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9-11 was an inside job

Started by Kat Kanning, September 06, 2005, 04:45 PM NHFT

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UOGSammich

Quote from: jaqeboy on August 10, 2009, 01:58 PM NHFT
New Ground Zero Photos from FEMA Photographer Kurt Sonnenfeld

FEMA photographer Kurt Sonnenfeld (recently interviewed by Voltairenet) has released a new set of World Trade Center disaster site images. Some were previously available, but the majority are new and high quality.

Downloading the whole imageset from bittorrent now, thank you!

jaqeboy

good to grab them while you can!

Have you checked out the local video screening meetup, http://mv911t.org?

UOGSammich

Yes I checked it out, I am still living in Alabama at the time though. Probably until I complete my college education, but thank you. :D

Little Owl

QuoteProbably until I complete my college education, but thank you.

If you still believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories, you might want to hit the books a little harder until you graduate.

Can this thread (like the Ed & Elaine Brown thread) PLEASE DIE!?!?

Keyser Soce

Quote from: Little Owl on August 10, 2009, 07:59 PM NHFT
QuoteProbably until I complete my college education, but thank you.

If you still believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories, you might want to hit the books a little harder until you graduate.

Can this thread (like the Ed & Elaine Brown thread) PLEASE DIE!?!?

If you still believe the official line, there's probably not much hope for you.

MTPorcupine3

Quote from: Little Owl on August 10, 2009, 07:59 PM NHFT
QuoteProbably until I complete my college education, but thank you.

If you still believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories, you might want to hit the books a little harder until you graduate.

Can this thread (like the Ed & Elaine Brown thread) PLEASE DIE!?!?

Can you please define the term 'conspiracy theory'? As far as I can tell, it's nothing more than a buzzword concocted by the propagandists to discredit anyone who dares think rather than swallow the 'official story'.

EthanLeeVita

Perhaps instead of focusing on this issue, we focus on the blowback aspect. Its easier for a non-technical person to discuss with some knowledge. Frankly, I don't involve myself in these things anymore because there's just too much to look into and I'm already swamped with reading material. Its best, occasionally, to just admit you are ignorant of a subject and leave it at that.

It should also be noted that conspiracy theories can't be rejected or accepted by virtue of being a conspiracy theory. Each one has to be investigated individually. To do otherwise, is a logical fallacy.

jaqeboy

Here's an interesting article by a local ally regarding the militarization of space aspect of 9/11 politics:

Space for Peace and September 11
A flyby perspective
By Jonathan Mark

One of the stranger events that happened near the end of the 20th Century was when NASA conducted two "flybys" around Venus on a journey towards Saturn. A flyby is a maneuver in frictionless space using gravity from a planet for a slingshot-acceleration effect. The strange part regarding "Cassini" was that it had 72.3 pounds of radioactive plutonium on board, and was scheduled for an Earth-flyby on August 17/18, 1999, while traveling at around 10 miles per second. Fortunately there was no inadvertent collision with Earth's atmosphere, but why would NASA risk life on Earth while exploring the solar system?

Karl Grossman, author of "The Wrong Stuff: The US Space Program's Nuclear Threat To Our Planet," answered my question. He pointed to the U.S. Air Force report, "New World Vistas: Air and Space Power for The 2lst Century" where it stated "In the next two decades, new technologies will allow the fielding of space-based weapons of devastating effectiveness to be used to deliver energy and mass as force projection in tactical and strategic conflict.
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Within months after 9/11 crimes, with Congress in his palm, Bush terminated the ABM Treaty.
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Word doc of entire article here: http://files.meetup.com/300645/Space%20for%20Peace%20and%20September%2011.doc

jaqeboy

Quote from: EthanLeeVita on August 11, 2009, 03:45 AM NHFT
...It should also be noted that conspiracy theories can't be rejected or accepted by virtue of being a conspiracy theory. Each one has to be investigated individually. To do otherwise, is a logical fallacy.

An interesting point and maybe a clarification regarding the 9/11 Truth movement is in order.
Many have rejected the Official Conspiracy Theory about the events of September 11, 2001 (and the anthrax letters scare following) and suspect something other than the official conspiracy theory has been afoot. The 9/11 Truth movement is, then, a conspiracy theory de-bunking movement.

Independent investigators, whistle-blowers, scientists and news-followers piece together scraps of observations and evidence and begin to detect a pattern that is far different than the official conspiracy theory. Residents of New York City, for example, are now rallying to establish a city-based criminal investigative commission to investigate the crime (which has not been done to date by NYC authorities, since the feds swooped down and "established what happened" in 48 hours time with the pretty full statement of the Official Conspiracy Theory). The designers of the NYC petition for an investigative commission have tried to create a commission that could not be subverted by agenda-driven establishment hacks and to enlist people power to create the political pressure to make it succeed. (See other thread on the NYC 9/11 petition)

jaqeboy

Tuesday, September 1, 2009
Merrimack Valley 911 Truth (http://mv911t.org) presents:

This month in Nashua:
The Obama Deception, a film by Alex Jones



Tyrrany gets a facelift!

The Obama Deception is a hard-hitting film that completely destroys the myth that Barack Obama is working for the best interests of the American people.

The Obama phenomenon is a hoax carefully crafted by the captains of the New World Order. He is being pushed as savior in an attempt to con the American people into accepting global slavery.

We have reached a critical juncture in the New World Order's plans. It's not about Left or Right: it's about a One World Government. The international banks plan to loot the people of the United States and turn them into slaves on a Global Plantation.

Covered in this film: who Obama works for, what lies he has told, and his real agenda. If you want to know the facts and cut through all the hype, this is the film for you.

Watch the Obama Deception and learn how:

- Obama is continuing the process of transforming America into something that resembles Nazi Germany, with forced National Service, domestic civilian spies, warrantless wiretaps, the destruction of the Second Amendment, FEMA camps and Martial Law.

- Obama's handlers are openly announcing the creation of a new Bank of the World that will dominate every nation on earth through carbon taxes and military force.

- International bankers purposefully engineered the worldwide financial meltdown to bankrupt the nations of the planet and bring in World Government.

- Obama plans to loot the middle class, destroy pensions and federalize the states so that the population is completely dependent on the Central Government.

- The Elite are using Obama to pacify the public so they can usher in the North American Union by stealth, launch a new Cold War and continue the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The information contained in this film is vital to the future of the Republic and to freedom worldwide. President Barack Obama is only the tool of a larger agenda. Until all are made aware, humanity will remain captive to the masters of the New World Order.

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Short subjects - bring what you think others should see - we'll see what shorts we have time to view. We also have the capability to show You Tube and Google videos, so bring your links.

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We have screenings every Tuesday somewhere in the Merrimack Valley: 1st Tuesday-Nashua; 2nd Tuesday-Manchester; 3rd Tuesday-Concord; 4th Tuesdays are now OPEN. If there's a 5th Tuesday in a month, we'll have a special organizing meeting.

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Location: Balanced Health Center, 9 Simon Street, Nashua, map here.
Please arrive by 7:00 PM, since this meeting is on a tight schedule. We'll start a brief business meeting at 7 and the video will begin promptly at 7:30.

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Please bring healthy snacks and/or drinks for sharing, since some may have come to our meeting directly from work.

Contributing a box of your favorite tea is always a good idea to build an inventory of available beverages at Balanced Health!

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Parking is in the lot in right in front of the building and Balanced Health is the last office bay on the right. You'll see the Sunset Restaurant at the far left end.

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Newspaper - For an interesting paper which covers 9/11 Truth issues and other topics of concern, visit the Rock Creek Free Press out of Washington, D.C. (http://rockcreekfreepress.com) and see our meetup page for others (http://9-11.meetup.com/307/pages/Newspapers_and_Journals/).

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We have set up a "carpooling group" online at eRideShare.com. Ride-sharing arrangements can now be made by clicking on the link above (http://mv911t.erideshare.com) to go to the online ridesharing group. Our group nickname is "mv911t" and our password is "truth". You can post if you are driving to one of our events and have extra seats - if you're looking for a ride to an event just logon and post that you're seeking a ride. ( Donations to the driver for gas are always appreciated.)

jaqeboy

Charlie Sheen spends...

Twenty Minutes With The President

Tuesday, September 8, 2009

I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with our 44th President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, while he was out promoting his health care reform initiative. I requested 30 minutes given the scope and detail of my inquiry; they said I could have 20. Twenty minutes, 1200 seconds, not a lot of time to question the President about one of the most important events in our nation's history. The following is a transcript of our remarkable discussion.
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Kat Kanning

QuoteCharlie Sheen – I really wish that were the case, sir. Are you aware, Mr. President, of the recent stunning revelations that sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack?

jaqeboy

#1767
Good article about Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth in a Silicon Valley paper, MetroActive:

Explosive Theory

Eight years after 9/11, a growing organization of building trades professionals suspect that there was more to the event than the government will admit

By Jay Levin and Tom McKenzie

JUST A FEW YEARS ago Ed Munyak, a fire protection engineer for the city of San Jose, seemed like a lonely, out-there figure, a sometimes-target because of his outspoken position on the events of Sept. 11, 2001. These days, hundreds of other building trade professionals have joined him in challenging the official narrative about the collapse of three buildings at New York's World Trade Center (WTC) on that fateful, traumatic day.

Munyak, of Los Altos Hills, is a mechanical and fire engineer whose job is to review building plans to ensure they comply with the California Building and Fire Code. In 2007, after speaking out on his own for a few years, Munyak signed on with a then-fledging organization called Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth (AE911 Truth), founded by Bay Area architect Richard Gage.

Today, far from being isolated, Munyak now counts as allies 804 professional architects and building engineers from around the country. Collectively, they have joined Munyak's call for an independent technical investigation of the causes of the WTC buildings collapse. In doing so, they reject the federal government's conclusions that two airplanes alone brought the buildings down—without the aid of pre-planted explosives.
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jaqeboy

Here's a key technical section from the article about the architect/engineer's analysis:

QuoteLike Munyak, Gage cites the fact that steel framing serves as a heat conductor, actually cooling fires and equalizing the burden on any one steel section. "The steel doesn't get to the temperature that would cause it to weaken," he says. "No steel-framed high rise has ever collapsed due to fire, and we have almost 100 examples."

As for NIST's theory that once the towers' impact-area beams gave way, the mass above them would rapidly crush the lower stories, Gage argues that the premise ignores the laws of physics.

"No force can crush that kind of a structure at near freefall speed. It's ludicrous," he says. "Not only that, the videos show that 95 percent of the south tower is being blown outside, indicating explosions. And the top of the north tower is being reduced from 15 stories to seven stories before it even starts to drop. Half of its mass is destroyed in the first two seconds.

"The remaining mass cannot fall at near freefall speed and crush 80,000 tons of steel and pulverize to powder 90,000 tons of concrete and create tons of molten metal by some unknowable process."

littlehawk

Quote from: Little Owl on August 10, 2009, 07:59 PM NHFT
QuoteProbably until I complete my college education, but thank you.

If you still believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories, you might want to hit the books a little harder until you graduate.

Can this thread (like the Ed & Elaine Brown thread) PLEASE DIE!?!?

Hmm. After reading several of your comments here on the forum, your position is quite clear now. I will skip over your posts from now on. Thank you, Owl O'Reilly.

Littlehawk