Brian Travis invaded by bureaucrats

[Dave Ridley]

ok i've emailed the vet now

[Dave Ridley]

i like coffee's ideas below

Personally I think send anon text messages to his phone may aggravate the man but is it the shortest path to the best possible outcome? If the goal is just to mess with him then yes. I'd rather see us unify to 1. expose him to the public 2. get the horses back as soon as possible.

I just left a message on his business line requesting a callback. I don't anticipate one but worth a shot.

BTW Velma (who's too cheeken to post herself) is a former horse owner. She asks what is the procedure for going over Sprowl's head. Maybe that would be a good tool for us to get behind as a group.

[Kat Kanning]

Overview of contact info for the perpetrators:

Candia PD:
Michael McGillen, chief.
603-483-2318
74 High Street
Candia, NH

Steven Sprowl, Manager, Field Services Division
Office: 603-772-2921 ext. 111
cell: 603-674-9836
104 Portsmouth Ave
Stratham, NH

http://www.deerfieldvetclinic.com/veterinary-staff.htm
Dr. George
Deerfield Veterinary Clinic
150 South Rd.
Deerfield, NH 03037
(603) 463-7775

[KBCraig]

EquineSite.com discussion. I wonder how long before this "controversial topic" is wiped.
http://discus.equinesite.net/discus/messages/5/19055.html?1236698927

They're quick to take up torches and pitchforks. Against the Travis family, that is.

Buncha moralists who would happily participate in such organized horse theft.

[KBCraig]

Headline: "NHSPCA needs help with horses".

Here's a clue: you'd have more shelter room if you'd stop stealing horses!

[Dave Ridley]

Requesting permission to visit the seized Candia horses?

From:    Dave Ridley
Sent:    Tue 3/10/09 2:12 PM
To:    info at ... nhspca.org

Hi guys: 

Dave Ridley here from RidleyReport.com - a sort of poor man's TV station based in Manchester.  I was wondering if I or one of my other videographers could come videotape images of the horses you confiscated at Candia yesterday.   I'd also welcome any comment from your organization regarding the seizure...

Full disclosure...this is a libertarian broadcast so we could disagree on some things, but you will receive a fair airing of any views you may have.

[bile]

Ian... my point WRT the Sprowl is that he isn't the thug. He's just a jerk. The cops are the thugs. Flooding his cell phone with sms msgs with the explicit intent to run up his phone bill and aggravate him is not constructive. The liberty movement requires that the rest of them understand that freedom is better. We have to convince them not to aggress. At least against us. You can't do that by being vindictive. By going to people's homes and protesting. The public will just recoil and make all our lives and goals harder. Just take a look at the equinesite.net thread. "They" are already against the Travis family as I said they would be. The evidence has not been properly gathered and presented so they will all jump to the conclusion that Brian was abusing the horses and bitching about loosing them.

I never said stay quiet. I said don't make it personal. Don't be doing things that could make you look the aggressor. Be the victim. Sprowl is in much the same role as Mikaela and during your incident I don't recall you ever egging on people personally harass her. Why should this guy be different? He fucked up. Let the world know it. Ostracism is a public matter. Build a case that the guy can't be trusted and let the evidence convince people that the wrong doers are Sprowl and the police and not the Travis family. Trying to jam a gun in his hand so he notices it is almost always going to fail to get you what you want. Acting emotionally to an emotional situation will get us nowhere.

[Pat McCotter]

bile...Steve Sprowl wants NH to have SPCA Officers with arrest powers as there are in many states

Here is an example.
http://www.nh.gov/humane/documents/080327min.pdf
.

[Jim Johnson]

The guy in the suit and the gray stupid hat is the Prosecutor from Charlie and Jesse's hat trials.

[bile]

bile...Steve Sprowl wants NH to have SPCA Officers with arrest powers as there are in many states

Here is an example.
http://www.nh.gov/humane/documents/080327min.pdf
.

He's a wannabe thug. More evidence against him.

I never said he wasn't an ass. Just that we shouldn't steep to his level... or appear to.

[Kat Kanning]

The guy in the suit and the gray stupid hat is the Prosecutor from Charlie and Jesse's hat trials.

Lt. Reams?

[Silent_Bob]

bile...Steve Sprowl wants NH to have SPCA Officers with arrest powers as there are in many states

Here is an example.
http://www.nh.gov/humane/documents/080327min.pdf

http://www.state.nj.us/sci/pdf/spcapress.pdf


New Jersey
State Commission of Investigation
April 25, 2001
Contact: Lee Seglem, SCI
For immediate release
609-292-6767
SCI ISSUES REPORT ON SPCA
ABUSES
TRENTON – The State Commission of Investigation today released
the report of an investigation into widespread abuse and malfeasance by
elements of the Societies for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA)
in New Jersey.
The Commission found that SPCAs at both the state and county levels
have been subverted to the point where, in many instances, they are
incapable of fulfilling their primary statutory mission – the effective and
reliable enforcement of animal cruelty laws.
Page 2
2
"The issue is no longer whether or how to fix this errant group of self-
appointed, self-directed and uncontrolled entities, but whether to eliminate
the archaic system entirely," the report states. "The Commission concludes
that the time has come to repeal the government authority vested in the
SPCAs and place the function of enforcing the cruelty laws within the
government's stratified hierarchy of law enforcement."
Among the Commission's key findings:
• SPCA officials diverted substantial funds and property meant for
animal welfare for personal use.
• Monetary bequests left by deceased individuals to benefit animals
were used instead to pay for firearms, ammunition, vehicles and
other items unrelated to animal welfare.
• County SPCA organizations, some of which operate in
paramilitary fashion, have become havens for gun-carrying
"wannabe" police officers motivated by personal gain. These
individuals operate without proper training or adequate oversight.
• Conditions at an animal shelter administered by the Hudson
County SPCA were found to be deplorable. While shelter officials
skimmed patron fees and sold dog food for personal profit, animals
languished in overcrowded, poorly ventilated enclosures without
adequate food, water or veterinary care.
Page 3
3
• The state and local system of shelter inspections was found to be
inadequate and replete with weaknesses, including lax
enforcement, lack of follow-up inspections and wide variations in
the manner in which conditions are reported.
The report contains a series of recommendations for reforms related to
the system under which SPCAs and animal shelters currently operate.
The Commission referred the findings of its investigation to the
following government agencies for whatever action they deem appropriate:
the Office of the New Jersey Attorney General, Division of Criminal Justice
and Division of Consumer Affairs; the U.S. Internal Revenue Service; the
New Jersey Division of Taxation; the New Jersey Division of Purchase and
Property; and various state regulatory boards.

[Dave Ridley]

one thing we should keep in mind... innocent until proven guilty applies not just to the travis family but to all the govt. workers and private individuals on the scene.   Obviously we know some of the people in the video are guilty of being on the property without the approval of the owners, and we know what some of them have done in the past because of video evidence.  However there is a lot we dont' know or can't confirm yet. 

[Dave Ridley]

i've never seen any of the travis horses

i'd like to request if anyone has any pics of the animals taken during the month or so before they were seized...send em my way

it would have helped brian make his case of no animal abuse...had he videotaped the animals close up during the raid and shown off their claimed high level of health... assuming that were practical.

[cynthia]

I called the spca; there is an extension, maybe #4 or #5, that is for reporting stolen animals.. perfect! , I thought, and report the theft of horses in Candia by Steve Sprowl.

I also noticed that they don't seem to be answering their phones, a few of the extensions I tried, which means it is either a shoestring operation, or they are not too enthused about the nature of the calls they have been receiving.