You're not going to get laid. Inspired by Rogers Libertain Flash thread.

[Zero]

This is awesome.

[SethCohn]

don't do it near me or mine.

Which are "yours"?

Failure to understand personal property boundaries - Check.

In other words, my property, my house, events I organize, tables I sit at, etc.

Consider yourself unwelcome to interact, attend parties, etc.  If the "voluntaryist" solution to things is a reputation system, consider yourself to have been put on the shitlist, and shunned.

For whom do you speak?

Failure to understand the free market providing various competing DROs - Check.

In other words, if someone asks me for my opinion of you, I'll give it.  Plus the above.
The "open reputation system" has failed in the past, because people weren't willing to openly discuss the problem people.  Lots of folks would have been better off if people had discussed the issues with JP, Ryan, and the list goes on.

Perhaps it's time for a computerized DRO service.  Hmm, the free market wonders what that price would be worth to people?

[Pat K]

Ever notice that some folk never show up to just say hi or
anything positive.

Maybe their suffering from Posting Madness Syndrome?

[MaineShark]

don't do it near me or mine.

Which are "yours"

Failure to understand personal property boundaries - Check.

In other words, my property, my house, events I organize, tables I sit at, etc.

Interesting.  Other than your property and your house, those aren't necessarily under your control.  If you organize an event, but it's held on someone else's property, then the right to exclude others rests solely with the property-owner, not the event-organizer, unless explicitly delegated.

And you certainly can't homestead someone's table by sitting at it.

Joe

[SethCohn]

In other words, my property, my house, events I organize, tables I sit at, etc.

Interesting.  Other than your property and your house, those aren't necessarily under your control.  If you organize an event, but it's held on someone else's property, then the right to exclude others rests solely with the property-owner, not the event-organizer, unless explicitly delegated.

And you certainly can't homestead someone's table by sitting at it.

Joe

Joe, as usual, you try and split philosophical hairs, rather than focus on the real issue here.

If you want to be rude and sit down at a table you're unwelcome at, have at it.  Don't expect to be passed things, or talked to except to be asked to leave.
And staying at a private event where the organizer (vested with the owner's consent/control of the property) asks you to leave (or didn't invite you in the first place) is trespassing, isn't it?

[SethCohn]

Ever notice that some folk never show up to just say hi or
anything positive.

Hi Pat!

And I reacted to the negativity posted by some towards others.  Or should I have just ignored it, as so many have in the past, leading us further and farther down the path of things falling apart?

[Sovereign Curtis]

You know, Seth, this reputation indicator you talk about seems to have already been implemented here on NHUnderground. I speak specifically of the "karma". I have a pretty neutral karma. The "lady" I was speaking of has a VERY NEGATIVE "karma". And, of coarse, I'm no where near the first to call her out on her bullshit.

Was it the specific words I chose? Or was it me pointing out that she's the pot calling the kettle black?

[Tom Sawyer]

Maybe their suffering from Posting Madness Syndrome?

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN BY THAT!!!!

I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON A DONUT YOU FAT FUCK!!!!

[Lloyd Danforth]

 

[Pat K]

Maybe their suffering from Posting Madness Syndrome?

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN BY THAT!!!!

I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON A DONUT YOU FAT FUCK!!!!

Spit coffee all over, you Fucking Jar Head!

[SethCohn]

You know, Seth, this reputation indicator you talk about seems to have already been implemented here on NHUnderground.

Yes, karma on NHUnderground is a competing DRO system.  But its' got flaws too.  Why, I used to have a negative rating here, and now look it's over +1000.  Somebody (many of them?) must like me and what I have to say here.

As for why, if you don't understand by now... well, perhaps someone with (way) more patience than I have can edumacate you.

[Sovereign Curtis]

don't do it near me or mine.

Which are "yours"?

Failure to understand personal property boundaries - Check.

Consider yourself unwelcome to interact, attend parties, etc.  If the "voluntaryist" solution to things is a reputation system, consider yourself to have been put on the shitlist, and shunned.

For whom do you speak?

Failure to understand the free market providing various competing DROs - Check.

Lol, I ask for clarification and you assume I fail to understand (your theory) of personal property, and the free market (when I consider myself an Agorist...)

You know, Seth, this reputation indicator you talk about seems to have already been implemented here on NHUnderground.

Yes, karma on NHUnderground is a competing DRO system.  But its' got flaws too.  Why, I used to have a negative rating here, and now look it's over +1000.  Somebody (many of them?) must like me and what I have to say here.

As for why, if you don't understand by now... well, perhaps someone with (way) more patience than I have can edumacate you.

I'm sorry. What is it I'm supposed to understand? Whats the lesson I should have learned from your tantrum? Dont pick on people Seth likes? Even if they deserve it?

Wait wait. I know the lesson. Dont correct Seth's spelling/grammar/syntax/punctuation.

[MaineShark]

Joe, as usual, you try and split philosophical hairs, rather than focus on the real issue here.

Not really, no.  You asserted a right to exclude, which you didn't actually have.  That tramples on the rights of many others.  It's the sort of holier-than-thou attitude that is damaging the FSP, severely.  Speaking as a genuine Yankee, the exact sort whom you're supposed to be here to influence, if I were to stumble across that statement, I would be quite hard to convince of the FSP's good intentions, subsequently.

And the backstabbery and general infantile behavior of Tammy and some others?  Do you have any conception of how poorly that sort of behavior is viewed, around here?  When folks talk about "selling" locals on the FSP, that's like having your "salesman" show up drunk, unshowered, and cursing out the customers.

I've said from the beginning that the way to convince locals is to be good neighbors, before anything else.  I've said it repeatedly, over the years.  Some of y'all just don't seem to get it, and would prefer to stick with the same passive-aggressive nonsense that you dragged here from elsewhere.  It doesn't fly, here.  I agree fully with Kate that cursing out cops in front of kids is damaging.  Drunken campers tripping through others' campsites?  Definitely damaging.  But nothing is more damaging than the backstabbing, infantile behavior of a few individuals.  The former can be written off as "heat of the moment" behavior that the observer realizes might have been done differently, if the actor had thought things through.  Yankees tend to be rather reserved, in general, so we understand and allow for those sudden flare-ups when someone just can't keep emotions contained.

Cold, calculated attacks against others?  There's no such allowance.  If anything kills the FSP, that will be it.  That's the "real issue here."  It's the one that needs to be addressed.  And you (speaking to everyone reading this, who has or is planning to move to NH) need to decide what side of that issue you're going to be on.  Do you actually want the FSP to succeed, taking advantage of the climate of liberty that has been established here, and building upon it?  Or do you want to import the same mistakes that made the places you came from so worth leaving?

If you want to be rude and sit down at a table you're unwelcome at, have at it.  Don't expect to be passed things, or talked to except to be asked to leave.

And who gets to decide who is and isn't welcome?

And staying at a private event where the organizer (vested with the owner's consent/control of the property) asks you to leave (or didn't invite you in the first place) is trespassing, isn't it?

You didn't say "private," now did you?  A private event would contain the aforementioned authority to exclude, so your question is pedantic.

Organizing an event does not make it a private one.  It could be explicitly open to the public.  Or you could be organizing it on someone else's behalf, who did not grant you the authority to exclude others.

Your claims here seem to be that if you have in any way touched something, you have full rights to exclude.  That's not the case.  If multiple individuals are involved, whether or not you have such rights will depend upon the organization of the event/table/whatever.  Your rights end where someone else's begin.

Joe

[Friday]

You know, Seth, this reputation indicator you talk about seems to have already been implemented here on NHUnderground.

Yes, karma on NHUnderground is a competing DRO system.  But its' got flaws too.  Why, I used to have a negative rating here, and now look it's over +1000.  Somebody (many of them?) must like me and what I have to say here.

For the benefit of newcomers and intermittent comers, about a year ago J'Raxis wrote a script that punked the Underground's karma system by instantaneously adding over 1000 points to several people, among them yourself and MaineShark.  It's also a poorly kept secret that certain individuals smite certain other individuals every time they log in.  The karma system, in its current state, should not be used to make judgments about people, IMO.

[MaineShark]

It's also a poorly kept secret that certain individuals smite certain other individuals every time they log in.  The karma system, in its current state, should not be used to make judgments about people, IMO.

For further edification, if you go to your own profile, then click "modify profile" and "forum profile," you can see your positive and negative karma, under the box where you enter your signature.

For example, mine now stands at 3271 applauds, and 2319 smites.  That's a lot more informative than the sum of the two, as it will easily indicate which individuals may have been subject to karma manipulation.

I believe there's a way to set the forum to display that instead of the sum, under each individual's name.

Joe