9-11 was an inside job

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Digging for truth is not an insult to victims.

Digging for truth, finding it and rejecting it, now that's an insult.

[Caleb]

I agree, Error. 

[KBCraig]

Thank you, Error. No wink.

Kevin

[Kat Kanning]

CENTCOM Sergeant Details Traitorous Stand Down Orders On 9/11
Military whistleblower comes forward with key information

Steve Watson / Infowars | September 26 2006

Alex Jones was joined on air yesterday by a former Sergeant in the United States Army named Lauro "LJ" Chavez. Chavez was stationed at MacDill AFB where he claims he witnessed unusual preparations for a potential airplane hitting the base on the morning of 9/11 and distinctly heard officers talking about a stand down. This has led him to go public in questioning the NORAD stand down and the demolition of the twin towers.

In a letter that first appeared on the 9/11 Veterans For Truth Website, Sergeant Lauro "LJ" Chavez responds to a Cincinnati Post hit piece article by outlining his own doubts about the official version of 9/11 and his personal experiences of the strange prelude to the events of that morning.

Despite early (and healthy) reactions claiming this may be a hoax designed to poison the well of the 9/11 truth movement, Sergeant Chavez has now provided us with evidence of his credentials, his honorable discharge documents showing the military installations he was located inside. The last station he held was inside United States Central Command in Tampa - the pdf can be viewed here.  http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/LChavez_214.pdf

Mr Chavez was quick to point out that he does not have all the answers, but does have what he feels is vital information regarding the events of 9/11:

''I'm in no way in a position to tell people that 'this is the official story so believe me', no, I want to give people the information so they can go away and look for themselves and formulate a logical decision with all the evidence." Chavez said.

Mr Chavez worked within CENTCOM, one of the five American regional unified commands consisting of Marines, Navy and air force officers. CENTCOM's area of jurisdiction is in the Middle East, East Africa and Central Asia. CENTCOM has been the main American presence in many military operations, including the Persian Gulf War, the United States war in Afghanistan, and the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Chavez was stationed at CENTCOM's headquarters at MacDill AFB, in Tampa, Florida. His commanding officer was Four Star General Tommy Franks.

Chavez worked in the J6 department that was in charge of all the computer systems, the network backbone of CENTCOM. Chavez ran a team of six soldiers on the helpdesk network side. He was personally responsible for the maintenance of commanding officers computers, including those of General Tommy Franks. He has letters of recommendation from Franks and even went to Franks' house to work on his computers.

Chavez described how the military has a ring of computer networks according to different security clearance levels. Chavez worked only with systems classified as top secret or higher.

On the morning before 9/11 Chavez was in the Secure Compartmented Information Facility, the secure bunker at the base of CENTCOM HQ which is populated by high ranking military intelligence personnel. This is a facility that requires a top secret gamma clearance. Inside are systems that can monitor weather systems and flight paths of all aircraft within the country.

That day he was involved with supporting computer equipment being used in the Vigilant Guardian exercise and another exercise based in Egypt. On this day Chavez got to see information that he wasn't supposed to see.

"I was working on psyops commander's computer and next to his PC was a top secret document that was open, his neglect was my ally, I was sitting there working on his computer and was waiting for some passes to download and I look over and I'm reading the document, and it's the off order for the exercise that they are participating in."

This raises major questions because normally wargames or exercises are not classified as top secret as it is a requirement to let some information be public, especially if the exercise is taking place in a populated area.

Chavez continued:

"So I'm reading this document and it's giving proposed situations for scenarios for this wargame the scenarios include a hijacked plane, most of them were hijacked planes, I saw one that was like a car bomb trying to blow up something, but one of them was a hijacked plane crashing into a nuclear power plant in California, the Sears Tower, the World Trade Center, The Pentagon obviously, the White House, our building was one of the targets as well."

Chavez went on to describe how CENTCOM HQ was being heavily fortified the day before 9/11 and access to the base was restricted to top secret personnel only. This ties in with a declaration of Martial Law by Jeb Bush two days previously throughout the entirety of Florida.

Chavez also described how during the exercises the aerospace grid with "enemy" blips on it has to be piped in to the air traffic controllers of all the airports in the affected area so they know there is a military exercise going on. This ties in with the released NORAD/NEADS and FAA tapes and accounts that are riddled with references to the drills and exercises taking place on 9/11.

Chavez described the plot as "genius" and stated:

"If you want to crash planes into a building, and you've got the aerospace grid at your beckoning call, so you put a bunch of blips on it so no one knows which ones are real and which ones are fake... All you have to do is have someone in charge of the computer systems to put the blips on the screen and then you can do whatever you want."

Chavez proceeded to detail the key discussions that he heard inside the bunker on the day of 9/11:

"I didn't get to see tower one hit, I was in there talking with individuals and i was tired, I'd been there since four in the morning. Then all of a sudden everybody started hustling and bustling. it was like NASA when Apollo 13 was about to crash, everybody running around, and then they put it on the big screen, CNN with the tower on fire.

Then we see the other plane come in and hit it and at that point everybody is standing up. The air force had commanders in contact with NORAD. The plane, or whatever, hit the Pentagon and then we were like 'Why aren't they scrambling jets?' We were asking, there was eight or nine people... Colonels and Lieutenant Colonels asking the Lieutenant Colonel in charge of the air force 'why isn't NORAD scrambling jets? and he said 'we received an order to stand down''. And that just perplexed everybody."

Mr Chavez did not know the Lieutenant Colonel and so does not know his name, yet if he can be identified, then we have uncovered a direct link to the stand down order. If that man or any others who were present at CENTCOM on 9/11 can be identified and made to testify under oath, then the whole cover operation could be blown. A real independent investigation would have secured this.

The entire riveting interview is freely available online at Prisonplanet.tv now. Please spread this information far and wide.
http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/260906chavez.mp3

Mr Chavez has since been informed that the computer company he now works for, as information security manager, has been receiving threatening phone calls demanding his dismissal. Mr Chavez is another example of someone who is bravely putting his career, reputation and life on the line to get the truth out about the 9/11 cover up.

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That was really interesting and useful, except for all the Alex Jones conspiracy type stuff, which really detracts from the sergeant's information.

[Caleb]

You keep moving the bar, error.  For years, we've been told "Stand down order?  There was no stand down order!"

Now, I suppose we're going to progress to, "Of course there was a stand down order.  But that doesn't prove the government was complicit!"

Caleb

[error]

Moving the bar? Hell, all I wanted was a clear account of what the guy was saying, and Alex Jones is no journalist.

As for the "stand down" order. What stand down order? He said he overheard something about an order to stand down. That says nothing about what the order was or what it applied to. So that's something you might want to look into.

And we all know the reason planes weren't scrambled is because (1) the FAA is a bunch of incompetent idiots (I've spent some time lately documenting this), and (2) there weren't very many to be had anyway (much better people than I have well documented this).

[Russell Kanning]

Moving the bar? Hell, all I wanted was a clear account of what the guy was saying, and Alex Jones is no journalist.

That is a reason I like him.

So should we fire the FAA and the military and start over again?

[Kat Kanning]

Alex Jones' Terror Storm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=alex+jones

[error]

No, we should fire the FAA and the military, and not start (a government) again.

[Michael Fisher]

Apparently, the conspiracy theorists might not be such nutcakes after all. *dodges everyone's fists* 

Blaise Pascal said, in his dying words now to be found in the book "Pens?es," that "pyrrhonien," or extreme skepticism, is one of a good scientist's three defining qualities. In other words, please excuse my extreme skepticism, and also, please realize that such a quality is not a vice.

Finally, please excuse my unusually extensive use of bold, but this is earth-shattering evidence in my view.


Woodward book portrays a White House in turmoil
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003282308_woodward30.html

...

Snow confirmed one detail in the book: Henry Kissinger has been advising Bush about Iraq. 

In an interview scheduled to air Sunday on "60 Minutes," Woodward says Kissinger, who served in the Nixon and Ford administrations, has been telling Bush and Cheney that in Iraq, "'victory is the only meaningful exit strategy.' "This is so fascinating. Kissinger's fighting the Vietnam War again, because in his view, the problem in Vietnam is we lost our will. That we didn't stick to it."

...

The book also reported that then-CIA Director George Tenet and his counterterrorism chief, Cofer Black, grew so concerned about a possible al-Qaida attack in summer 2001 that they abruptly decided to drive straight to the White House to get high-level attention.

Tenet called Rice, then the national-security adviser, from his car to ask to see her in hopes that the surprise appearance would make an impression.

But the meeting on July 10, 2001, left Tenet and Black frustrated and feeling brushed off, Woodward reported. Rice, they believed, did not feel the same sense of urgency about the threat and was content to wait for a policy review.

[Michael Fisher]

The unfortunate thing here is, if Tenet would have announced this to the national media on 9/11 or 9/12, the Bush administration would probably not exist right now.

As it is, he kept his mouth shut and eventually took credit for the "intelligence failure."

What was he THINKING?  ???

[Dreepa]

Since when is Woodward a source we can trust?

[Michael Fisher]

Since when is Woodward a source we can trust?

Why else would fear strike the White House upon publishing this book?

"State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, responding on behalf of Rice, said Tenet and Black had never publicly expressed any frustration with her response. Tenet and Black did not respond to messages Friday."

It sounds to me like Woodward is telling the truth.

But why would they allow 9/11 to happen? I do not understand how anyone with even the smallest heart could do that. THAT is what I find unbelievable, even assuming Woodward's book is factual.

[KBCraig]

CENTCOM Sergeant Details Traitorous Stand Down Orders On 9/11
Military whistleblower comes forward with key information

Yet another fake crashes and burns:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=64837

Reminds me of Jesse Macbeth.

Kevin