William is a hate group

[Silent_Bob]

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=8324481&page=1


Fear for Obama's Safety Grows as Hate Groups Thrive on Racial Backlash
Violent Signs, Gun, Standoff Latest in Emerging Anger Towards the President
By BRIAN ROSS, ANNA SCHECTER and MEGAN CHUCHMACH

August 14, 2009—

Experts who track hate groups across the U.S. are growing increasingly concerned over violent rhetoric targeted at President Obama, especially as the debate over health care intensifies and a pattern of threats emerges.

The Secret Service is investigating a Maryland man who held a sign reading "Death to Obama" and "Death to Michelle and her two stupid kids" outside a town hall meeting this week. And in New Hampshire, another man stood across the street from a Presidential town hall with his gun on full display.

Los Angeles police officers apprehended a man Thursday after a standoff with him inside a red Volkswagen Bug car in Westwood, CA  the latest disturbing case even though officials said the man had mental problems.

"I don't think these are simply people who are mentally ill or off their rocker," Mark Potok, director of the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center, told ABC News of those behind the threats. "In a very real sense they represent a genuine reaction, a genuine backlash against Obama."

Experts say a sharp growth in so-called militia groups that helped spawn a wave of domestic terrorism in the 1990s  and are now using YouTube, rock music and the Internet to recruit members and spread hate and fear - shouldn't be ignored.

"It's certainly a scary time," said former FBI agent Brad Garrett, now an ABC News consultant. Garrett said the Secret Service "cannot afford to pass on anyone," and he believes "they really do fear that something could happen to [Obama]."

Garrett said statements like one recently made by controversial radio host Rush Limbaugh comparing a logo for the White House plan to a Nazi symbol "legitimizes people who are on the edge to go do something or say something."

"And if you go and take a look at this, you will find that the Obama health care logo is damn close to a Nazi swastika logo," Limbaugh said.

Later, someone painted a swastika outside the office of Congressman David Scott of Georgia, one of Obama's supporters.

Secret Service Security Around Obama

While officials told ABC News that the President's daily threat matrix has yet to reflect a sharp increase in threats, White House officials privately admit deep concern and have told the Secret Service to keep security tight, even if Obama objects.

"I think the president has, in effect, triggered fears amongst fairly large numbers of white people in this country that they are somehow losing their country, that the battle is lost," Potok told ABC News. "The nation that their Christian white forefathers created has somehow been taken from them."

Asa Eslocker contributed to this report.

[thinkliberty]

This is just the 'Southern Poverty Law Center' screaming there are bad people out there that hate you, GIVE us MONEY!! We will watch these people and report them to you.

Typical chicken little alarmist looking for government handouts.

[slim]

Wow from the pictures I have seen of William he did not look fat enough to be a group by himself, now I could be considered a group of 1 because I am so fat I have my own gravitational pull. I hate when I walk to close to a small object and it gets caught and begins to orbit me.

[Fluff and Stuff]

This may scare some Massholes from moving to NH.

[dalebert]

This may scare some Massholes from moving to NH.

William gave us a gift that just keeps on giving. 

[Puke]

Again I will ask how a sign that eludes alludes to the "Tree of Liberty" quote being construed as violent?
Why can the tyrant and the patriot not donate their blood via the Red Cross?

Seems those "reporters" (Or "opinion makers" as Obama calls them. http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=18858.0) have violence stuck on the brain.

[Sam A. Robrin]

Time for an appropriate sing-along!

Words to the title song of the 1957 Disney movie - Johnny Tremain and the Sons of Liberty:


Plant the seed in our homeland, boys. Let it grow where all can see.
Feed it with our devotion, boys. Call it the Liberty Tree.

It's a tall old Tree
And a strong old Tree
And we are the Sons
Yes, we are the Sons
The Sons of Liberty.

Save it from the storm, boys. Water down its roots with tea.
And the sun will always shine on the ole' Liberty Tree.

It's a tall old Tree
And a strong old Tree
And we are the Sons
Yes, we are the Sons
The Sons of Liberty.

March along with the piper, boys. We were born forever free.
Let's go pay the piper, boys, beneath the Liberty Tree.

It's a tall old Tree
And a strong old Tree
And we are the Sons
Yes, we are the Sons
The Sons of Liberty.

Pay the price they're asking, boys. Always pay the tyrant's fee.
Never give up the struggle, boys. Fight for the Liberty Tree.

It's a tall old Tree
And a strong old Tree
And we are the Sons
Yes, we are the Sons
The Sons of Liberty.

Stand for the rights of man, boys. Stand against all tyranny.
Hang the lamps of freedom, boys, high on the Liberty Tree.

It's a tall old Tree
And a strong old Tree
And we are the Sons
Yes, we are the Sons
The Sons of Liberty.

N' it will grow as we grow, boys. It will be as strong as we.
We must cling to our faith, boys- faith in the Liberty Tree.

It's a tall old Tree
And a strong old Tree
And we are the Sons
Yes, we are the Sons
The Sons of Liberty.

[KBCraig]

Great find, Sam!

[dalebert]

Ah, I finally know the tune. Maybe I can manage to sing along better the next time.

[Russell Kanning]

and they don't even know about the Free State Militia that is forming

[Pat K]

and they don't even know about the Free State Militia that is forming

Oh sure, I whisper to someone about the FSM and everyone tells me
SSSSSHHHHHHush. But Russell can just stick it up on the forum.

[Fluff and Stuff]

Flying Spaghetti Monster?  Oh no, did someone finally notice the logo on my car?

[Pat K]

Flying Spaghetti Monster?  Oh no, did someone finally notice the logo on my car?

The one that says =Don't follow me I'M drunk?

[Kat Kanning]

Again I will ask how a sign that eludes alludes to the "Tree of Liberty" quote being construed as violent?
Why can the tyrant and the patriot not donate their blood via the Red Cross?

Wow, that's quite a stretch.  The quote refers to violent revolution.  If you don't agree with violent revolution, then you ought not carry such a sign.

[KBCraig]

Again I will ask how a sign that eludes alludes to the "Tree of Liberty" quote being construed as violent?
Why can the tyrant and the patriot not donate their blood via the Red Cross?

Wow, that's quite a stretch.  The quote refers to violent revolution.  If you don't agree with violent revolution, then you ought not carry such a sign.

The quote refers to peaceful martyrs just as much as violent revolution. The means of shedding blood isn't specified, and "the blood of patriots" is more often spilled by tyrants, than the other way around.

The full quote, in context:

God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.