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Free NRA membership (it looks like the deal is dead now, YMMV)

Started by thinkliberty, March 24, 2009, 09:58 AM NHFT

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leetninja


K. Darien Freeheart

Quotebecause i havent committed any felonies
"When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.

When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.

When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.

Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all."

leetninja

well depends on the felony i guess ...

i dont think someone who smashes mailboxes and is convicted of a felony should not be able to have a gun just because they did something stupid like playing mailbox baseball which is a relatively stupid thing to do ... however someone who wakes up in the morning and decides to say ... shoot a school bus full of kids dead being told they can not own a firearm now that they are out on parole for "good behavior" after X number of years in jail i am ok with in fact im glad said person doesnt have a gun or the right to wander around with one.

i think that about summarizes how i feel about it ... i think ...

perhaps i need enlightening on how that feeling would be wrong so i can better form an opinion on it but im not sure 


K. Darien Freeheart

Quoteshoot a school bus full of kids dead being told they can not own a firearm

Here's the heart of WHY felon ownership is so strong to me. You're not preventing felons from owning guns. You're preventing them from owning them legally. The distinction is, regardless of the law, people who want to hurt people will aquire the tools to get them. If the shooter on the school bus cared on bit for the law (or human life) he's have NOT shot those kids since murder has been illegal for a long time.

So, felon prohibition applies ONLY to those felons now willing to follow the law. Even if their previous violation was shooting a school bus full of kids, their willingness to NOT possess a gun indicates a willingness NOT to use it in a crime against a person. So, you've got a law that affects felons who won't hurt people into the future, and a DAMN CONVENIENT category for the goverment people to push non-felons INTO when they want to make them go away.

leetninja

that is why i said i dont have a strong opinion on it.  i agree with what you are saying but then i want to say "but wait" and go into a tangent about how it makes it harder to obtain a firearm if you are convicted versus not - but the debate is endless ... if the person decides to stab a bus full does that mean the govt will prohibit that person from buying knives? 

how will they cut their steak!?

i hope you know what im saying here. 


J’raxis 270145

Quote from: leetninja on March 25, 2009, 02:38 PM NHFT
I dont consider a plant that grows in the dirt an illegal or controlled substance.

That was the "felony" that Joe committed.

Sure you're not a felon? Sure you don't mind felons losing their right to keep and bear arms?