9-11 was an inside job

[Atlas]

I have friends who were either in the WTC, across the street, or in Jersey City who would confirm the fact that two airliners hit the towers. These stupid conspiracy theories really bring your credibility into question Kat. 

But, no plane hit Building #7. Plenty of eyewitnesses heard explosions going off as the towers came down. Planes hitting the Towers only serves as the cover story. According to the above Russo story, I would say that this should serve as the straw that broke the camel's back. This shows the magnitude of the powers of the banking elite. In order for liberty to ever thrive, these people need to be exposed and stopped. Finally, these people should be relinquished of control over our lives.

[KBCraig]

But, no plane hit Building #7.

The falling towers did, though.

Kevin

[Russell Kanning]

I have friends who were either in the WTC, across the street, or in Jersey City who would confirm the fact that two airliners hit the towers. These stupid conspiracy theories really bring your credibility into question Kat. 

When have you heard Kat say that she doesn't think 2 planes hit the towers?
Do you believe the government's version of what happened?

[Kat Kanning]

Can you explain to me why I need credibility with SeanS?  I don't care.

[SeanSchade]

Then there's the fact that there's no such thing as an "expert marksman" badge, and where "expert" was pasted in, there's still a remnant of the top of a slash.

The link won't open up for me so I don't know the context that this statement was made in. But, if you're talking about military service there most certainly is such a thing as an "expert marksman" badge in the Army. I qualified for it every time while in the service.

[JonM]

I recall the Air Force had an expert marksman ribbon.

I don't see anything for the army here:
http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/rackbuilder/armyribs.php

But they do have the air force one here:
http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/rackbuilder/airforceribs.php

[SeanSchade]

I recall the Air Force had an expert marksman ribbon.

I don't see anything for the army here:
http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/rackbuilder/armyribs.php

But they do have the air force one here:
http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/rackbuilder/airforceribs.php

It's not a ribbon, but a badge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_Qualification_Badge

[JonM]

zoomies like ribbons!

[KBCraig]

Then there's the fact that there's no such thing as an "expert marksman" badge, and where "expert" was pasted in, there's still a remnant of the top of a slash.

The link won't open up for me so I don't know the context that this statement was made in. But, if you're talking about military service there most certainly is such a thing as an "expert marksman" badge in the Army. I qualified for it every time while in the service.

No, you didn't.

There are three weapons qualification badges: "marksman", "sharpshooter", and "expert". "Expert marksman" is a contradiction, an oxymoron, a conflation of the highest and lowest rankings of shooting proficiency.

Kevin

[SeanSchade]

OK, you got me...I only qualified "Expert" then. I misread marksman for marksmanship. 

[Atlas]

But, no plane hit Building #7.

The falling towers did, though.

Kevin

Planes hitting the towers were needed to cover the reality of the situation. Just like at the OKC bombing, the ampho bomb in the truck out front was needed to cover the shake charges that were placed in the building itself.

[SeanSchade]

the shake charges that were placed in the building itself.

Shape Charges...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_charge

More paranoid hogwash...

[Russell Kanning]

Tolstoy use to laugh about military men and their scraps of ribbon.

[lildog]

BUSH: So, what's the plan again?

CHENEY: Well, we need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. So what we've decided to do is crash a whole bunch of remote-controlled planes into Wall Street and the Pentagon, say they're real hijacked commercial planes, and blame it on the towelheads; then we'll just blow up the buildings ourselves to make sure they actually fall down.

RUMSFELD: Right! And we'll make sure that some of the hijackers are agents of Saddam Hussein! That way we'll have no problem getting the public to buy the invasion.

CHENEY: No, Dick, we won't.

RUMSFELD: We won't?

CHENEY: No, that's too obvious. We'll make the hijackers Al Qaeda and then just imply a connection to Iraq.

RUMSFELD: But if we're just making up the whole thing, why not just put Saddam's fingerprints on the attack?

CHENEY: (sighing) It just has to be this way, Dick. Ups the ante, as it were. This way, we're not insulated if things go wrong in Iraq. Gives us incentive to get the invasion right the first time around.

BUSH: I'm a total idiot who can barely read, so I'll buy that. But I've got a question. Why do we need to crash planes into the Towers at all? Since everyone knows terrorists already tried to blow up that building complex from the ground up once, why don't we just blow it up like we plan to anyway, and blame the bombs on the terrorists?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, you don't understand. It's much better to sneak into the buildings ourselves in the days before the attacks, plant the bombs and then make it look like it was exploding planes that brought the buildings down. That way, we involve more people in the plot, stand a much greater chance of being exposed and needlessly complicate everything!

CHENEY: Of course, just toppling the Twin Towers will never be enough. No one would give us the war mandate we need if we just blow up the Towers. Clearly, we also need to shoot a missile at a small corner of the Pentagon to create a mightily underpublicized additional symbol of international terrorism -- and then, obviously, we need to fake a plane crash in the middle of fucking nowhere in rural Pennsylvania.

RUMSFELD: Yeah, it goes without saying that the level of public outrage will not be sufficient without that crash in the middle of fucking nowhere.

CHENEY: And the Pentagon crash -- we'll have to do it in broad daylight and say it was a plane, even though it'll really be a cruise missile.

BUSH: Wait, why do we have to use a missile?

CHENEY: Because it's much easier to shoot a missile and say it was a plane. It's not easy to steer a real passenger plane into the Pentagon. Planes are hard to come by.

BUSH: But aren't we using two planes for the Twin Towers?

CHENEY: Mr. President, you're missing the point. With the Pentagon, we use a missile, and say it was a plane.

BUSH: Right, but I'm saying, why don't we just use a plane and say it was a plane? We'll be doing that with the Twin Towers, right?

CHENEY: Right, but in this case, we use a missile. (Throws hands up in frustration) Don, can you help me out here?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, in Washington, we use a missile because it's sneakier that way. Using an actual plane would be too obvious, even though we'll be doing just that in New York.

BUSH: Oh, OK.

RUMSFELD: The other good thing about saying that it was a passenger jet is that that way, we have to invent a few hundred fictional victims and account for a nonexistent missing crew and plane. It's always better when you leave more cover story to invent, more legwork to do and more possible holes to investigate. Doubt, legwork and possible exposure -- you can't pull off any good conspiracy without them.

BUSH: You guys are brilliant! Because if there's one thing about Americans -- they won't let a president go to war without a damn good reason. How could we ever get the media, the corporate world and our military to endorse an invasion of a secular Iraqi state unless we faked an attack against New York at the hands of a bunch of Saudi religious radicals? Why, they'd never buy it. Look at how hard it was to get us into Vietnam, Iraq the last time, Kosovo?

CHENEY: Like pulling teeth!

RUMSFELD: Well, I'm sold on the idea. Let's call the Joint Chiefs, the FAA, the New York and Washington, D.C., fire departments, Rudy Giuliani, all three networks, the families of a thousand fictional airline victims, MI5, the FBI, FEMA, the NYPD, Larry Eagleburger, Osama bin Laden, Noam Chomsky and the fifty thousand other people we'll need to pull this off. There isn't a moment to lose!

BUSH: Don't forget to call all of those Wall Street hotshots who donated $100 million to our last campaign. They'll be thrilled to know that we'll be targeting them for execution as part of our thousand-tentacled modern-day bonehead Reichstag scheme! After all, if we're going to make martyrs -- why not make them out of our campaign paymasters? Shit, didn't the Merrill Lynch guys say they needed a refurbishing in their New York offices?

RUMSFELD: Oh, they'll get a refurbishing, all right. Just in time for the "Big Wedding"!

ALL THREE: (cackling) Mwah-hah-hah!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11818067/the_low_post_the_hopeless_stupidity_of_911_conspiracies/1

[JonM]

I liked South Park's 9-11 explanation better.