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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #180 on: December 05, 2005, 09:00 PM NHFT »

Police find explosives in world trade center:

Police find explosives Reporter says police found "suspicious device" in world trade center:

Do you know how many "suspicious devices" get blown up every year, which turn out to be completely benign? (Me either, but a helluva lot more than actual bombs!)
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #181 on: December 07, 2005, 08:47 PM NHFT »

The 9-11 commission .... the real slap in the face to victims.


"Kristen Breitweiser, whose husband, Ronald, was killed at the World Trade Center, said the interviews underscore a conflict-of-interest problem at the commission and cast serious doubts on the panel's credibility.

"We've had it," said Breitweiser, who met with several commission leaders last week. "It is such a slap in the face of the families of victims. They are dishonoring the dead with their irresponsible behavior." "

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-20-04/discussion.cgi.67.html
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #182 on: December 07, 2005, 10:45 PM NHFT »

Did anyone notice the C-130 that crashed into an apartment highrise in Iran? It didn't collapse, though it burned extensively. Hmmm....
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #183 on: December 07, 2005, 10:55 PM NHFT »

The WTC buildings had slightly more weight bearing down upon the lower levels that caused it to collapse.

I would SO love to be proven wrong if a massive cover-up is blown wide open and it results in the end of the US government.  But I very highly doubt I will be proven wrong.
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #184 on: December 08, 2005, 06:05 AM NHFT »

Police find explosives Reporter says police found "suspicious device" in world trade center:

Do you know how many "suspicious devices" get blown up every year, which turn out to be completely benign? (Me either, but a helluva lot more than actual bombs!)

And how many of those were found in buildings that blew up in the next hour?
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #185 on: December 08, 2005, 12:13 PM NHFT »

Police find explosives Reporter says police found "suspicious device" in world trade center:

Do you know how many "suspicious devices" get blown up every year, which turn out to be completely benign? (Me either, but a helluva lot more than actual bombs!)

And how many of those were found in buildings that blew up in the next hour?

In your case, they were found after the attack. Everything was suspcious at that point.

Look at the Miami airplane incident yesterday: the crazy guy was already dead, no bombs were found... but three pieces of luggage were still blown up as "suspicious".

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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #186 on: December 08, 2005, 12:55 PM NHFT »

Look at the Miami airplane incident yesterday: the crazy guy was already dead, no bombs were found... but three pieces of luggage were still blown up as "suspicious".

I bet they found traces of explosives in the bags... after they blew them up with explosives.  ;D
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #187 on: December 08, 2005, 11:01 PM NHFT »

I would SO love to be proven wrong if a massive cover-up is blown wide open and it results in the end of the US government.  But I very highly doubt I will be proven wrong.
To this day, there's still no proof that Hitler burned down the Reichstag, even though many analysts agree that he was behind it.  That's likely how we'll see this crisis in 60 years.
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #188 on: January 18, 2006, 09:54 PM NHFT »

This lady's websites are interesting.


"The American public have not heard who is the real culprit behind 9/11"
Most Gagged Whistleblower in US history Sibel Edmonds joins Alex Jones on air, says there are strong criminal elements within all three branches of Government.

Prisonplanet | January 19 2006

Last Tuesday nationally syndicated radio host Alex Jones was joined on air by FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds for an in depth interview

Edmonds was hired shortly after Sept. 11 to translate intelligence gathered over the previous year related to the 9/11 attacks. She says the FBI had information that an attack using airplanes was being planned before Sept. 11 and calls Condoleezza Rice's claim the White House had no specific information on a domestic threat or one involving planes "an outrageous lie."

Although Edmonds is officially barred from revealing the specifics of what she found out, she has revealed that she was hired to find and cover up the prior knowledge intercepts. She refused to go along with the cover up. Of course only small criminal elements of the government were involved on 9/11, the majority of those working for the FBI, the CIA and the NSA are good people who would have picked up on the pre-intelligence.

Edmonds has also previously gone on record with revelations of government run drug shipping and other organized crime operations.

Firstly Edmonds was keen to stress that information relating to pre 9/11 terrorist activity was intentionally blocked by elements of the intelligence agencies.

"I started reporting these cases together with documents and other witnesses in the department, within two months after I started working for the bureau, around November/December 2001. I went to my superiors, to their superiors and even all the way to the top of the chin, to Director Mueller himself within the FBI headquarters. Initially they were asking me not to push through this and in return they offered to give me a raise... When I did not continue reporting these issues, in about February 2002, they accused me of reporting these issues to the Congress via email."

At this time Sibel was not attempting to do this, she was attempting to raise the issues internally. The FBI then sent several agents to her house and confiscated her home computer and took it apart to check exactly who Edmonds had ben contacting.

They then forced her to take a polygraph test to determine whether she had been speaking to anybody outside the agency. This was the last straw for edmonds who decide it was time to blow the case wide open and go to Congress with her vital information.

"So I went to these people within the Senate Judiciary Committee, I briefed their staff who had clearance, I went inside the secured facility and gave them documents, and about two weeks after that I was terminated without any reason being cited, in fact the letter I received from the Department of Justice said that 'your contract is being terminated as of this date purely for the convenience of the Government."

Ms Edmonds went on to talk about the specifics of what elements of the Government are now doing and covering up.

Starting with the revelation that forces inside the Congress and the FBI confirmed that House Speaker Dennis Hastert was illegally receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash bribes from foreign lobbying organizations in exchange for political favors.

Other Senators and Congressmen have also been exposed in the activity of taking illegal cash.

She then went on to talk about former Attorney General John Ashcroft who in an unprecedented move officially gagged the Congress over her case in order to "protect certain diplomatic relations of the United States and to protect sensitive US-foreign business relations."

Ashcroft did not elaborate at all and many have come forward to suggest that the gagging order was wholly illegal.

Edmonds then made an analogy, as she often does when she cannot reveal specific facts. She suggested that there could be a so called "war on drugs" but it is an unwritten rule that you only go after the lower end drug dealers and leave alone the middle men and those at the top because the government can directly profit from their activity. This is how things were handled with terrorism in the lead up to 9/11.

"Intentionally, I and I want to underline this, intentionally they are not going after the middlemen and the people at the top. So to this day the American public have not heard who is the real culprit behind 9/11. There is money laundering, and certain narcotic and weapons procurements involved."

Ms Edmonds went on to reveal that the criminal elements are active within all three branches of Government. Plus there are those who are working outside government towards the same agenda. She suggests that we should look towards lobbying groups who are registering as agents of foreign governments, such as International Advisors Inc, the lobbying company set up by arch Neo-Con Richard Perle, which is registered with the State Department as "agents of Turkey."

These groups, with weighty influences upon the foreign policy of the US Government, some, including Perle, Pentagon architects of the Iraq war, are operating with elements of the Government in a nexus like fashion, moving around vast amounts of money and arms and profiteering from directing world events.

Edmonds suggested that this information would become more widespread should more people demand that the media cover these issues. There are simply too many people who are not concerned by such revelations or who simply take no notice.

"Our founders repeatedly stressed eternal vigilance because we can't say we have separation of powers, we have our Constitution and our Bill of Rights, they're going to take care of themselves and they are going to last, no, it does take eternal vigilance." Edmonds commented.

Prisonplanet.tv subscribers watch this space for the full exclusive audio interview.

Visit Sibel Edmonds' websites at http://www.nswbc.org and http://www.justacitizen.com/
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #189 on: January 18, 2006, 10:17 PM NHFT »

This would be one of the non-existant whistleblowers.

Why can't she reveal certain things? Wasn't she fired?
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #190 on: January 18, 2006, 11:27 PM NHFT »

I believe that whistleblowers get squashed (I work for DoJ, remember?)

But I don't believe that this lady was hired from the street to find and hide pre-9/11 intelligence, especially since she seems to have no bent towards hiding stuff. Jones comments on how it's only a small, secretive, compartmentalized group that had access. But less than two months after being hired, she's gained access to very high-level SCI and taken it to the Director? Hogwash!

It's very possible that she saw a document that she thought was significant, and ran it up the chain of command, and then went to Congress with it. That doesn't mean it actually was significant, especially since she "can't reveal" what it was.

As for being fired, she was a probationary employee, meaning she was employed at will. With two months in the FBI, she wasn't even trusted with the key to the break room, much less conspiracy-busting classified data. Having already shown that she would disclose classified information, I'm not at all surprised that she was fired. That doesn't mean she had uncovered The Truth.

This is one of the things I don't like about Alex Jones: he gives full credence to incredible sources, and holds them up to be something much more than they really are. This leaves people even less likely to believe him if a valid story comes along.

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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #191 on: January 19, 2006, 07:59 AM NHFT »

Yes, she was fired.
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« Reply #192 on: January 20, 2006, 10:29 PM NHFT »

The plot thickens!

When researching this topic, I came across this site: http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/buffett.html

So where was Warren Buffett the morning of 9/11 and what was he doing?

Mr. Buffett was reportedly at his home in Omaha, Nebraska watching TV when he heard about the terrorist attacks.  He was getting ready to host his "last annual golf charity event" which just happened to be at the U.S. Strategic Command headquarters located at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha.  Offutt AFB is, coincidentally, where President G. W. Bush flew to on Air Force One later in the day for "safety".   This early golf charity event hosted by Mr. Buffett  was to include celebrities, professional athletes, and a small group of business leaders in which one of these business leaders became a very lucky person.

This very lucky person was Ann Tatlock, the CEO of Fiduciary Trust Co. International.  Now what made Mrs. Tatlock such a lucky person for being invited to this charity event that morning?  Mrs. Tatlock not only works in the World Trade Center, but her offices were right where Flight 175 crashed into the WTC 2. 
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #193 on: January 21, 2006, 10:50 AM NHFT »

Why would Warren Buffett want to lose $3,000,000,000 in one day? He had to pay out 10% of the damages at the WTC.
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Re: 9-11 was an inside job
« Reply #194 on: January 28, 2006, 06:41 AM NHFT »

"We believe that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11," the group says in a statement released Friday announcing its formation. "We believe these events may have been orchestrated by the administration in order to manipulate the American people into supporting policies at home and abroad."
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635179751,00.html
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