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Author Topic: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?  (Read 2992 times)

Nat F

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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2009, 01:15 AM NHFT »

thanks Jerry .

 I just can not figure that out . Are you saying the taxes will be $2,256 this year and stay in that realm until it is developed ?


 Because a quarter acre here socialist Palos Hills Illinois has a tax of around $3,100 a year . If this is the case i need to buy sooner rather than later .

No, he's saying the annual property tax will be $38.17 until the property is developed (or otherwise moved out of current use).

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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2009, 03:14 AM NHFT »

Right, the current taxes are $38.17.

If you took the whole property out of current use and it was re-assessed at the sale price of $99,000 then the taxes would be about $1,700.

Of course once you build a house, install a well and septic system, driveway, etc., the assessment will go up by their value.
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2009, 02:48 PM NHFT »

 Thanks for the explanation's .

 The more I learn about the many ways the socialists who run the state steal from us here , the more I hate them .... I do not like to hate . I need to get out of here as soon as possible .
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2009, 06:43 PM NHFT »

What are the property taxes / gov rent on these two properties. I am leaning towards Grafton myself and may consider buying something before I move if the taxes were not to high. Property taxes make my head explode.  :BangHead:
The Prescott Hill property is assessed at $2,256 with taxes of $38.17
But you have to understand that it is in current use and the buyer must pay the fee for withdrawal.
Hmmmm....  what is this about "withdrawal"?  Is that "withdrawal" from extortion/theft taxes?
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2009, 07:24 PM NHFT »

What are the property taxes / gov rent on these two properties. I am leaning towards Grafton myself and may consider buying something before I move if the taxes were not to high. Property taxes make my head explode.  :BangHead:
The Prescott Hill property is assessed at $2,256 with taxes of $38.17
But you have to understand that it is in current use and the buyer must pay the fee for withdrawal.
Hmmmm....  what is this about "withdrawal"?  Is that "withdrawal" from extortion/theft taxes?


No, putting your property into the "current use" program is withdrawing from some of the taxes.  Taking land out of the program involves paying a fee.

I don't know the exact way it works here, but back in PA they had a similar program and withdrawing usually involved payment of all the monies that had been "saved" on reduced taxes while in the program.
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2009, 08:27 PM NHFT »

 Jerry is correct.  Current use is an effective way of avoiding paying a good deal of the property tax, but when you take the land out of "current use" the taxes that were deferred are due.   For instance raw land in a large parcel is often put in current use, but upon subdivison into smaller house lots the current use exemption is gone and the tax man smiles.

 I believe this might help...
  http://www.nhtoa.org/faq.html
 
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2009, 10:24 AM NHFT »

That's nice and all but we're fans of the non-tax thang.  Ya'all don't have to wait til we git up thar to quit the tax thang. ;)
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2009, 02:39 PM NHFT »

That's nice and all but we're fans of the non-tax thang.  Ya'all don't have to wait til we git up thar to quit the tax thang. ;)

Actually, we do.   We need a few more registered voters to repeal the high taxes.  So get a move on.
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2009, 04:07 PM NHFT »

That's nice and all but we're fans of the non-tax thang.  Ya'all don't have to wait til we git up thar to quit the tax thang. ;)

Actually, we do.   We need a few more registered voters to repeal the high taxes.  So get a move on.

God bless you Jerry!  Tom too!  Hope to see you guys REALLLY soon!
As soon as I get working again, we plan on buying ASAP but maybe not making the move right away.
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2009, 04:51 PM NHFT »

Kurt, you're planning on making the move to Grafton.

Rock. On. :)
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2009, 02:11 AM NHFT »

Thanks for the pointers.   :)

I researched the current use insidiousness and think it is reprehensible.  Nevertheless, they're doing it.

Witness the creation of the magical concept:

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"Current use value'' means the assessed valuation per acre of open space land based upon the income-producing capability of the land in its current use solely for growing forest or agricultural crops, and not its real estate market value.

The 10% tax assessed on the "full and true value" of the land when someone wants to do something greedy with it, like live on it, would probably classify in legalese as a windfall.  In other words, the government wasn't ever counting on it for purposes of budgeting.  The entire scheme seems to be a way to give "poor" NH landowners a break while sticking it to evil developers.  Pretty sad.
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2009, 07:34 AM NHFT »

   
  Outright ownership of Real Estate is forbidden.  The children won't allow it. 
 
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2009, 04:21 PM NHFT »

I just learned more about real estate in this thread than than I did during  16 years of public schooling . Why the hell didn't they teach me anything worth while ?
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2009, 08:59 AM NHFT »

Kurt, you're planning on making the move to Grafton.

Rock. On. :)
Who in their right (or wrong) mind wouldn't move to Grafton???
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Re: Anyone have a lead on land in Grafton?
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2009, 09:00 AM NHFT »

   
  Outright ownership of Real Estate is forbidden.  The children won't allow it.
Yes, ownership of "real estate" IS forbidden by those who wish to enslave you but ownership of "property" now that is a different bag...  allodial ownership!   ;D  MY FAVORITE!
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