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Anyone do metal roofing?

Started by FTL_Ian, February 06, 2009, 11:40 AM NHFT

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ColdSoul

Sorry did roofing for a bit but not metal only hot mop, tile and regular roofing. But from what I heard metal roofs are fairly easy to put up it's mainly setting up the roof to be a metal roof that is the harder part.

One thing to remember is that as with anything you want to get multiple estimates and make sure you know what is included in the estimate as sometimes someone might just look at your roof and estimate the number of squares it will take. Now if they are going to eat the costs if they miss-judge it might be to your benefit, but if they walk off with the job 1/2 finished you might be in a world of hurt.

What I don't get is why here in NH people don't have steeper roofs than in california. We use to regularly have 4-6's (the length to height ratio) and from the little architecture I took I always assumed here in the North everyone would have atleast a 6-8. Most church steeples are a 10-12 (which are a pain to work on because at that steep a slope you have to put bracer's so you don't slip off).

Good luck and hope you find someone good and cheap.

BillKauffman

QuoteMost church steeples are a 10-12 (which are a pain to work on because at that steep a slope you have to put bracer's so you don't slip off).

There you have the answer. The flatter the roof, the easy to work on and the less expense to construct.

Jim Johnson

#17
It will be cheaper to redo your asphalt with asphalt and a 3 or 4 foot metal edge.
I can plan and direct with Roger and Cooper... and a couple of others as helpers.

Tom Sawyer


FTL_Ian

Is metal really expensive?  I think it's pretty.

Russell Kanning

You could do metal or a combo, but i would want the fix the root also.
I can do it or help stooges construction. The metal roof we completed in Hobbiton has turned out great. But you will always want to keep the heat in and away from your roof.
Metal doesn't mean that the snow will fall off. Sometimes bad things happen when it does fall off too.

John Edward Mercier

Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on February 07, 2009, 07:48 AM NHFT
Is metal really expensive?  I think it's pretty.
A lot more expansive than Ice Guard and shingles.

Pat McCotter

Quote from: BillKauffman on February 06, 2009, 03:42 PM NHFT

Energy prices are probably going up again. They are not making anymore of it.

No more energy  being made!?!?!?!?! What are we going to do?!?!?!?!?!?

BillKauffman

Quote from: Pat McCotter on February 07, 2009, 10:35 AM NHFT
Quote from: BillKauffman on February 06, 2009, 03:42 PM NHFT

Energy prices are probably going up again. They are not making anymore of it.

No more energy  being made!?!?!?!?! What are we going to do?!?!?!?!?!?

LOL - I meant fossil fuels which I presume Ian is using to melt the snow on his roof with!

Since metal is a better conductor of heat than asphalt he will do a better job of melting the snow, but it will slide off and not form an ice dam. Most people just use snow "roof rakes" to pull the snow off the edges of asphalt roofs.

John Edward Mercier

LOL- If the First Law of Thermodynamics holds true... you were correct the first post.

If he fixes the heat loss with insulation and such... wouldn't the metal still retain enough cold to keep the snow from sliding? I ask because I'm currently looking at a metal roof across the street still covered with snow.

BillKauffman

Quote from: John Edward Mercier on February 07, 2009, 01:02 PM NHFT
LOL- If the First Law of Thermodynamics holds true... you were correct the first post.

If he fixes the heat loss with insulation and such... wouldn't the metal still retain enough cold to keep the snow from sliding? I ask because I'm currently looking at a metal roof across the street still covered with snow.

I think, as someone else posted, it depends on the pitch of the roof.

Also, some metal roofs have "snow guards" that actually keep snow from sliding off roofs.

http://www.professionalroofing.net/archives/past/mar02/essentials.asp

Finally, sometimes gutters can keep the snow from sliding.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-hampshire/269249-metal-roof-question.html



Pat McCotter

Quote from: BillKauffman on February 07, 2009, 10:45 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on February 07, 2009, 10:35 AM NHFT
Quote from: BillKauffman on February 06, 2009, 03:42 PM NHFT

Energy prices are probably going up again. They are not making anymore of it.

No more energy  being made!?!?!?!?! What are we going to do?!?!?!?!?!?

LOL - I meant fossil fuels which I presume Ian is using to melt the snow on his roof with!


You need to read up on your Thomas Gold, Bill. You can't go neglecting him in favor of Locke and Nock, now.

Quote from: John Edward Mercier on February 07, 2009, 01:02 PM NHFT
LOL- If the First Law of Thermodynamics holds true... you were correct the first post.

Thanks John! Just throw the laws of nature into the argument! As if we don't have enough laws to abide by already. ;)

BillKauffman

QuoteYou need to read up on your Thomas Gold, Bill. You can't go neglecting him in favor of Locke and Nock, now.

Yes, another abiogenic fossil fuel crank!

John Edward Mercier

Quote from: Pat McCotter on February 10, 2009, 04:00 AM NHFT
Quote from: BillKauffman on February 07, 2009, 10:45 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on February 07, 2009, 10:35 AM NHFT
Quote from: BillKauffman on February 06, 2009, 03:42 PM NHFT

Energy prices are probably going up again. They are not making anymore of it.

No more energy  being made!?!?!?!?! What are we going to do?!?!?!?!?!?

LOL - I meant fossil fuels which I presume Ian is using to melt the snow on his roof with!


You need to read up on your Thomas Gold, Bill. You can't go neglecting him in favor of Locke and Nock, now.

Quote from: John Edward Mercier on February 07, 2009, 01:02 PM NHFT
LOL- If the First Law of Thermodynamics holds true... you were correct the first post.

Thanks John! Just throw the laws of nature into the argument! As if we don't have enough laws to abide by already. ;)
I actually hate to describe physical science in terms of 'law'... learned by lesson after Newton was done in by the Theory of Relativity.

As for the fossil fuels... a biogenic theory would hold that they are currently being produced. Though in far smaller quantity than the consumption level.



jaqeboy

Ian, I'll bring you a booklet called Metal Roof Design for Cold Climates by the Metal Construction Association this Sunday, since I'm coming over to Keene. We can talk about it a bit, if you'd like. There are some innovative energy things you can do with a metal roof, but as usual, $$ are involved.

Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on February 06, 2009, 11:40 AM NHFT
A fucking ice dam has compromised my roof and the side wall of my house.  I'd like to see what a new metal roof will cost me.  Anyone do this sort of work?