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J.H. Huebert of LewRockwell.com Attacks FSP, Topless Women Protest

Started by LibertarianMan, July 29, 2009, 07:45 PM NHFT

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J.H. Huebert, a blogger and writer for LewRockwell.com, has come out on the Libertarian Forum group (of which I'm a member) and has criticized the Free State Project, Sam Dodson, and the planned topless women protest. I even forwarded it to Angela Keaton of Antiwar.com, who is also a member of the Ladies Liberty Alliance which endorses the protest and Ian's girlfriend Julia who also supports it as well.

Ian and Mark already have the email. Here's Huebert's ludicrous and pathetic anti-Liberty rant.

(Personally, Huebert is a fucking sexist and dipshit for writing this bullshit, but you guys decide for yourself....)



I hate libertarians.
by J.H. Huebert


Okay, not all libertarians.  Just the ones in the Free State
Project.

Okay, not all libertarians in the Free State Project.  Just the ones
in Keene, New Hampshire.

Okay, probably not all of them.  Probably not most of them.  Just the
ones I've noticed.

For something I'm writing, I've been researching the FSP, and I think
it's a brilliant idea with a lot of potential to work.  The
mastermind, Jason Sorens, appears to me to be a libertarian hero
worthy of much praise.  The whole thing is extremely well thought out,
and the reasons for choosing New Hampshire as their state are
excellent.  When I read his stuff, it makes me want to pick up and
move to New Hampshire.

The only flaw with the project is that it requires the members of the
libertarian movement to act like sensible, reasonable human beings,
which apparently is asking too much.

Overall, it seems like the FSP people, especially its leaders, are a-
okay principled libertarians.  For all I know, they're *all*
principled libertarians, or at least good enough for me
ideologically.

But in their approach, some of the people in Keene appear to be
extremely foolish.

The first and worst things are the "Sam Dodson" type stunts, where you
go do something pointless that you know is likely to get you
arrested.  Or you just make an ass of yourself for no obvious reason,
like pretending you don't understand a judge when he's speaking plain
English to you.  Typically the point of civil disobedience is to call
the public's attention to an injustice.  But if an anarchist
libertarian like me can't understand the point of your protest, what
is it going to teach anybody else?  It's going to teach them that
libertarians are lunatics, or at least extremely frivolous people who
don't have any serious ideas that would actually improve their
lives.

Then there's their "parking meter Robin Hood" stunt, where they go put
money in people's parking meters and leave a note explaining that
parking meters are unjust because people are forced to pay for parking
spots through taxes, then forced to pay again when they actually want
to use them.  People may appreciate being spared the ticket, but
parking meters are one of the worst things you could use to try to
illustrate government injustice.  It's a fact that the government owns
streets and parking spaces, and that's about the last thing that the
NH libertarians will ever change, no matter how successful they are
otherwise.  So given that we're stuck with government streets for the
foreseeable future, we can have free parking and therefore parking
shortages, or we can try to at least approximate a market.  Of course
-- as they're showing their neighbors -- libertarians prefer chaos.
And you know what these people would do if the town took the parking
meters away -- they'd try to "homestead" a space permanently by
plunking some junk car or other big object in a space.  Then when they
government tow truck came, they'd lie down in front of it, yelling
about how they're being oppressed, hoping to god they get tased and
arrested so all their friends can see it on YouTube.

Now the latest is that some young women in Keene want to get topless
in public to fight for the right to do that.  Of course, I'm of two
minds about this.  But it's an idiotic cause because it's a fight over
what you can do on public property, and there's no obvious reason why
your desire to be topless should trump some other person's desire not
to run into topless women when going about their business.  Plus it
needlessly offends a large segment of the community who might actually
appreciate you if you chose as your battle one of the hundreds of
issues that *actually matters*.

Ugh!

AntonLee

I've heard of Sam Dodson.  I've heard of the Keene liberty movement.  I've heard about the activism in Keene. 

Who is this guy again?  He likes the idea so much that he refuses to move to NH and do his own activism?

Lame attack dog article.  It doesn't even seem that well thought out to me, even if you put aside where I disagree. 

Anyways, taking a dump on the activism you don't like. . . and not offering much of anything as a solution.  I guess people should just write blogs instead of doing stuff. 

He's also got quite the positive attitude.  Seems like a do nothing dick.

Kat Kanning


Fluff and Stuff

Several Lewrockwell.com writers are involved with the FSP.  Several even live in NH.  Plus the FSP currently has ads (which have done well) on the Lewrockwell podcast and the related web page.

This guy just seems highly confused.

And BTW, please link to original sources if at all possible when you post things you didn't write.  Thank you.

Russell Kanning

another guy who will not be moving to keene .... that sounds good

Lloyd Danforth

Probably not gonna move to Concord, either.

Pat K


Tom Sawyer

The roots of the Keeniacs can be traced back through the underground to the same kind of freakout...

Ohhh myyy goddd! Their going to burn UN Flags!

The earnest guys whose goal is to earn the respect of the current powers that be and then 'they will let us be free!' They create the drama that is wind to the sails of these protests. They help create what they are afraid of.

Pat K

Quote from: Tom Sawyer on July 29, 2009, 09:46 PM NHFT
The roots of the Keeniacs can be traced back through the underground to the same kind of freakout...

Ohhh myyy goddd! Their going to burn UN Flags!

The earnest guys whose goal is to earn the respect of the current powers that be and then 'they will let us be free!' They create the drama that is wind to the sails of these protests. They help create what they are afraid of.


:clap:  You are correct Sir. Pretty good stufff there from a jar-head.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on July 29, 2009, 09:16 PM NHFT
Probably not gonna move to Concord, either.
to close to the action also

if this guy only knew about the underground and the secret seven ... man would he hate those guys

K. Darien Freeheart

There's no such thing as bad publicity. This guy wrote an article telling people who might not have known "They're doing activism in Keene! There's this huge thing called the Free State Project in New Hampshire!"

firecracker joe

 :) as a NH native I welcome sam dodson and anyone who thinks like him and jh huebert can stay right where he is he's not wanted in my state . JH sounds like a closed minded jerk who knows nothing about equality

Puke

He's a fucking law professor.  ::)
Of course he poo-poos what we do.


David

Quote from: Russell Kanning on July 29, 2009, 08:46 PM NHFT
another guy who will not be moving to keene .... that sounds good
Pretty much what I thought.  Sam did a by the book act of civil disobedience, and this buy complains about it.  We don't need law professors who have too much invested in the system, we need radicals, and doers. 

bile

I reposted his rant on my blog and he emailed me to tell me:

QuoteFYI, the material in the post in which you quoted me was something off-the-cuff intended for a private audience -- not something that was intended to be published.  The only reason there's any "liberty movement drama" over it is because a (now former) member violated the list's trust by sending it out.