SWINE FLU?

[JohninRI]

The US predicts 90,000 deaths from swine flu this winter.  I checked South America to see if it had the same type of figures and below is what I found.

http://americas.irc-online.org/am/6316

South America's Swine Flu Winter

Tony Phillips | July 31, 2009
   


Americas Program, Center for International Policy (CIP)    
americas.irc-online.org

Just three weeks after the southern winter solstice, an already overloaded Argentine health service prepares for the second winter influenza peak expected in mid-July. Swine flu1 has flown south to winter in the southern cone; it has hit hard in Chile, Argentina, and Uruguay. Paraguay and Bolivia have also declared states of emergency.2 Argentina is the only country in the region in the "over 101 deaths" category, according to statistics from the World Health Organization.3

[littlehawk]

I just read where 50% of doctors won't take the vaccine. Whats that tell you? LOL Remember when they tried this with the smallpox vaccine? It was scrapped because healthcare workers didn't want to get jabbed. The forces of evil are back at it again and this time they might just pull it off. Sadly, they will target the school children with this toxic pus. Their evil plan is to start infecting people with the vaccine this fall.
Stay tuned.

Littlehawk

[Little Owl]

I hear a lot of distrust about vaccines but not a lot of specifics.  Could someone point me to why people think they're some evil bioweapon conspiracy (and please, no video links.  I have dial-up)

It seems to me that, conspiracy theories aside, the risks of this vaccine (especially when one considers the apparent rush to market) seem to outweigh the dangers of this flu which is apparently no more lethal than ordinary flu.  Why would I subject myself to this experimental drug, force or no force?

[Toadstool]

[AntonLee]

I'm not scared of Swine Flu.  I don't want to be stuck with a needle.  Hence why they will have to force me. 

[Ogre]

For Little Owl:

http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx

[Little Owl]

For Little Owl:

http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx

Thanks, but I visited this site, and although I didn't go through all of it, what I did see seemed like more vague paranoia than factual.  Is there any place that presents a well-reasoned, factually supported case justifying the fears so many people have?  I'm not talking about fears of side effects, which I too share.  I mean fears of a deliberate attempt to deploy these vaccines for some nefarious purpose.

I hear such accusations wielded frequently, but I don't see anything remotely resembling evidence.

[Ogre]

Sorry, can't help you there. I'm just not taking the vaccine because the vaccine is more likely to kill me than getting the flu.

[Little Owl]

I'm just not taking the vaccine because the vaccine is more likely to kill me than getting the flu.

With you 100% on that one.  A disease that "authorities" admit is no more dangerous than seasonal flu, a vaccine with little test history being rushed to market.  Sounds like a disaster in the making.

[Kat Kanning]

Take the shot, Little Owl, and tell us how it turns out for you.

[JohninRI]

17,000 documented cases in South America for the whole flu season and 185 documented deaths (maybe as high as 500 undocumented) is a far cry from a projected 90,000 deaths for the US.

I guess my paranoia kicked in when I read that the numbers were projected and announced by Homeland Security and not the Center for Disease Control.  Personally, I, nor any of my immediate family members have ever gotten a flu shot and have no intention to ever get one.

[Raineyrocks]

Now they're saying there is an even more severe strain of the Swine flu.  I'm still not getting their damn vaccine but this does scare me, thankfully not enough to be their puppet.
I did buy some vitamin D3 spray, (the kids won't swallow pills), yesterday. Perhaps, it will offer some immune system protection from what I've read.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/...-pandemic.html

Filed at 12:57 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Doctors are reporting a severe form of swine flu that goes straight to the lungs, causing severe illness in otherwise healthy young people and requiring expensive hospital treatment, the World Health Organisation said on Friday.

Some countries are reporting that as many as 15 percent of patients infected with the new H1N1 pandemic virus need hospital care, further straining already overburdened healthcare systems, WHO said in an update on the pandemic.

read full article above

[Little Owl]

Take the shot, Little Owl, and tell us how it turns out for you.

Didn't you read my post?  I have no intention of taking this shot.  Not because of some unsubstantiated plot against humanity, but rather because it seems the risks aren't worth the potential benefits.

Now they're saying there is an even more severe strain of the Swine flu

Oh bullshit!  Now THAT'S a conspiracy I believe.  Many ordinary people aren't taking this swine flu stuff seriously, so they have to ratchet up the fear.  These idiots need to justify their jobs.

[Pat McCotter]

Here is the fixed link for the NY Times article in rainey's post.

WHO Warns Of Severe Form Of Swine Flu

[Puke]

Smith's here in Keene got an order for 30mil syringes from the Health and Human Services bureaucracy.