Second hand breath

[Kat Kanning]

If CO₂ is so toxic, maybe second hand breathing should be regulated by the government.  I mean, what could be worse than breathing in that toxic gas someone has just breathed into your face? 

[MTPorcupine3]

Don't worry, it's coming. It's called a carbon tax, payable to the international bankers, on your children (after one), your farm animals, pets, etc.

[John Edward Mercier]

CO2 is only toxic above certain concentrations and periods of time...
At least to humans, which I was presuming you meant.

[violence]

CO2 is only toxic above certain concentrations and periods of time...
At least to humans, which I was presuming you meant.

go away.


haha 

[K. Darien Freeheart]

I mean, what could be worse than breathing in that toxic gas someone has just breathed into your face?

If you have to ask, I think you need a lesson on the health risks of dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO).

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

[tomgh]

But CO2 is not being labeled toxic. See, it has to do with the rate of loss of solar heat to balance global temperature. CO2 tends to trap that heat.

You might check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect or check this diagram:

[ByronB]

I mean, what could be worse than breathing in that toxic gas someone has just breathed into your face?

If you have to ask, I think you need a lesson on the health risks of dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO).

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

(used) "by the Church of Scientology on their members and their members' families (although surprisingly, many members recently have contacted DHMO.org to vehemently deny such use)"

LMAO, I guess those cocky freaks aren't so smart after all.

[tracysaboe]

Don't give them any ideas! 

Tracy

[John Edward Mercier]

But CO2 is not being labeled toxic. See, it has to do with the rate of loss of solar heat to balance global temperature. CO2 tends to trap that heat.

You might check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect or check this diagram:

Actually in the case that got this ball really rolling was its level of toxicity. The EPA would have no jurisdiction unless some hard science equated the increase to human health. Though the present concentrations aren't anywhere near it.
No one is being fooled... the legislation really accomplishes nothing, but looks good. The federal and State governments have always had control over the public utilities that provide the major portion of electric power. They've had complete control over oil production and taxation... same with coal and natural gas.
This is largely a vote buying exercise.

[Ogre]

The whole idea of man-man CO2 having any effect on, well, anything is a total scam designed to enslave people and give certain special people cash they didn't earn by force.

[FreelanceFreedomFighter]

I mean, what could be worse than breathing in that toxic gas someone has just breathed into your face?

If you have to ask, I think you need a lesson on the health risks of dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO).

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

We definitely need to be careful with this dangerous stuff. I think, in the interests of fairness, that we keep it (in any form) away from all politicians and government employees for at least 3 months to see if any overall improvement can be observed.

[John Edward Mercier]

The whole idea of man-man CO2 having any effect on, well, anything is a total scam designed to enslave people and give certain special people cash they didn't earn by force.

NH has been doing it for a while now...
I can't remember which RGGI auction is about to occur.

[Pat McCotter]

The whole idea of man-man CO2 having any effect on, well, anything is a total scam designed to enslave people and give certain special people cash they didn't earn by force.

NH has been doing it for a while now...
I can't remember which RGGI auction is about to occur.

The fourth auction.

RGGI Carbon Allowance Auction Price Falls 8% to $3.23
June 19, 2009

All 30.8 million allowances under the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI) were sold at auction this week, fetching an average price of $3.23 per allowance.

That price is down from the $3.51 achieved in the March auction. View the entire auction results here.

This time, the minimum bid was set at $1.86, with a maximum of $12.

One bidder bought up 7.7 million allowances or nearly a fourth of all those available. In all, four bidders purchased 2 million or more emission allowances, with nine bidders buying 1 million or more, and 18 bidders scooping up 250,000 allowances or more.

The auction generated $104.2 million for the 10 participating Northeast and Mid-Atlantic states, with funds to be put toward investments in energy efficiency programs and renewable energy, among other initiatives.

Prices for 2012 vintage allowances received a lower price of $2.06.

In a separate document, Point Carbon notes that the RGGI and other regional carbon trading initiatives would be adversely affected by the Waxman-Markey climate bill winding its way through the House of Representatives.

Utilities buying allowances from regional programs would be able to trade in their regional allowances at a value equal to what they paid. In that case, utilities and other emitters would be forced to spend more at that time. For instance, if the government sets a $13-17 price for carbon, and a utility has bought 1,000 regional allowances at $3.50 each, the utility would receive only about 250 federal allowances, meaning that it would have to spend more on down the line.

In other carbon-tracking news, Know The Number unveiled a 70-foot-tall billboard (see above image) in New York City, near Madisson Square Garden, that is a real-time estimation of global carbon emissions. The carbon counter also is available on the Web, where individuals and businesses can download a real-time widget for their computer desktop or Web site.

As of Friday, June 19, the carbon counter stood at more than 3.6 trillion metric tons.

[Pat McCotter]

RGGI Updates

The Auction Notice for RGGI Auction 5 will be released no later than 8:00am ET on Tuesday, July 14

RGGI, Inc. will host a bidder webinar from 2:00pm-4:00pm ET on Thursday, July 16th. Click here to learn more.

[John Edward Mercier]

So this isn't a 'real' auction where the market sets the price?