Military gearing up to fight pig flu

[thinkliberty]

The military is gearing up to fight pig flu.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/29/military-poised-help-fema-battle-swine-flu-outbreak/

[Raineyrocks]

This is not good! 

[RichMattos]

 
And if their isn't enough military the goverment will be using private merc groups/I mean Private security firms such as Blackwater (Now Z since the iraq incident).

Remember the great Job Fema did during katrina? disarming honest citizens so they can't defend themselvs.

forcing people to leave their homes to go to a safe area arena were people were getting raped and dying.

[geoff]

So if they declared your (general your) area a disaster/disease area, and that all in it must be relocated to another safe area/camp, what would you do? 

[freeman4liberty]

And if their isn't enough military the goverment will be using private merc groups/I mean Private security firms such as Blackwater (Now Z since the iraq incident).

You spelled Z wrong.  It's spelled xe.  It's pronounced like you pronounce the letter "z," but it's spelled xe.

[Raineyrocks]

So if they declared your (general your) area a disaster/disease area, and that all in it must be relocated to another safe area/camp, what would you do? 

I'm not sure to tell you the truth.  I've been thinking about this a lot and the only thought I can come up with is abandoning the house but how would my family really survive in the wilderness, especially in the winter time?   They'd probably be looking for people "on the run" too, so I really don't know.
Rick and I were talking about this a couple of nights ago and he's not sure what he would do if they made the H1N1/Swine flu vaccine mandatory so that he could go to work.
You bring up a really good question and I hope this thread brings in some good suggestions.  Thanks +1 ! 

[geoff]

So if they declared your (general your) area a disaster/disease area, and that all in it must be relocated to another safe area/camp, what would you do? 

I'm not sure to tell you the truth.  I've been thinking about this a lot and the only thought I can come up with is abandoning the house but how would my family really survive in the wilderness, especially in the winter time?   They'd probably be looking for people "on the run" too, so I really don't know.

I would like to say that that would be a line in the sand, but I don't know for sure.  I think they would be after people on the run, so escaping might not be a good option.  You could always try to lie and say you already got it and their paperwork is messed up.  I think that there might be enough people who were against a mandatory crazy vaccination that a group or groups might form in protest, and if numbers were strong enough and they flat out said no, they might get away with it.  Or just be rounded up in mass with whatever agency they're using.  I think I would resist complying for as long as I could, look at escape options, and figure out if it was really a line in the sand when there were no other options left.

[Raineyrocks]

Hi Geoff!      I don't know if this article is on the "up & up" but I've bolded how they are supposedly going to ensure that people can't just say they already got the vaccine. Here is the article and again I bolded the part.   I think somebody may have posted this or some article like it.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg142.htm

THE DEATH OF LIBERTY: THE FINAL SCENE UNFOLDS



By Greg Evensen

July 29, 2009

NewsWithViews.com

When police investigators begin amassing evidence at a crime scene, the bits and pieces of the puzzle begin to take shape. Usually, with several trained men and women working together to come up with an answer, the intent and actions of the perpetrator are almost always revealed.

Since my core training and experience over many years was as a state level enforcement officer, I have worked crime scenes that were large, complex and conflicting. With enough time, effort and resolve, we too, were able to bring the bad guys to account.

You certainly do not have to be a trained state trooper—or any other level police agent—to use common sense, logic and knowledge, to assess the crime scene that has become the socialist states of amerika.

I continue to be at a loss to explain how it is that so many tens of millions of amerikans simply do not see the utter destruction of their former republic by socialists, one worlders, deviates, liars and thieves. The men in black have been roving the country flashing their memory erasers around the clock. Let's take a check on how things are really going.

Our nation's police forces prior to the criminal thug Richard Nixon were centered on community policing. MOST of their time was spent on looking for, identifying, and monitoring criminals, and responding to unusual or dangerous events that were beyond the control of ordinary folks. We appreciated those officers and were proud to say, "he is OUR Cop!" We knew that we could talk to him, kid him, see him play adult softball, and sit across from him in church. We watched him shed tears when one of our kids didn't make it home after a night of drinking and driving. We remembered him at Christmas, because he didn't make much you know.

I said "him" because back then, there were no women in the ranks.

As government began its sickening expansion, policing became a meaner and nastier job. It was made that way by badge wearing thugs who didn't hesitate to do whatever they were told by the S.A.C. (Special Agent in Charge) of the FBI, BATF(E), US Marshal's Office right down to armed poultry inspectors—yes they have them and they are really tough on criminal chickens. The "us against them" mentality, and the "mission essential" attitude justified SWAT teams, "dynamic entries," and later use of MACE, TASERS, FLASHBANG GRENADES and "routine" use of SUBMACHINE guns. All in the name of "taking down" the accused—no matter the charge. I abhor such police tactics and was an officer that served my own warrants, rarely with one other officer at the back door.

Now we have become eaves-dropping, roadblock setting, door crashing, face grinding, arm breaking, pursuit driven bastards that have sold their asses to the government masters hell bent on establishing the TRUE reincarnation of the dreaded SS. That is NO overstatement. Note: There are significant numbers of officers at all levels that simply detest the forced training at FEMA centers, the requirements to stop Patriots and others simply because they "look" dangerous, and are exercising free speech statements on their vehicles. By whose ultimate authority does this take place? By whose ultimate judgment is it that it is necessary to harass INNOCENT drivers and families? The public sees this Gestapo mentality as far more of a danger than any stickers they put on their vehicles? Where are all these "faithful" enforcers of the law when it comes to confronting the unlawful, unconstitutional, unjustifiable, and unmerciful rotten bunch of usurpers, communists, atheists, deviated, immoral scungebuckets that are walking the halls of Congress, the White House, and the Federal Courts? How is it that the "get 'em at any cost" morons at Homeland Security have created an environment in amerika that is an unwarranted intrusion of power in 186 other nations?
And all of this is done in the name of safety and security. I guess that a majority of ignorant buffoons really do believe that Barack Sotero is the Messiah and he does hold the keys to socialist paradise in his hands.

So, once again, I implore those officers of the law who are in grave doubt about the legitimate authenticity of their superiors in any agency, to simply read the constitution, re-read their oath of office, seek out retired officers for guidance, and remember this very carefully—to brutalize citizens in the pursuit of order, is a guaranteed recipe for resistance. PLEASE do not pit yourselves (all 650,000 officers at all levels in the US) against a seething and angry populace who outnumber you 5000 to 1. Believe me; you want all of us working with you, not against you.

Have you been made aware of the massive roadblock plans to stop all travelers for a vaccine bracelet (stainless steel band with a micro-chip on board) that will force you to take the shot? Refuse it? You will be placed on a prison bus and taken to a quarantine camp. What will you do when your children are NOT allowed into school without the shot? What will you do when you are not allowed into the workplace without the vaccine paperwork? Buy groceries? Go to the bank? Shop anywhere?? Get on a plane, bus or train? Use the toilet in the mall? Nope. Police officers will become loathed, feared, despised and remembered for their "official" duties.

This nation is racing at interceptor speed toward a day of reckoning that has never been dreamed of. The lack of common sense, unusual brutality, and unintended consequences of the days of fall and winter will turn our overweight, undereducated, unchurched, and unprepared society into a wasteland of the abused and uncared for leftovers.

The recent training session in Crystal Falls gave people from all over the Midwest, an opportunity to taste independence, teamwork and hope. The singleness of purpose and deep caring for others who an half hour before were unknowns, proved to us all that freedom, honesty, personal skills based on common sense and preparation REALLY DO WORK!! We will never forget that time together. The caring folks who have asked me to come and speak to them about these same issues are precious examples of Americans who are willing to make the effort to have someone—ANYONE—help them see some daylight. We are beginning to make a difference, thanks to them.

The reason hundreds of others have sent for the DVD seminar, is because they could not get to a live seminar. They have seen the need, are sharing the information and are 100 to 1 grateful for it. One guy calling himself the "anti-rights American" told me precisely what he thought of me and others like me (implied). I cannot state it here. One other said it was useless to him since he was a Viet Nam veteran involved with MAC-SOG training and forward combat experience. I replied to him that many of the folks who were thrilled and let us know that, were not in his league. You decide, and no matter how I would like to be one of hundreds providing this service, I am one of a VERY few. I am told that no one else is willing to commit to a live audience or DVD, the things that I say.

That was certainly true of the issues covered at the in-field session held last week. It is time to lay down some plans that will get you through the galactic storm that is almost upon us. Do all you can. Do what you must. If you hesitate, you will become a quarantine camp victim or a casualty.

I have hundreds of police officers at all levels and military men placing their careers on the line with information that confirms every shred of the worst case scenario. You have been warned thousands of times, and yet you dismiss me and many others out of hand as nut-jobs, because we went out to the twig part of the branch to bring you information that freedom loving true remnant patriots must have.

I do not know entirely where amerika is in these perilous times in regard to the Holy Scriptures, but I will tell you this. We have welcomed the evil that has gripped this land and deserve whatever is retribution from God. I do cling to the hope that we will make some difference to others, if we will just not give in to the sweet assurances offered by the deceiver in charge of the nation and his winged monkeys on Capital Hill. The federal courts are basically the living room of hell for wrongfully accused citizens who have no other choice but to submit to the mouth of the lion.

[Raineyrocks]

Yup, it's been posted already by Wolf. A cop that I might be able to like (does such a thing exist??)   (That's the thread's name)

Sorry for the repost, Wolf!

[Raineyrocks]

Here's more good news.      I didn't post the entire blog but I guess this contains some information that may or may not be verifiable, I'll check into it more later.

http://farmwars.info/?p=1314

Fighting to Save the Family Farm!


Refusing vaccination labels you a "criminal", so says WHO

dusplashThe World Health Organization determined in 2005 it has the authority to dissolve sovereign governments and take control should there be a "pandemic". This applies to any country signed onto WHO....which of course we are. The WHO just raised this non-existent pandemic to level 4.

From the WHO 2005 declaration: (excerpted) " Under special pandemic plans enacted around the world including the USA, in 2005, national governments are to be dissolved in the event of a pandemic emergency and replaced by special crisis committees, which take charge of the health and security infrastructure of a country, and which are answerable to the WHO and EU in Europe and to the WHO and UN in North America.

If the Model Emergency Health Powers Act is implemented on the instructions of WHI, it will be a criminal offence for Americans to refuse the vaccine. Police are allowed to use deadly force against "criminal" suspects. Here are ten key points associated with MSEHPA:

Under the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, upon the declaration of a "public health emergency," governors and public health officials would be empowered to:

Force individuals suspected of harboring an "infectious disease" to undergo medical examinations.

Track and share an individual's personal health information, including genetic information.

Force persons to be vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for infectious diseases.

Mandate that all health care providers report all cases of persons who harbor any illness or health condition that may be caused by an epidemic or an infectious agent and might pose a "substantial risk" to a "significant number of people or cause a long-term disability." (Note: Neither "substantial risk" nor "significant number" are defined in the draft.)

Force pharmacists to report any unusual or any increased prescription rates that may be caused by epidemic diseases.

Preempt existing state laws, rules and regulations, including those relating to privacy, medical licensure, and–this is key–property rights.

Control public and private property during a public health emergency, including pharmaceutical manufacturing plants, nursing homes, other health care facilities, and communications devices.

Mobilize all or any part of the "organized militia into service to the state to help enforce the state's orders." Ration firearms, explosives, food, fuel and alcoholic beverages, among other commodities.

Impose fines and penalties to enforce their orders.

So there you have it. You are now officially to be declared a criminal if you refuse the vaccine and deadly force can be used against you if you resist. And to think, not only did our federal government agree to this abomination, it was also successful in getting the same laws passed in most states. I will be revisiting this list of powers in a subsequent article as it relates to the coming "healthcare reform", and other odious pieces of legislation being devised.

This gives me pause to consider this: Could the so-called healthcare reform that the government claims must be done right away, right now, quickly, immediately....no time to waste be tied somehow to this WHO declaration? Hmmmm. I smell a really big rat!

Those pesky FEMA drills...part of a plan?

I am wary of this FEMA drill that is taking place not only for the obvious reasons....but its close proximity to the planned forced vaccinations scheduled to be mandated early this fall. Our own government has expressed its intent to forcibly vaccinate school children as a starter. By all means.....target the most vulnerable first. (Take that any way you like.)

On MSM last evening it was reported that young people between the ages of 19 and 24 are for some reason most susceptible to this lab created virus. I find this curious as this segment of the population is generally the healthiest. Since the "swine" flu has been so thoroughly exposed as lab created they are now just simply calling it the N1 whatever flu. Apparently this first test run of what was supposed to be a global pandemic couldn't get off the ground: it didn't spread as was hoped. Of course the same thing happened with SARS and the Bird Flu.....Those didn't work so now we get the "Swine Flu", or the N1 Whatever Flu". Strange how all these flu's showed up after they dug up bodies from mass graves to see if they really did die from the flu epidemic in 1918. The new and improved version of this virus is now what we are calling N1 Whatever Flu.

[geoff]

What is really scary is that alot of things are seeming to start to tie together.  This article:  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html   says a civil war will start in fall 2009 followed by total breakup of the U.S. by 2010.  I don't know whether I believe it or not, and I'm not saying anybody should get in a fit over stuff, but then you've got national healthcare coming soon, and possible mandatory vaccinations this fall.  So what if the only choices are between mandatory vaccination/ becoming a refugee/ violent resistance?  It would seem to support the theory the russian presents as first a civil uprising, which he says would be due to race relations, maybe because if you resist vaccination you'll be a "racist;" then even more polarization of you either take it or they try to kill you.  It just looks to me like something really bad is coming down the line, and you can either choose to be subjugated by the new era gestapo, be taken to a camp, or stand your ground and fight and become labeled as a nut who wanted to hurt the brave protectors of society.  And there are probably a handful of other things that "they" are trying to do that would coincide roughly with this proposed timeline.  Like the recent tripling (I think) of the amount of dollars in the system.

[thinkliberty]

I think this swine flu is just like the y2k computer bug, you have people screaming the world is going to end, but it will end up being a non-event.

This is just another case of politicians creating hobgoblins to "save" people from their imagination.

[freeman4liberty]

This article:  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html   

... is silly.  I don't see the US breaking up like that.  Virgina, west Virgina and Kentucky will be part of the south.  Also I don't think that his claim about this part will be under such and such influence is relevant at all.  He has New Hampshire, and Kentucky as part of the European union.

[Raineyrocks]

I think this swine flu is just like the y2k computer bug, you have people screaming the world is going to end, but it will end up being a non-event.

This is just another case of politicians creating hobgoblins to "save" people from their imagination.

I hope your right! 

[geoff]

I think the article in some respects is silly and not in others.  I don't know how much I believe that any portion of what would be the former U.S. would be annexed by any country or union.  The thing that I do somewhat see as relevant from it is the timeline the author presents.  For instance, this fall, let's say the dollar crashes or we experience some level of hyper inflation.  That would most likely cause civil unrest.  The majority of the patriot types, and probably alot of minarchist liberty types, and everyone related to those fields would probably finally recognize that the gov't can't actually accomplish anything, even keeping itself afloat.  Then, bring in the hypothetical scenario of a mandatory vaccination, and the likelihood that there would be at least a decent number of people that I mentioned before that no longer trust/want anything to do with the gov't, who would probably refuse.  I could easily see both of those scenarios happening and could also easily see martial law being instituted as a result, which could result in escalation of civil unrest/violence.