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Isophix

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And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« on: August 05, 2009, 05:07 PM NHFT »

Well, folks, it's official.

I will be landing in Manchester, NH, on 25 August 2009, at 12:10pm.

I would love to find a roof and a job, as soon as yesterday.

I will be happy to chip in on a fair share of an apartment, or a spare room.

I also am looking for any type of work, to bring in some income. I am a computer geek, have experience handling hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash (casino dealer), and am an all-around nice guy.

Any help or information you can offer will be greatly appreciated!
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2009, 06:32 PM NHFT »

Congrats on the move!
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2009, 07:43 PM NHFT »

That's great. I hope you're more of an activist than a politico, but even that I still welcome you.

Hopefully we'll make a bunch of new friends with common interests. I'll send you a private message with my cell number. Call anytime.
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2009, 09:04 PM NHFT »

I tend to be better at the politico stuff than the activist. I am really good at understand laws, using the law against itself, thinking outside the box on how to achieve a goal, etc.

My skills are much better applied in a "polite" setting, versus the "pound on the door" method. Just my personal style.

Of course, I am not above "making an ass of myself", if the occasion calls for it.  ;D
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2009, 09:15 AM NHFT »

Let us know how / when / where so that we can help you move in.
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 04:18 PM NHFT »

Well, I will be there on the 25th, at noon.

Would love to have someone show me the area.

I also plan on making the Taproom that night.

Just really looking forward to meeting everyone.
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2009, 11:22 PM NHFT »

Welcome :)

Being a politcal operative means you're not an activist?

My thoughts exactly - many of the best activists in the state work in politics in some form or another. There are many forms of activism and reasonable minds can disagree on their relative merits but let's not disrespect all the political activists you call politicos. In my mind it's often the "outside the system" crowd that are less worthy of the term 'activist'. Hanging out at libertarian social events doesn't make you an activist and embarrasing the overall movement with childish, attention-grabbing acts of self-proclaimed civil disobedience makes you more of a detriment to the cause than anything else.        
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2009, 10:05 AM NHFT »

Welcome :)

Being a politcal operative means you're not an activist?

My thoughts exactly - many of the best activists in the state work in politics in some form or another. There are many forms of activism and reasonable minds can disagree on their relative merits but let's not disrespect all the political activists you call politicos. In my mind it's often the "outside the system" crowd that are less worthy of the term 'activist'. Hanging out at libertarian social events doesn't make you an activist and embarrasing the overall movement with childish, attention-grabbing acts of self-proclaimed civil disobedience makes you more of a detriment to the cause than anything else.        

That was even more disrespectful than the original post.   Makes me sorry I tried to stick up for you guys.
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2009, 12:47 PM NHFT »

Welcome :)

Being a politcal operative means you're not an activist?

My thoughts exactly - many of the best activists in the state work in politics in some form or another. There are many forms of activism and reasonable minds can disagree on their relative merits but let's not disrespect all the political activists you call politicos. In my mind it's often the "outside the system" crowd that are less worthy of the term 'activist'. Hanging out at libertarian social events doesn't make you an activist and embarrasing the overall movement with childish, attention-grabbing acts of self-proclaimed civil disobedience makes you more of a detriment to the cause than anything else.        

That was even more disrespectful than the original post.   Makes me sorry I tried to stick up for you guys.

exactly what has pushed me away.  These are the guys that like to talk about poisoning the well??   I remember asking the same question of two people when I first went to Social Sunday (the first one) and Taproom Tuesday.  I asked if they thought the other type of activism had a place in New Hampshire.

At Social Sunday, I was told that of course there's a place for political activism.  I was told that they believed that "only in NH could a group get together and work politically to get things done."

At Taproom Tuesday, I was told that the civil disobedience crowd were "scumbags" and that they were "ruining this movement with their silly games"

I'm not a mean spirited person at heart, I'm a jolly fat man.  I don't want to hang around with people who bitch about outside the system activists.  I want to hang out with people who make their own tea, build fires, and when they see a law that is unjust. . .they seek to disobey it instead of waiting 30 or 40 years to get it repealed.

Politicos are activists, and they work very hard.  I wanted to really come up here and be a part of both groups.  I wanted to be a help to the friendly people that might be my neighbors here.  Some things that were said at Taproom left such a horrible taste in my mouth that I haven't been back. . . I often am bored on Tuesday nights and I can't even FORCE myself to go. 
 
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2009, 04:01 PM NHFT »

Welcome :)

Being a politcal operative means you're not an activist?

My thoughts exactly - many of the best activists in the state work in politics in some form or another. There are many forms of activism and reasonable minds can disagree on their relative merits but let's not disrespect all the political activists you call politicos. In my mind it's often the "outside the system" crowd that are less worthy of the term 'activist'. Hanging out at libertarian social events doesn't make you an activist and embarrasing the overall movement with childish, attention-grabbing acts of self-proclaimed civil disobedience makes you more of a detriment to the cause than anything else.        

That was even more disrespectful than the original post.   Makes me sorry I tried to stick up for you guys.

Saying that reasonable people can disagree on the merits of both forms of activism is more disrespectful than implying that all political work is outside the realm of activism? Note that I only said "it's often the outside the system people that aren't the activists" and I certainly didn't label the entire civil disobedience crowd as "scumbags" per Anton's experience at the Taproom. If identifying some of the stunts as childish and attention-grabbing hurts somebody's feelings, tough, the average NH resident needs to know that the liberty movement is about much more than drugs, public nudity, and disorder/nihilism generally.

 

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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2009, 05:34 PM NHFT »

I'm not a mean spirited person at heart, I'm a jolly fat man.

...Santa?
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2009, 06:08 PM NHFT »

I think it will probably take a combination of both. I personally would rather just live free and expose the system for its violent nature as it prevents me from going about my day as a free person.

If people choose to work within the system I'm certainly not going to call them names or not associate with them. We disagree on how to get there but the goals are similar. I won't vote for them but if they believe they can help move us closer to a free society I wish them luck. It only took 70+ years to legalize marijuana for medicinal purposes in a handful of states.

I've tried the politico route and feel it takes too long just to make a small change here and there. I do however think the politico's will have a better chance at making a difference once the number of movers reaches in the 1000's. Hopefully they won't suggest using violence against me if I disagree with their policies.

The civil disobedience types inspired me and I hope my actions will inspire others. But rather than just go out and do my own ideas, I figured I'll try to gauge the public and see if there's a type of civil disobedience or peaceful non-cooperation that they'd support but maybe are too afraid to do it themselves.

Winning the hearts and minds is a start toward demonstrating that it's ok to stop being afraid which, in my opinion, is essential to truly live free.
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2009, 09:00 PM NHFT »

Welcome :)

Being a politcal operative means you're not an activist?

My thoughts exactly - many of the best activists in the state work in politics in some form or another. There are many forms of activism and reasonable minds can disagree on their relative merits but let's not disrespect all the political activists you call politicos. In my mind it's often the "outside the system" crowd that are less worthy of the term 'activist'. Hanging out at libertarian social events doesn't make you an activist and embarrasing the overall movement with childish, attention-grabbing acts of self-proclaimed civil disobedience makes you more of a detriment to the cause than anything else.       

That was even more disrespectful than the original post.   Makes me sorry I tried to stick up for you guys.

Saying that reasonable people can disagree on the merits of both forms of activism is more disrespectful than implying that all political work is outside the realm of activism? Note that I only said "it's often the outside the system people that aren't the activists" and I certainly didn't label the entire civil disobedience crowd as "scumbags" per Anton's experience at the Taproom. If identifying some of the stunts as childish and attention-grabbing hurts somebody's feelings, tough, the average NH resident needs to know that the liberty movement is about much more than drugs, public nudity, and disorder/nihilism generally.
 

some things you don't need to say to get the point across.  It's all about feeling welcome.   ;D
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2009, 06:46 AM NHFT »

what kind of job are you looking for
do you have wheels after you land?
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Re: And I am gonna' be right behind ya, BigMike.
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2009, 06:56 AM NHFT »

That's great. I hope you're more of an activist than a politico, but even that I still welcome you.

You must have meant to say political activist as opposed to a non-political activist.
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