porc 411 7-17-09 4pm ~ish

[JJ]

Different strokes for different folks.

[Russell Kanning]

12 messages (again).  Am I the only one who thinks this is excessive?

I don't disagree. There is a better way.

If you just want your voice recorded ... you can call the paper's number we have from error

283-6163

it will just take a message and send me an email

[Russell Kanning]

i can start a thread on this forum and free keene and post the messages

[Sam A. Robrin]

12 messages (again).  Am I the only one who thinks this is excessive?

I find it excessive... as I find Curt/Lumpy excessive.

His behavior on more than one occasion I found to be unnecessarily confrontational ie. he is the first one to start calling people thugs etc. A bit of a drama queen, grandstanding and looking for the spotlight.

I was a victim of hearing his calls on Sunday. He was real winey in the cruiser.  I might have tazed him.

I'd thought I had figured out every possible angle on the issue of why we don't need the State--but now there's a brand new one.  We don't need the State to go about destroying our lives--we're perfectly capable of doing it ourselves . . .
     Is it so difficult to give somebody in Kurt's position a little sympathetic respect, and save the criticism for a later time when events have settled a bit? And maybe do it quietly, in private, when you do?  This sort of divisiveness won't do anyone any good.  It just reflects badly on the entire movement.

[Fluff and Stuff]

Sam, if you don't know how Russsel feels about Kurt, maybe you should ask him.  It might shed some light on the situation for you.

[Lloyd Danforth]

12 messages (again).  Am I the only one who thinks this is excessive?

I find it excessive... as I find Curt/Lumpy excessive.

His behavior on more than one occasion I found to be unnecessarily confrontational ie. he is the first one to start calling people thugs etc. A bit of a drama queen, grandstanding and looking for the spotlight.

I was a victim of hearing his calls on Sunday. He was real winey in the cruiser.  I might have tazed him.

I'd thought I had figured out every possible angle on the issue of why we don't need the State--but now there's a brand new one.  We don't need the State to go about destroying our lives--we're perfectly capable of doing it ourselves . . .
     Is it so difficult to give somebody in Kurt's position a little sympathetic respect, and save the criticism for a later time when events have settled a bit? And maybe do it quietly, in private, when you do?  This sort of divisiveness won't do anyone any good.  It just reflects badly on the entire movement.

I spoke to several people today who agreed and appreciated my comment.  And some of them didn't hear the part in the cruiser!  Nobody else's behavior reflects on me.

[Jim Johnson]

12 messages (again).  Am I the only one who thinks this is excessive?

I find it excessive... as I find Curt/Lumpy excessive.

His behavior on more than one occasion I found to be unnecessarily confrontational ie. he is the first one to start calling people thugs etc. A bit of a drama queen, grandstanding and looking for the spotlight.

I was a victim of hearing his calls on Sunday. He was real winey in the cruiser.  I might have tazed him.

I'd thought I had figured out every possible angle on the issue of why we don't need the State--but now there's a brand new one.  We don't need the State to go about destroying our lives--we're perfectly capable of doing it ourselves . . .
     Is it so difficult to give somebody in Kurt's position a little sympathetic respect, and save the criticism for a later time when events have settled a bit? And maybe do it quietly, in private, when you do?  This sort of divisiveness won't do anyone any good.  It just reflects badly on the entire movement.

Open dissension about open dissension? 
Please... not in front of the children.

[Tom Sawyer]

  Johnson

Let's see...

Comments from three participants who have good standing, experience, and knowledge...

Might be more going on than you realize Sam A.

Besides any of that, letting people know about somone's conduct is a priority for me, and one of the best uses of this forum.

[Coconut]

Blind support of someone just because he has our views makes us seem less intelligent, and more open to valid criticism from those that would call us "a closed, unwelcoming, group". Critical analysis should always be welcome.

This does not mean I do not like Kurt, or do not wish Kurt were free. I like Kurt, and I realize Kurt has faults, and I wish Kurt would be free so he could best address them.

[violence]

eh, i don't think being angry at people who are stealing your things and taking you away to a cage is a fault. sounds like a plus to me.

[Coconut]

i don't think being angry at people who are stealing your things and taking you away to a cage is a fault.

Where did I say that that was his fault?

[violence]

i don't think being angry at people who are stealing your things and taking you away to a cage is a fault.

Where did I say that that was his fault?

well he is really angry and expressing it.

how is the cop going to know you're angry if you keep it to yourself. you think he goes home pulls up nhunderground and reads the forums?

[Tom Sawyer]

Like some guy... we have never met, who has no knowledge of the players, (and was asked to leave)... opinion matters.

[violence]

Like some guy... we have never met, who has no knowledge of the players, (and was asked to leave)... opinion matters.

[JJ]

Kurt's method is not the one I would choose, that being said, I like that we have a person like Kurt doing civil-dis.  He adds yet another color to the rainbow, if you will.  Varied tactics is a sound strategy.  Free Kurt!