Grafton ... top story

[Lloyd Danforth]

John's chances aren't going to hinge on the opinions or actions of anyone reading this forum.
I agree returning with the same URL is boring. I'm just getting started. I need material!

[Mike Barskey]

John's chances aren't going to hinge on the opinions or actions of anyone reading this forum.

Oh! Good. Then you'll agree there is no purpose to spamming this forum with his name or URL, or even with material once you get some.

[John]

Even though I have not read about half of this thread, it does seem to be getting kind of funny again so I think I'll jump back in for a while. Because I said "funny" you can then tell that I am sometimes quite easily amused.
This thread seems like a pretty crazy place to campain, but maybe I can help with some info about campaining?
#1 - Don't do this all the time:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Babiarz-for-NH-Governor-2010/143642412328392

[John]

If elected

#2 - Say WHEN elected.

[MaineShark]

John's chances aren't going to hinge on the opinions or actions of anyone reading this forum.

Unless someone sees a Babiarz sign, wonders who that is, and searches the Internet for him.  The more often his name is linked, the higher in the search results this thread will be.

If I hadn't seen this thread, I would have voted for him.  I've even encouraged others to do so, in the past.  This incident is literally what turned me from a strong supporter into a strong opponent.  If someone who behaves in such a petty manner is elected with the support of "the liberty community," it will be extremely bad PR for the whole movement.  That pettiness is pretty much my sole complaint against him.  Oh, he's a politician, and there are no doubt many issues on which we disagree, wholly or in part, but the petty behavior, and how it will reflect negatively on others, is what pushes him over the line.  We get enough of that from the Demoblicans and the Republicrats; we don't need to also get it from folks who will reflect negatively on us.

Which, of course, is why I'm pleased to hear that all Mike wants is to receive an apology, which costs nothing except pride.  A sincere apology would do wonders to eliminate the complaint I have with Babiarz, since it would show an ability to admit his mistake and own up to it, which is rather on the opposite side of the spectrum from "petty."  I would still have reservations, but I have reservations about the other folks running for office, too.

Everyone makes mistakes on occasion.  Such is life.  What's important is how we deal with those mistakes.  There's a manufacturer of heating components, which makes some very nice stuff.  In the three years since I started using their stuff, I only had one item fail.  That was a year and a half ago, and they still haven't warrantied the part.  Other manufacturers might have a slightly higher defect rate, but when you return a failed item within the warranty period, they send you a replacement, and usually pick up the shipping (which most warranties don't require them to do).  Guess who doesn't get my business...

What he did is a small fraction of the issue, from where I sit.  His behavior, after the fact, is far more critical.

Joe

[John]

They are just a pain in the ass for Fire Chiefs.

#3 - Say that It's not all about fire chiefs but that fire chiefs care about how things effect their citizens, (I've actually heard a N.H. fire chief refer to people as his citizens - No wait, maybe it was the state fire marshal who actually said that.) their victims, others, normal people.

[thinkliberty]

If John Babiarz is given power he will abuse it. His aggression against Barskey's at a weenie roast is proof of this.

He says one thing in his political campaigns, but when is in a position of authority, he hypocritically does another thing.

He is a typical politician that can't be trusted. People voting for him are no different than people who voted for Obama, because he would "change" things, even though his previous actions in the senate proved that he wouldn't change anything. 

John Babiarz is to liberty as Barack Obama is to change.   

Both feel no remorse when they abuse power, neither one has apologized for their actions.

[John]

John's chances aren't going to hinge on the opinions or actions of anyone reading this forum.

#4 - Say John B. wants as many votes as he can get and that he hopes to have the support of as many people as possible.


That's all I have for now. 

[BJ]

John Babiarz for Governor

[Lloyd Danforth]

Even though I have not read about half of this thread, it does seem to be getting kind of funny again so I think I'll jump back in for a while. Because I said "funny" you can then tell that I am sometimes quite easily amused.
This thread seems like a pretty crazy place to campain, but maybe I can help with some info about campaining?
#1 - Don't do this all the time:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Babiarz-for-NH-Governor-2010/143642412328392

I'm trying to cut back

[Lloyd Danforth]

John's chances aren't going to hinge on the opinions or actions of anyone reading this forum.

Oh! Good. Then you'll agree there is no purpose to spamming this forum with his name or URL, or even with material once you get some.

I'll probably just go ahead and do what I want when something occurs to me.

[AntonLee]

sweet idea, just as long as you don't aggress against someone. .. .not many would have a problem with it   .

[Russell Kanning]

I am not going to vote for John Babiarz unless he issues a public apology to Mike for aggressing against him.

were you planning on voting for him before
or is there someone else you were going to vote for?
or do you even vote for nh governor?

[Russell Kanning]

I have heard that the video was "propaganda"  and that somehow he was justified in killing the weenie roast.  I wasn't there, and I've seen the video as evidence of the aggression.

Perhaps the other side might want to stop in and let us who aren't in the know about their side of the story.  Until then, I see no reason not to believe that there was no danger of burning down all of New Hampshire's forest system starting with Grafton.

I guess since we are the only ones willing to talk about the incident .... we get the advantage

[Russell Kanning]

still no apology on there.

i don't think that is part of his campaign