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Ridley videos speeding ticket live

Started by TackleTheWorld, March 01, 2009, 11:15 PM NHFT

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TackleTheWorld

Dave Ridley was able to stream live video and audio from a traffic stop.  The police woman asked him where he was going, he wouldn't say.  Dave pleads the 5th.  Police woman says he has no 5th during a stop.  It could be bad audio, but I think Dave was being silent in the face of her questions.  Nice going Dave!!

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Russell Kanning

very cool
so when does he upgrade to the al franken snl headmounted satellite linkup?

I could see that on a normal stop ... a cop will not let you go without showing your "papers"

Coconut

"I have every right to know why you're in the vehicle."
What?

Russell Kanning

that's the way they look at it ... as they own the roads and everything "operating" on them

Porcupine_in_MA

Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 02, 2009, 11:20 PM NHFT
that's the way they look at it ... as they own the roads and everything "operating" on them

They do own the roads as much as I hate the fact.

Russell Kanning

by use of force .... I don't think of them as owning them

Shorty Dawkins

Quote from: Porcupine The Prickly Polytheist on March 02, 2009, 11:49 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 02, 2009, 11:20 PM NHFT
that's the way they look at it ... as they own the roads and everything "operating" on them

They do own the roads as much as I hate the fact.

"They" do NOT own the roads. The roads are public ways, which means we all own them and all have a right to use them.

Shorty Dawkins

Porcupine_in_MA

Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 03, 2009, 03:20 AM NHFT
by use of force .... I don't think of them as owning them
Quote from: Shorty Dawkins on March 03, 2009, 03:44 AM NHFT
Quote from: Porcupine The Prickly Polytheist on March 02, 2009, 11:49 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 02, 2009, 11:20 PM NHFT
that's the way they look at it ... as they own the roads and everything "operating" on them

They do own the roads as much as I hate the fact.

"They" do NOT own the roads. The roads are public ways, which means we all own them and all have a right to use them.

Shorty Dawkins

By use of force de facto they own the roads. If you don't do what they say and don't have your government papers then they throw you away for a long time if they want. So in reality they own the roads. Not that I like it, I hate it. Not that I agree with it in principle, but I'm talking about reality.

Porcupine_in_MA

Quote from: Shorty Dawkins on March 03, 2009, 03:44 AM NHFT
The roads are public ways, which means we all own them and all have a right to use them.

Shorty Dawkins

Tell a cop that you have a right to use the road next time you are pulled over for exercising your "right". It sure isn't a right if you have to have a stupid plastic card in order to be exercising that "right" doesn't it? It seems much more like a privilege to me.

FreelanceFreedomFighter

Quote from: Porcupine The Prickly Polytheist on March 04, 2009, 06:03 PM NHFT
Quote from: Shorty Dawkins on March 03, 2009, 03:44 AM NHFT
The roads are public ways, which means we all own them and all have a right to use them.

Shorty Dawkins

Tell a cop that you have a right to use the road next time you are pulled over for exercising your "right". It sure isn't a right if you have to have a stupid plastic card in order to be exercising that "right" doesn't it? It seems much more like a privilege to me.

From a strictly "legal" standpoint, words have meanings and those meanings are often not what one would expect from common usage. There are those who believe and have shown through historical legal research that the term's "Driver", "Operator", "Motor Vehicle", (and some others) ALL refer to commercial enterprises. In other words, a private citizen who is not operating a vehicle for hire does not fall under the licensing statutes. As with so many of the Government's corruption of the laws, this has been lost over time. Personally, I have their piece of plastic whether I agree with it or not isn't the issue for me... I have other "fish to fry". However, I know a few folks who believe in their Constitutional Right to Travel Freely and proceed accordingly... and one friend who has a Commercial Operator's License because he does, in fact, drive his vehicles for hire... he has said that is the only reason he registers them as well.

All this can be found online these days... Regardless, Just another data point to consider.


jzacker

Quote from: FreelanceFreedomFighter on March 07, 2009, 09:59 AM NHFT
Quote from: Porcupine The Prickly Polytheist on March 04, 2009, 06:03 PM NHFT
Quote from: Shorty Dawkins on March 03, 2009, 03:44 AM NHFT
The roads are public ways, which means we all own them and all have a right to use them.

Shorty Dawkins

Tell a cop that you have a right to use the road next time you are pulled over for exercising your "right". It sure isn't a right if you have to have a stupid plastic card in order to be exercising that "right" doesn't it? It seems much more like a privilege to me.

From a strictly "legal" standpoint, words have meanings and those meanings are often not what one would expect from common usage. There are those who believe and have shown through historical legal research that the term's "Driver", "Operator", "Motor Vehicle", (and some others) ALL refer to commercial enterprises. In other words, a private citizen who is not operating a vehicle for hire does not fall under the licensing statutes. As with so many of the Government's corruption of the laws, this has been lost over time. Personally, I have their piece of plastic whether I agree with it or not isn't the issue for me... I have other "fish to fry". However, I know a few folks who believe in their Constitutional Right to Travel Freely and proceed accordingly... and one friend who has a Commercial Operator's License because he does, in fact, drive his vehicles for hire... he has said that is the only reason he registers them as well.

All this can be found online these days... Regardless, Just another data point to consider.


If they can be found online, I suggest you actually read the statues.

Although "Driver" may, at one point, have referred to Commercial Drivers, the laws have been amended to expand that definition to non-commercial purposes.  Laws and statues can change over time through the legislative process.  Here are some definitions for you which you may want to learn.  I did not include all definitions, just the ones which would apply to a non-commercial driver.  Feel free to follow the links to get the entire definition.

From the NH Vehicle Code (http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/RSA/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-XXI-259.htm):
259:122 Vehicle. – ""Vehicle'' shall mean:
    I. Except as provided in paragraphs II and III, every mechanical device in, upon or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a way, excepting devices used exclusively upon stationary rails or tracks;
259:60 Motor Vehicle. – ""Motor vehicle'' shall mean:
    I. Except where otherwise specified in this title, any self-propelled vehicle not operated exclusively on stationary tracks, including ski area vehicles;     
259:25 Driver. – ""Driver'' shall mean a person who drives or is in actual physical control of a motor vehicle as defined in RSA 259:60 or an OHRV or snowmobile.

Misquoting the laws and statues doesn't seem like a useful tactic, and it won't win you any points in court.  If you disagree with the law, that's another story.  Knowing your enemy is the first step to defeating him (or her).  Know the law, then fight it.

P.S. Gandhi was a lawyer, I bet he read all their statues before telling the British to sod off.

Porcupine_in_MA

Quote from: FreelanceFreedomFighter on March 07, 2009, 09:59 AM NHFT
From a strictly "legal" standpoint, words have meanings and those meanings are often not what one would expect from common usage. There are those who believe and have shown through historical legal research that the term's "Driver", "Operator", "Motor Vehicle", (and some others) ALL refer to commercial enterprises. In other words, a private citizen who is not operating a vehicle for hire does not fall under the licensing statutes. As with so many of the Government's corruption of the laws, this has been lost over time. Personally, I have their piece of plastic whether I agree with it or not isn't the issue for me... I have other "fish to fry". However, I know a few folks who believe in their Constitutional Right to Travel Freely and proceed accordingly... and one friend who has a Commercial Operator's License because he does, in fact, drive his vehicles for hire... he has said that is the only reason he registers them as well.

All this can be found online these days... Regardless, Just another data point to consider.

Again, who cares about all the "strictly legal standpoints" when you get pulled over and you get thrown in jail if you don't have your government permission to be operating your vehicle on their roads? Look, you and I love freedom and want to fight for it, but let's be honest, the gang that is called "government" is the group of individuals that own the roads.
Same thing with a house you "own". If you have to pay someone else to live there (property taxes, don't pay after awhile you get booted) and get permission to do certain things with said house (building permits) than how can you claim ownership of this house? You can't.

Russell Kanning

why keep repeating the government's point of view ... you are reinforcing the thugs position
why not focus on the reality you want to live in?