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Census Civil Disobedience

Started by bigmike, April 04, 2009, 05:57 AM NHFT

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MaineShark

Hey, I'd like to help them, but with identity theft being so common these days, how can I be certain they are on the level?

You can fake those badges so easily.

"I'd like to help.  Really I would.  I trust the Federal government, but you'll need to come up with some way to prove you actually work for them."

Heh.  I bet I could keep that up for an hour if the Censless worker didn't get discouraged....

Joe

Tim L

Well they came today.One woman in a green caravan who drove past 6 no trespassing signs .I met her at my front steps.As she introduced herself and asked if I could answer some questions,she glanced at my sidearm.I said firmly"no" she replied can I ask how many lived here as of April 1st ?I told her the number and she thanked me and got back in her van.I didn't see her gps but I suppose she could have done it from the van. I'm not happy she came past the signs but at least she wasn't unpleasant to deal with.

thinkliberty

I think someone could get charge with a crime for aiding a terrorist organization after helping census workers.

I don't want to brake the law by supporting a group that has a history of committing terrorism (the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion), which the census workers are being paid by to collect information for...

the US government defines themselves as a terrorists group in their own US Code

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/22/usc_sec_22_00002656---f000-.html
U.S. Code Title 22, Ch.38, Para. 2656f(d)

(d) Definitions
As used in this section—
(1) the term "international terrorism" means terrorism involving citizens or the territory of more than 1 country;
(2) the term "terrorism" means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;
(3) the term "terrorist group" means any group practicing, or which has significant subgroups which practice, international terrorism;
(4) the terms "territory" and "territory of the country" mean the land, waters, and airspace of the country; and
(5) the terms "terrorist sanctuary" and "sanctuary" mean an area in the territory of the country—
(A) that is used by a terrorist or terrorist organization—
(i) to carry out terrorist activities, including training, fundraising, financing, and recruitment; or
(ii) as a transit point; and
(B) the government of which expressly consents to, or with knowledge, allows, tolerates, or disregards such use of its territory...

FTL_Ian

I'm liking the stories so far, but this thread needs more video:
Just Say NO to the Census (and Government)

Tim L

I probably should have been nicer to the woman,because she'e an unknowing sheep .I was just highly pissed that she would blatantly ignore the no trespassing signs.I wonder if I will get a follow up visit.

Raineyrocks

Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on May 12, 2010, 11:06 PM NHFT
I'm liking the stories so far, but this thread needs more video:
Just Say NO to the Census (and Government)

Excellent!  :)   I wish I knew how to post videos on the net this is a great idea.  The Census person hasn't come back to my house yet, I'm waiting......

Russell Kanning

cool
I like the idea of the number getting bigger with each question.

Fluff and Stuff

FYI, rumor has it that some census workers in NH may be reporting people they speak with for drug violations.



Jim Johnson

Why would they stop at drugs?
Census workers have to be seeing all kinds of violations, both civil and criminal.
I'm wondering how many bounty hunters, undercover cops and code enforcers are taking census jobs.

A census job would also give home invaders, rapists and killers an opportunity to scope out potential victims.


MaineShark

Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on May 13, 2010, 06:18 PM NHFThttp://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-women-raped-by-census-worker-051110,0,3578244.story
QuoteThere are about 635,000 U.S. Census workers currently going door to door counting Americans who did not return their surveys. They will carry white badges with blue writing. The badges do not have photos. Census workers should also be carrying black canvas shoulder bags and brochures printed in 51 languages. If asked, the census takers are supposed to give you a supervisor's number to call.

Great.  Except he was an official Census worker, so how does information on spotting impostors help?

And what does having you call a number do, anyway, other than demonstrate that the individual has an accomplice who can answer a phone?

Joe

Tim L

Well, the second visit from the census people just happened. A green van again but a different woman.I told her that someone had already been there ,she replied I just want to verify some information.I said firmly "no I want you to leave".She smiled and said "ok" and got in the vans passenger side  it backed up ,turned around and left. How many times do these people come ?

FTL_Ian

Another, even friendlier census worker visits my house.  Video here:
http://freekeene.com/2010/05/19/video-just-say-no-to-the-census-and-government-round-two/

If only all bureaucrats were as nice as Kathleen when you tell them no!

Tim L

She was very nice, but will they come back? I'm waiting for another visit so that I can again tell them to leave my posted property. The no trespassing signs don't phase them at all.

AntonLee

Try one that says "if you are human and pass this sign be prepared to die.  I shoot any human that comes down this driveway.  Further down the driveway make one that says "I mean it"

but of course, don't do anything. . .I'm just curious if they had enough gonads to keep going.