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Why metals are health hazards?

Started by Humorrhoid, June 03, 2009, 10:27 AM NHFT

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Humorrhoid

Amalgams are made of alloys such as aluminum,tin,chromium,zinc,titanium etc...
Any metals is subject to corrosion especially whn put in any part of our body
where the body fluids (pH level) is always changing from alkaline to acidity.On top of it there is
the temperature factor. Body temp is higher than room temperature.

Example is a car,to sustains its metal parts & durability needs a constant
lubrication. Why lubricate? To prvent rust & corrosion. Do we lubricate our teeth  when metals are installed? No. And why is that?

Therfore these metals get rusty & become a source of anaerobic bacteria to grow as seen in tetanus,the CLostridium tetani. These bacteia being an anaerobes (oxygen loving) consumed the oxygen in our body cells,rendering them lack of oxygen supply. Without adequate oxygen supply cells dies or cannot regenerate/multiply on its own. Then what's next is the organ/organs fails to function.
In the case of amalgam fillings ,the mercury that is incorporated in it,no matter how small of a quantity
when subject to heat of force/friction during mastication, a mercury becomes unstable & disintegrate
in the form of a liquid gas, that we swallow unknowingly. Since it is constant & in a form of gas, it travels directly to the brain,costing the brain to get damaged & or unable to do its job such as giving signals to all parts of our organs. Hence the brain is paralyzed. The worst effect of amalgam in our mouth is called the galvanic effect to our brain. Where when the teeth is in motion with a metallic opposing ,it sends electrical current directly to the brain, & electricity causes the brain to go hyperactive or underactive ,depending on the amount of voltage is produced, break its original synaptic programs & shut down.

Hence amalgam poisoning is lethal ,not only it is bacterial content but also the electrical component it does to the neurological system of the human body.

Hoping this study sheds light to the hazards of metals & empower people to take charge
of their own health.

BTW there are no dentist in NH that specialize in Hg removal. They are all controlled by the maker of amalgams. In Europe where amalgam is illegal , removal of amalgam is a specialization. The dental operation is like a space shuttle & dental team  looks like astronauts when this procedures is being done.
That is how dangerous this thing is.

My best advice for the meantime is wear a mouth guard especially during sleeping/ eating. And brush ,not after you eat but before you eat.

John Edward Mercier


Pat McCotter

Amalgam is equal parts liquid mercury and powdered silver with small amounts of tin and copper mixed in. The silver is the actively antibiotic part of amalgam.

The argument against amalgams has been the mercury content. Studies have shown that there are no health risks due to this. Take that  as you will, I am not arguing for or against the studies, just giving you the info.

Amalgam use has been declining in recent years. I undrstand from my reading that this is mainly due to the fact that people have less cavities.

Pat McCotter

The electrical aspect of amalgam is the fact that your mouth environment is salty. Some people are so sensitive that using metal utensils or biting on aluminum foil cause electrical shocks in the teeth nerves.

Metal car parts are not lubed to prevent corrosion. They are lubed to reduce friction. Corrosion in cars is kept at bay by painting of the upper body parts and undercoating the underbody. The underbody has a thicker coating to prevent damage from road hazards.

JJ

Perhaps he chose the wrong analogy.  Any ferris metal left exposed to open air will rust/oxidize.  Where I last worked we had to battle this problem by spraying a thin coat of oil based rust preventive on all parts that would be sitting around.

Aluminum, tin, chromium, zinc and titanium, depending on the alloy, generally do not rust as there is little iron content but can still become tarnished.

KBCraig

What if your ferris wheel is non-ferrous?  ;)

KBCraig

Quote from: JJ on June 03, 2009, 02:19 PM NHFT
Aluminum, tin, chromium, zinc and titanium, depending on the alloy, generally do not rust as there is little iron content but can still become tarnished.

Aluminum oxidizes immediately on exposure to the air. Aluminum oxide is just very thin and looks like aluminum.

Lloyd Danforth

Aluminum is not hard, but, aluminum oxide is almost as hard as a diamond.

Puke


Tom Sawyer

Don't worry dude...

The Titanium Super Skeletal Frame the Army installed in you is reported to be perfectly safe...

Lloyd Danforth

At least no 'recalls' yet!  Was that a General Motors product?

geoff

Quote from: Humorrhoid on June 03, 2009, 10:27 AM NHFT
The worst effect of amalgam in our mouth is called the galvanic effect to our brain. Where when the teeth is in motion with a metallic opposing ,it sends electrical current directly to the brain, & electricity causes the brain to go hyperactive or underactive ,depending on the amount of voltage is produced, break its original synaptic programs & shut down.

Quote from: Pat McCotter on June 03, 2009, 12:28 PM NHFT
The electrical aspect of amalgam is the fact that your mouth environment is salty. Some people are so sensitive that using metal utensils or biting on aluminum foil cause electrical shocks in the teeth nerves.



galvanic corrosion occurs when 2 metals with different electrical potentials (# of electrons/charge) come into contact with each other in the presence of an electrolytic solution, such as the mouth fluids. So you are producing electron flow, but I usually try to avoid chewing on metal things anyway.

Bald Eagle

Quote from: Humorrhoid on June 03, 2009, 10:27 AM NHFT
Amalgams are made of alloys such as aluminum,tin,chromium,zinc,titanium etc...

"Amalgam" is a term for an alloy of elemental mercury.
http://files.rushim.ru/books/polytom/inorganic-synthesis/inorganic-synthesis01.pdf
Page 5 of the book.  "Page" 15 of the PDF file.

Aluminum?  Chromium?  Titanium?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_amalgam

Quote from: Humorrhoid on June 03, 2009, 10:27 AM NHFT
Any metals is subject to corrosion especially whn put in any part of our body
where the body fluids (pH level) is always changing from alkaline to acidity.On top of it there is
the temperature factor. Body temp is higher than room temperature.

Noble metals were given the name due to their noticeable LACK of corrosion in any environment, including concentrated acids.  Aqua Regia ("Royal Water") was a special mixture of concentrated nitric and hydrochloric acids that was able to dissolve gold - the royal metal.  That's why gold was used for fillings (also because it's malleable).  The pH of the body is tightly regulated around a pH level of 7.4.  Anything else, and you'll experience symptoms of acidosis or alkalosis.  

Quote from: Humorrhoid on June 03, 2009, 10:27 AM NHFT
Example is a car,to sustains its metal parts & durability needs a constant
lubrication. Why lubricate? To prvent rust & corrosion. Do we lubricate our teeth  when metals are installed? No. And why is that?

As someone so aptly pointed out, lubrication is provided for ... wait for it ... lubrication.
Prevention of rust and galvanic corrosion are accomplished by keeping the metal dry and minimizing contact with the air, avoiding electrical contact between metals in different parts of the electromotive series, insulation, paint, removal of road salts and other electrolytes, and installation of sacrificial electrodes such as in marine applications.

Quote from: Humorrhoid on June 03, 2009, 10:27 AM NHFT
Therfore these metals get rusty & become a source of anaerobic bacteria to grow as seen in tetanus,the CLostridium tetani. These bacteia being an anaerobes (oxygen loving) consumed the oxygen in our body cells,rendering them lack of oxygen supply. Without adequate oxygen supply cells dies or cannot regenerate/multiply on its own. Then what's next is the organ/organs fails to function.

Rusty metals are not "a source" of anaerobic, or any other bacteria.
The theory of spontaneous generation was debunked a long time ago, along with the Phlogistic theory.
Anaerobic, means "living or active in the absence of free oxygen."  An (NOT) Aerobic (pertaining to oxygen).  The sheer quantity of an AEROBIC organism in your mouth necessary to deprive your body of oxygen would mechanically block your trachea and you'd simply die of acute suffocation.  Like if someone mercifully stuck a sock in your mouth.  What's next is that organs like your brain fail to function ... oh wait.

Quote from: Humorrhoid on June 03, 2009, 10:27 AM NHFT
In the case of amalgam fillings ,the mercury that is incorporated in it,no matter how small of a quantity
when subject to heat of force/friction during mastication, a mercury becomes unstable & disintegrate
in the form of a liquid gas, that we swallow unknowingly. Since it is constant & in a form of gas, it travels directly to the brain,costing the brain to get damaged & or unable to do its job such as giving signals to all parts of our organs. Hence the brain is paralyzed. The worst effect of amalgam in our mouth is called the galvanic effect to our brain. Where when the teeth is in motion with a metallic opposing ,it sends electrical current directly to the brain, & electricity causes the brain to go hyperactive or underactive ,depending on the amount of voltage is produced, break its original synaptic programs & shut down.

Mercury does not become "unstable." Mercury has a vapor pressure, and so some small amount of mercury vapor is always being released from the surface of metallic mercury or an amalgam.
Smell a handful of pocket change.  Smells like "metal."  What is that?  What's the toxicity of NICKEL?
Should 5-cent coins be banned?
Your blather about the "galvanic effect to our brain" is a poorly regurgitated mish-mash of concepts that are too bastardized and confused to be worth unraveling and refuting.  There IS a "galvanic effect" though it's not what you make it out to be, mercury DOES get to the brain, and mercury DOES interfere with important amino acid residues that play an important role in protein structure and enzyme function.
But you clearly don't understand any of that anywhere near enough to be telling anyone anything.
Stop spewing JUNK - it makes ANYONE who questions the use of amalgam fillings look that much more of a crazy kook by association.  Read.  Learn.  Until then, shut up.

Quote from: Humorrhoid on June 03, 2009, 10:27 AM NHFT
Hence amalgam poisoning is lethal ,not only it is bacterial content but also the electrical component it does to the neurological system of the human body.

Hoping this study sheds light to the hazards of metals & empower people to take charge
of their own health.

BTW there are no dentist in NH that specialize in Hg removal. They are all controlled by the maker of amalgams. In Europe where amalgam is illegal , removal of amalgam is a specialization. The dental operation is like a space shuttle & dental team  looks like astronauts when this procedures is being done.
That is how dangerous this thing is.

My best advice for the meantime is wear a mouth guard especially during sleeping/ eating. And brush ,not after you eat but before you eat.

Ignorance empowers no one but the establishment.
Removal of amalgam is like any other dental operation - dentists are concerned for their well being, and their constant exposure to blood, saliva, X-ray radiation, and rotting teeth.  Protection from mercury vapor and dust from any drilling is just one more thing on top of all of that.
You might have ONE solid filling.  In their practice they'll be fragmenting MANY fillings into high-surface area particles.  It the difference between using a 24-oz bottle of consumer paint-stripper, and working in the plant that manufactures millions of gallons of dichloromethane.  It's the dose that makes the poison.

Vitamins are toxic.  Heavy metals are toxic.  Compounds present in natural, organic food are toxic.  
Try LIVING without any of that.  
Too little vitamin A or too much is not good.
Too much Chromium is not good, especially the +6 oxidation state, but hit the supplements aisle and pick yourself up a bottle of "chromium picolinate".  It's got a scary, synthetic heterocyclic ligand as well.  Ooh.
Look up goitrogenic compounds, aflatoxin, cyanogenic glycosides, phytoestrogens, solanines, tyramine, lathyrogens, avidin, lectins, oxalate, etc....
Also consider that while no one would recommend the practice of coprophagia, the digestive tract is constantly full of it every day of our lives, and we're not dead yet.


In the future, I would lay off the pot and read a book.  

http://books.google.com/books?id=PyUSgdZUGr4C&pg=PA870&lpg=PA870&dq=aspirate+mercury+lungs&source=bl&ots=IJTS56sYlV&sig=6PZpIEkilnaO6wkjIxmfJbLqBU0&hl=en&ei=f_EnSvifCdyptge9_LG1Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5

http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/FDA_hearings/FDASuitabilityofMercury.pdf

http://gupea.ub.gu.se/dspace/bitstream/2077/4201/1/ah1998_02.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/AC/06/slides/2006-4218s2-03.pdf

JJ

Quote from: KBCraig on June 03, 2009, 05:18 PM NHFT
What if your ferris wheel is non-ferrous?  ;)

LOL I thought I had it spelled wrong but bleh.  Thanks for the correction KB.

Puke

Quote from: Tom Sawyer on June 04, 2009, 07:01 AM NHFT
Don't worry dude...
The Titanium Super Skeletal Frame the Army installed in you is reported to be perfectly safe...

Phew! I was worried for a moment.  ;D