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[BJ]

If it was me, the only worthy "apology" would be him resigning his position so he wouldn't be able to aggress against peaceful people anymore.

[AntonLee]

I have heard that the video was "propaganda"  and that somehow he was justified in killing the weenie roast.  I wasn't there, and I've seen the video as evidence of the aggression.

Perhaps the other side might want to stop in and let us who aren't in the know about their side of the story.  Until then, I see no reason not to believe that there was no danger of burning down all of New Hampshire's forest system starting with Grafton.

[Mike Barskey]

If Babiarz publicly acknowledges
1) that my fire was not unsafe,
2) that a permit would not have made my fire safer,
3) that he had permitted this same fire pit near the same structure for a different person in the past, and
4) that he aggressed against me (by putting my fire out despite my telling him that's not what I wanted) because a cop and/or the rules said so,
then I would accept him on my property again (as a peaceful person, not in the capacity to aggress).

If Babiarz also admits to aggressing against me and apologizes for it, I will consider him a better person, one who is confident enough to admit and/or learn from mistakes, and I would likely want to talk with him again socially - he will have earned some respect from me. But I would have to believe his apology meant that his actions would be different in a similar scenario in the future (i.e., that he *meant* his apology, and it wasn't just empty words); I'm not sure what it would take to convince me of this. Maybe I'd accept his apology but be very leery of him in the future, being cautious of his sincerity until I witness it in action.

[Lloyd Danforth]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Babiarz-for-NH-Governor-2010/143642412328392

[AntonLee]

still no apology on there.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Probably has never crossed his mind.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Babiarz-for-NH-Governor-2010/143642412328392

[AntonLee]

very telling.

[BJ]

I hope he's got a permit for his birthday cake candles.

[Lloyd Danforth]

If elected John will work to get rid of Fire Permits and the law that prohibits fires between 9 & 5. They are just a pain in the ass for Fire Chiefs.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Babiarz-for-NH-Governor-2010/143642412328392

[MaineShark]

If elected John will work to get rid of Fire Permits and the law that prohibits fires between 9 & 5. They are just a pain in the ass for Fire Chiefs.

If that is true, he should have no problem apologizing.  If he did so, he might even be able to ask Mike to help him with that goal.  Mike is, after all, in a position to describe how such things create needless antagonism.

Joe

[Lloyd Danforth]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Babiarz-for-NH-Governor-2010/143642412328392

[Mike Barskey]

That's the same link every time, Lloyd. Why are you spamming?

[Lloyd Danforth]

I'm campaigning for John. Gotta a problem with that?


http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Babiarz-for-NH-Governor-2010/143642412328392

[Mike Barskey]

I'm campaigning...Gotta a problem with that?

Yup: government isn't the solution to government. However, I respect your right to do whatever you want as long as you don't force others to. Campaigning is not forcing anyone (working for government is force, though).

Also, posting the same link again and again is mildly annoying. I guess if you won't stop and if it bothers me enough, I could just ignore you on this forum until elections are over.

Actually, you might want to rethink your campaigning tactic of spamming a forum with the same post over and over again. Even people who think government is the answer and who like John, might get annoyed at that barrage of spam. Perhaps a better tactic that saying his name loudly over and over again (which is equivalent to posting his URL over and over again in the middle of unrelated threads) would be to post only when it's relevant and customize each post to make a point. Well, maybe not: politics is a brainless my-team-vs-your-team activity, so maybe just shouting a name louder and louder is the way to go.



(my smiley represents that I'm posting this light heartedly, even though I believe what I posted).

[MaineShark]

Plus, search engines may point people to this thread, as a result of a link containing his name.

I guess it depends upon whether someone thinks this is good campaign material for him...

Joe