They are killing Jeffersonian Principals Bill - HCR0006!!!?!!

[bigmike]

How many other states proposed a bill as strongly worded?
How many didn't propose anything at all?

I saw on Glen Beck tonight a NH State Rep that said initially there were 8 other states besides NH with proposed legislation, and then another 12 new states in the past week

[John Edward Mercier]

They have a map on one of the sites... but in many cases if they passed the bill the federal government would just remove their statehood and return them to territorial status.
Same with NH, its free to leave... but then has no travel nor trade policy with the US.
Nor with any other country for that matter.

[Ogre]

Same with NH, its free to leave... but then has no travel nor trade policy with the US.
Nor with any other country for that matter.

Um... Yay!

[Lumpy]

Alex Jones interview before Dan goes in to Glen Beck.
This sure seems to be reaching across the nation...  the Second Shot Heard 'round the World?

http://www.youtube.com/v/DORXF1c3jGU&hl
http://www.youtube.com/v/zFl0dkCS9KA&hl

[Kat Kanning]

I heard 22 states were introducing similar resolutions.  BTW, Dan Itse was on Alex Jones yesterday talking about this.

[Free libertarian]

If the sponsors of this bill had had the courage to introduce it during the Bush administration's abuses it would have had a chance of passing and wouldn't appear to be obvious partisan politics.

Some how the new communist is the line in the sand, where the old fascist's crimes weren't.

Excellent point.  Alot of politics is timing.

[MTPorcupine3]

Many of Jefferson's principles were contradictory.

Example - he was against slavery but had slaves.

Well, it's not so simple as that. He had slaves because he inherited them from his mother-in-law. Freeing slaves in those days was like making one walk the plank. Rather than dump them out in the world, he treated them well. And he freed those who wanted to be free and who demonstrated that they were capable of taking care of themselves.

[KBCraig]

Robert E. Lee was also self-contradictory in this regard. As executor of his father's estate, he inherited control of almost 200 slaves, which he called an "unpleasant legacy". The will called for manumission no later than 5 years after the father's death, but Lee, with no experience managing a plantation, used many of the slaves for the full five years, effecting their manumission in 1862.

Lee welcomed free black soldiers in his army, but he also held the prevailing view of it being the "white man's burden" to improve the lot of the black man.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Jefferson sucked as president.

[BillKauffman]

Many of Jefferson's principles were contradictory.

Example - he was against slavery but had slaves.

Well, it's not so simple as that. He had slaves because he inherited them from his mother-in-law. Freeing slaves in those days was like making one walk the plank. Rather than dump them out in the world, he treated them well. And he freed those who wanted to be free and who demonstrated that they were capable of taking care of themselves.

I agree. He also didn't want to trade them to get out of debt because he knew that they would just be sold again.

[John Edward Mercier]

Same with NH, its free to leave... but then has no travel nor trade policy with the US.
Nor with any other country for that matter.

Um... Yay!

It means if you travel or work outside NH you'll be arrested as an illegal alien.
It also means that things like food, gasoline, etc can be shut off from NH.

[JJ]

Same with NH, its free to leave... but then has no travel nor trade policy with the US.
Nor with any other country for that matter.

Um... Yay!

It means if you travel or work outside NH you'll be arrested as an illegal alien.
It also means that things like food, gasoline, etc can be shut off from NH.

With the way things are in the economy, I don't think companies will want to lose a customer.

[Free libertarian]

Same with NH, its free to leave... but then has no travel nor trade policy with the US.
Nor with any other country for that matter.

Um... Yay!

It means if you travel or work outside NH you'll be arrested as an illegal alien.
It also means that things like food, gasoline, etc can be shut off from NH.

Not if we establish a good relationship with the Canadians.  Buy land in Pittsburg, NH while you still can! 

[John Edward Mercier]

Same with NH, its free to leave... but then has no travel nor trade policy with the US.
Nor with any other country for that matter.

Um... Yay!

It means if you travel or work outside NH you'll be arrested as an illegal alien.
It also means that things like food, gasoline, etc can be shut off from NH.

With the way things are in the economy, I don't think companies will want to lose a customer.

They wouldn't have a choice...
Even if they were allowed to import goods into NH... without a way for NH to make payment, it would be a matter of months before internal collapse.

[John Edward Mercier]

Same with NH, its free to leave... but then has no travel nor trade policy with the US.
Nor with any other country for that matter.

Um... Yay!

It means if you travel or work outside NH you'll be arrested as an illegal alien.
It also means that things like food, gasoline, etc can be shut off from NH.

Not if we establish a good relationship with the Canadians.  Buy land in Pittsburg, NH while you still can! 

Pretty hard to do. Ottawa supports the British Crown, which supports the United States through several trade and security agreements. Quebec has several political parties... most have a great deal of disapproval for anglophones and the American lifestyle.