FSP Sedition

[Russell Kanning]

So has the fsp given into our demands yet?

[Dreepa]

So has the fsp given into our demands yet?

The FSP is only a bus to get 20,000 pro-liberty activists to move to New Hampshire, where they will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property.

Blah, blah, blah...

Baron are you recruiting people to move to NH?
Are you planning on moving to NH?

[president]

Dalton?

[Dreepa]

I have never and will never attempt to recruit statists to move.

I plan on making NH a seasonal residence this spring.

Have you recruited anyone?

[president]

Come on. You don't need a trailer park in NH. You just buy some land and put a trailer on it. Then you bus the bums in......
Freetowncampground.com.....

[Dreepa]

Have you recruited anyone?

I am not a Jehovas' Witness.

I am just wondering why you bash the FSP so much.

[president]

It probably has something to do with the way the FSP leadershits treated him.

[Dreepa]

It probably has something to do with the way the FSP leadershits treated him.

But I thought he said he wasn't a member.

[president]

He quit. If he didn't they probably would have kicked him out, or would have said they kicked him out.

[Lloyd Danforth]

This guy has some stuff wrong about the paid CEO thing. The FSP did want to pay the president (Amanda), but it never happend, as they never obtained the money.

OK a 501(c)4 must report earnings, but only if there are enough to report...

I don't see the benefit of paying someone like Amanda who has a full time job/is going to school as well. If you are going to pay someone to work in a basically 'volunteer' operation, then it had better be someone who can devote most of their time to the recruitment effort.
Seems that a PR person would be better.

It was never pay Amanda, it was pay the officers, and, suggested before Amanda was president.

[kater]

Dada and Mike,

I really appreciate what you said.  Criticism is one thing, and I try to take it well; what gets me really angry is repeatedly seeing either myself or my husband (whose time I feel I've partly donated to the FSP when I REALLY need his help on our house) on shit lists.  It's uncalled for.

I would willingly and happily work with either of you on any area of agreement, and I hope we get the chance. 

Thanks.
Kate

[Lloyd Danforth]

I don't see the benefit of paying someone like Amanda who has a full time job/is going to school as well.

Amanda quit her full time job so she could attend Harvard.

Does anyone know if Elaine(Amanda's daughter) is living with Amanda?

Email her and ask her.

I plan to, but I wanted to see if yall know first.

Never met her... in fact I have only met 2-3 people in the FSP

Lucky for him I am one of them.

[Russell Kanning]

Never met her... in fact I have only met 2-3 people in the FSP

Lucky for him I am one of them.

And I am another .... he must have a warped view of the fsp.

[Dreepa]

I don't see the benefit of paying someone like Amanda who has a full time job/is going to school as well.

Amanda quit her full time job so she could attend Harvard.

Does anyone know if Elaine(Amanda's daughter) is living with Amanda?

Email her and ask her.

I plan to, but I wanted to see if yall know first.

Never met her... in fact I have only met 2-3 people in the FSP

Lucky for him I am one of them.

Lloyd and Russell.........I like to start with the best and work my way down.
I need to meet Pat K and have a few beers with him.

[president]

This guy has some stuff wrong about the paid CEO thing. The FSP did want to pay the president (Amanda), but it never happend, as they never obtained the money.

OK a 501(c)4 must report earnings, but only if there are enough to report...

I don't see the benefit of paying someone like Amanda who has a full time job/is going to school as well. If you are going to pay someone to work in a basically 'volunteer' operation, then it had better be someone who can devote most of their time to the recruitment effort.
Seems that a PR person would be better.

It was never pay Amanda, it was pay the officers, and, suggested before Amanda was president.

It was pay for the president, and it was a FSP goal for 2004.
It was approved as a goal 02/15/04.....the same day Amanda became FSP president.
http://www.freestateproject.org/about/bod_minutes/15feb04.html

Mary Lou asked for this statement to be entered into the record:

    "For the record:Jason has asked me by email moments ago to make a statement 'Do you agree that the meeting is legal, or not?' Upon consideration, I have decided that I consider this meeting to be illegally called. A week means a full week, it was 8 hrs less than a full week. I consider that makes the legality questionable, particularly when it was set at a time that one BD member had indicated was impossible for her to attend. I spoke to this when Jason first called this meeting. There was no reason not to set the meeting at a time when all Board members could be present, particularly since the regular meeting was postponed at Jason's request to find a time when he could be present. I have therefore decided to NOT participate in this meeting, and consider any votes taken to be questionable, at best. I heartily recommend the meeting be re-called for the earliest time when ALL members can be present and questions of legality will not cloud the meeting."


A. Electing a President

  # Jason moved that Amanda Phillips be elected interim president and that the board needs to discuss the length of the term
  # Jean 2nd.
  # After discussion regarding the length of the term and removing the 'interim' portion of the title, Jason amended his initial motion to: "Elect Amanda Phillips president of the Free State Project for a term ending 12am on 16 August 2004.
  # Matt 2nd
  # After discussion, a motion to close discussion was made by Jason, 2nd by Jean, and agreed to with 3 in favor and 2 absent.
  # On the main motion, 3 were in favor, 2 absent. Motion passes.

B. High-Speed Internet Connection for President and Treasurer

  # Jason moved that the FSP offer free high-speed cable or dsl internet access to both the president and treasurer of the corporation.
  # Jean 2nd.
  # After discussion, a motion to close discussion was made by Jason, 2nd by Jean, and agreed to with 3 in favor and 2 absent.
  # On the main motion, vote was 3 in favor, 2 absent. Motion passes.

.....

F. Strategic Targets for 2004

  # Jason moved that the following strategic targets be adopted:

        * $40k, or half of cash raised this year, whichever is less, spent on publicity by the end of the year, including advertising, direct mail, sending speakers
        * $50K in the bank by the end of the year at the very latest (preferably by the end of June) to hire a full-time Prez at $50-$60K per year, maybe higher if we can get someone really good
        * A 501(c)(3) org is necessary to raise $90K by the end of the year
        * 7000 members by the end of 2004
        * a coast to coast local groups network, with every single member who has consented to distribution of his address info, etc. assigned to a group (they can choose whether or not to take advantage)
        * an automated member db with the ability of existing members to log in securely & edit their info, rendering most of Member Services' functions unneeded - by the end of April 2004 at the very latest

  # Matt 2nd
  # After discussion, a motion to close discussion was made by Jason, 2nd by Matt, and agreed to with 3 in favor and 2 absent.
  # On the main motion, vote was 3 in favor, 2 absent. Motion passes.

Isn't this about the time things started going down hill fast?