world society overall."

That's funny, because I don't remember reading anywhere in the Constitution, the document that Obama will swear to uphold at his inauguration on January 20, about "global governance" or the need to implement it. Indeed, global governance in any form is inherently undemocratic because it centralizes more power into fewer hands.

Socialist International's charter of principles also states that "A principal task of new global governance must be to ensure that the benefits of global economic growth and the opportunities for economic development are distributed fairly" (a 'benign' socialist world government).

The group also calls for a new international financial framework to replace Bretton Woods, a proposal that Obama has staunchly advocated.

Socialist International has deep connections with the Bilderberg Group. The former President of Socialist International, António Guterres, is a Bilderberg member, as is current President George A. Papandreou. Other Socialist International vice-presidents include Israeli Minister of Defense Ehud Barak and Gordon Brown, the current British Prime Minister.

At the Congress of the Socialist International held last June 30-July 2, the organization all but announced its plan to mandate an international tax in the name of combating global warming. "Market solutions alone are insufficient and will not provide the financial support and resources necessary to achieve the required combination of deep emission reduction, adaptation to already changing climate conditions, energy security and equitable and environmentally sound economic development," according to the group.

"Again, that's bureaucratese," writes the DC Examiner, "It means that international taxes should be imposed to provide the "resources necessary" to impose what the CSWS repeatedly refers to as a 'regime" against "global warming." By appointing Browner to a White House post, Obama has at the least implicitly endorsed an utterly radical socialist agenda for his administration's environmental policy. The incoming chief executive thus strengthens critics who contend environmental policies aren't really about protecting endangered species or preserving virgin lands, but rather expanding government power and limiting individual freedom."

"Conservatives are often accused of scaremongering when they claim left-wing environmentalists are actually socialists hiding behind green disguises. But with Carol Browner, incoming President Barack Obama's freshly appointed Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change – the so-called White House "Climate Czar" - there is no question about the socialism."

Oddly enough, as soon as blogs began talking about Browner's socialist affiliations, the Socialist International website scrubbed from its web site the fact that President-elect Obama's energy/environment czar was an official with SI.

As the Junk Science blog notes, "If there's nothing wrong with an acknowledged socialist being a top Obama administration official, then what's up with the mysterious and Stalinist-like disappearance of Browner from SI's web site?" Junk Science was able to save a PDF file showing Browner's photo on the website as of January 2, but you won't find it there now.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: raineyrocks on January 10, 2009, 03:16 PM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on January 08, 2009, 08:37 AM NHFT
He hasn't even been sworn in yet, and I already hate him.  I don't know what it is, but just looking at his face makes my skin crawl.  I've got a bad feeling about this President.   >:(

Ever since I found out about the corruption and lots of other things, every president has given me the creeps.  :P 

Every new president has taken less time for me to hate him.  Obama is the first one I'm tired of before the Ignawgeration.
Woulda been the same with Hillary.

Russell Kanning

ditto
this guy didnt even pretend he wouldnt be a commie

BillKauffman

Quote from: raineyrocks on January 10, 2009, 04:33 PM NHFT
 Obama himself has vigorously promoted the revival of a bill that would slash carbon emissions by 80 per cent, a move that would inflict a new Great Depression, cost millions of jobs, and sink America to near third world status.

If you believe global climate change is created by human action, then aren't carbon emissions and the resulting negative externailities just another form of taxation on those not a party to a transaction?

Externalities are only possible when property rights are not properly assigned.

Pat K

#26
Quote from: BillKauffman on January 11, 2009, 03:31 PM NHFT
Quote from: raineyrocks on January 10, 2009, 04:33 PM NHFT
 Obama himself has vigorously promoted the revival of a bill that would slash carbon emissions by 80 per cent, a move that would inflict a new Great Depression, cost millions of jobs, and sink America to near third world status.

If you believe global climate change is created by human action, then aren't carbon emissions and the resulting negative externailities just another form of taxation on those not a party to a transaction?

Externalities are only possible when property rights are not properly assigned.

That global climate change is affected by humans
is like the heat load of your house is affected
by your kids hamster running on a wheel.

Sure it adds to the heat load but I wouldn't
cancel the oil delivery.

John Edward Mercier

I think the SCOTUS ruling pretty much ended the debate.

BillKauffman

Quote from: John Edward Mercier on January 11, 2009, 07:37 PM NHFT
I think the SCOTUS ruling pretty much ended the debate.


?

You mean the one that said that CO2 is a pollutant and therefore could be regulated under the EPA?

John Edward Mercier

Pretty much.

Its pretty doubtful that under the current administration with the pressure from so many States to regulate carbon dioxide emissions, that any increase in the atmospheric readings will result in restrictions.