The Non-Aggression Principle Just Does Not Work

[joeyforpresident]

By the very definitions, reasons, arguments and blatant attacks I have heard, read, seen and studied coming from the Grafton Gangsters ("Zack Bass," Bobby Y Emory, Chuck Geshlider), the elephant in the room in this discussion over the "Non-Aggression Principle" is the belief -- shared by the once-convicted Larry Pendarvis/Zack Bass -- that the State cannot, should not and will not stop or "initiate force" for someone who wants to view/distribute/buy/sell child pornography.

I mean, if you people think it's against NAP to allow the governing bodies to do all the other extremist things you all have advocated (mainly in the MidlothianTexas.net Yahoo Group), including animal sex, etc., then it's not a stretch -- again, pointing to the Pendarvis case -- to guess that you guys advocate the asinine notion that you can view/distribute/buy/sell child pornography.


And you would all be wrong.


NAP or no NAP, you guys are wrong.


Count me out of any NAP. None. Ever. If this is what "non initiation of force" means, screw all of you. I will not partake in any of it.


And if that doesn't make me purist-libertarian enough for you, so be it.

[K. Darien Freeheart]

I almost waisted my energy giving troll a serious response. Silly me.

[dalebert]

Emphatic proclamations and bold text do not an argument make.

[Coconut]

then it's not a stretch ...to guess that you guys advocate the asinine notion that you can view/distribute/buy/sell child pornography.

You jump to the most sick, least supported action that you can think of to support your claim that Non-aggression is wrong. Do you not have more than that?

Nonetheless, the asinine part of child pornography laws is the fact that a picture can be illegal. Where's the victim in viewing, distributing, buying, or selling those pictures?

[AntonLee]

pointing out stupidity does not equal an attack.  You're welcome.

so, why did you move to NH again?  Was it to go into people's bedrooms to see what type of porn they watch?  You'll come around, I sure did.  I used to come on these type of boards and spout the most ignorant bullshit I could believe.  I was dead wrong, dead to rights. 

I'm still ashamed of it.  To think, my plan for the world and everyone in it didn't quite fit for all people of all creeds, religions, nationalities, colors, and feelings.  I figured everyone else just needed to change. 

Problem was, that I needed the change.  I needed to understand that what goes on in someone else's home is none of my mf'ing business.  If you feel so strongly about child porn. . . I urge you to get a gun, find someone who has child porn (besides, perhaps, yourself), and take the law into your own hands. 

Got a problem?  Be a man and do something about it.  Violate the NAP all you want.  I hope and pray that you don't get shot by someone in the process, because it'd be a damn shame to have a person so bigoted and idiotic like I used to be, knocked down in the prime of their lives before they could figure out the whole liberty idea.

[Russell Kanning]

so ... if you think we are wrong ... do you want to leave this forum?

[K. Darien Freeheart]

Applauds and smites handed out. It's fun!

[J’raxis 270145]

so, why did you move to NH again?  Was it to go into people's bedrooms to see what type of porn they watch?

Probably. Another repressed social conservative, obsessing about other people's sexual habits. Surprising, really?

[MengerFan]

You silly NAPsters. Clearly the solution for violence against innocent people is violence against innocent people. When will you wake up?

[FTL_Ian]

I think Joey has a collection he feels guilty about...

[joeyforpresident]

Ian, I would be very careful about even so much as insinuating something like that.

I disagree with the premise of NAP on this controversial issue because of what I have heard, read, etc.

I am disagreeing with that "freedom."


But to insinuate again like that leaves you open for a potential legal challenge. At least with the characters I mentioned up at top, the evidence is proven that that is what they advocate (citing, for example, the case.)

[FTL_Ian]

Mods:  I'd like him banned for threatening violence against me.

[AntonLee]

for real, that's just uncalled for

what are you going to do Joey, please enlighten us.  I advocate that people do as they please as long as their actions do not harm someone or their property.

[Russell Kanning]

Ian, I would be very careful about even so much as insinuating something like that.

watchout ian .... he even told us at the beginning of this thread that he is willing to "aggress".

[Russell Kanning]

Mods:  I'd like him banned for threatening violence against me.

we may be forumnazis ... but banning joey daubin could open us up to sticky legal ramifications ... maybe you should just ridicule him on your radio show and ruin his future political career