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They are killing Jeffersonian Principals Bill - HCR0006!!!?!!

Started by leetninja, February 12, 2009, 02:34 PM NHFT

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leetninja

There are p411s coming in that they are voting against it?!

Press conference at 4pm - please anyone who can go get there as soon as possible

Press conference is at the statehouse at the LOB Lobby!

Not a lot of time to act on this one but this bill needs to survive!!!!!!

K. Darien Freeheart

Thanks for the updates. I'm at work with no sound and I'm seeing the Porc 411 calls coming in.

It kind of sucks that they're killing it but then again... passage of it wouldn't have changed much anyway.

It's a good indicator of how the early movers have been drumming up support for at least some of the principles of liberty. It just shows there's more to be done, and more people needed.

sandm000

How many other states proposed a bill as strongly worded?
How many didn't propose anything at all?

Lumpy

Quote from: Kevin Dean on February 12, 2009, 02:45 PM NHFT
Thanks for the updates. I'm at work with no sound and I'm seeing the Porc 411 calls coming in.

It kind of sucks that they're killing it but then again... passage of it wouldn't have changed much anyway.

It's a good indicator of how the early movers have been drumming up support for at least some of the principles of liberty. It just shows there's more to be done, and more people needed.
Depending on your service plan you may be able to get audio text messages to your cell.  As far as I know, you only need to have the ability to text.  Maybe a speaker phone as well; not sure.

Lumpy

I am not 100% on the politico stuff at this juncture in my evolution but I sure feel compelled to go and bitch at the state house...  too bad I'm stuck out of state for now.  I sure hope to hear some good news about this.  I do think that simply the fact that this was presented speaks volumes.  What will truly speak of New Hampshire's legacy is it passing.

K. Darien Freeheart

QuoteDepending on your service plan you may be able to get audio text messages to your cell.  As far as I know, you only need to have the ability to text.  Maybe a speaker phone as well; not sure.

I don't exactly have "a plan". I use pre-paid Tracfones. I could probably have them sent there, but sometimes the Porc411 volume greatly exceeds what I want to pay for, especially being out of state and unable to assist with anything.

That might change once I move. For the next month or so, I need to save the money.

Fluff and Stuff

I figured the committee would ITL this resolution.  If not the committee, I figured the state house would vote it down.  I think most people following this issue closely feel the same way.

KBCraig

A committee vote of ITL is not the same as killing a bill. Every bill in NH gets voted on on the floor, most of them on the "consent calendar", where the full house votes to accept the committees' recommendations of ITL or OTP.

But, any rep can demand a particular bill be pulled off the consent calendar and voted on directly. Many ITL bill have passed this way, and many OTP bills have failed.

Especially if Neal Kurk is taking sides.  ;)

Puke

Does this bill assume that politicians have any clue who Jefferson is and what his principles were?
Poli's aren't so bright you know.

BillKauffman

Quote from: Puke on February 13, 2009, 05:23 AM NHFT
Does this bill assume that politicians have any clue who Jefferson is and what his principles were?

Many of Jefferson's principles were contradictory.

Example - he was against slavery but had slaves.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: Puke on February 13, 2009, 05:23 AM NHFT
Does this bill assume that politicians have any clue who Jefferson is and what his principles were?
Poli's aren't so bright you know.

Like Lincoln, it's a good name to drop,to get their attention.

dalebert

Quote from: BillKauffman on February 13, 2009, 05:57 AM NHFT
Many of Jefferson's principles were contradictory.

Example - he was against slavery but had slaves.

That was probably just his idea of working through the system.

John Edward Mercier

Quote from: Puke on February 13, 2009, 05:23 AM NHFT
Does this bill assume that politicians have any clue who Jefferson is and what his principles were?
Poli's aren't so bright you know.

They know what it means.

thinkliberty

Quote from: John Edward Mercier on February 13, 2009, 11:53 AM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on February 13, 2009, 05:23 AM NHFT
Does this bill assume that politicians have any clue who Jefferson is and what his principles were?
Poli's aren't so bright you know.

They know what it means.


If they vote for the bill does that mean that they get to move on up? That will ensure it's passing.

Quote
Well we're movin on up,
To the east side.
To a deluxe apartment in the sky.
Movin on up
To the east side.
We finally got a piece of the pie.

Fish don't fry in the kitchen;
Beans don't burn on the grill.
Took a whole lotta tryin'
Just to get up that hill.
Now we're up in the big leagues
Gettin' our turn at bat.
As long as we live, it's you and me baby
There ain't nothin wrong with that.

Well we're movin on up,
To the east side.
To a deluxe apartment in the sky.
Movin on up
To the east side.
We finally got a piece of the pie.

Wrong jefferson?

Tom Sawyer

If the sponsors of this bill had had the courage to introduce it during the Bush administration's abuses it would have had a chance of passing and wouldn't appear to be obvious partisan politics.

Some how the new communist is the line in the sand, where the old fascist's crimes weren't.