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FSP Sedition

Started by Friday, October 23, 2005, 01:23 PM NHFT

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Lloyd Danforth

I understand the best reason for not separating the hanging from the speakers, is that the hanging is what draws people to porcfest and you can't count on getting them back for 'just' a seminar.  It is the same theory the NHLA dinner works apon.
However, if ditching them in the future could make P'fest easier to organize and cheaper, it is worth considering.

kater

Duly noted, Lloyd.  Actually, my reasoning is that getting to know people *is* getting involved in a way; you start talking, find common ground, hatch a plan, and it goes from there.  I'd like to host a festival where that part of the socializing naturally bled into the more organized stuff, so you could chat with someone about how expensive public schools are and then head off together to a discussion of the NH situation or a primer on town meetings or challenging kinds of spending in court.  It should be all of a piece.

Russell Kanning

You don't have to plan that stuff. It just happens.

kater

Great, then my planning will just be icing on the cake. 

Friday

Quote from: CNHT on October 25, 2005, 11:34 AM NHFT
And in fact I think in NH it's illegal for a non-profit to have closed meetings! Let me check on the exact law on that...but I do believe a 501c3 must have open membership meetings at least.


:o  Let us know what you find out! 

Although the FSP didn't qualify for 501c3 status, so those who oppose open meetings could use that as a way to weasel out of them.

Dreepa

Quote from: Friday on October 26, 2005, 11:53 AM NHFT
Quote from: CNHT on October 25, 2005, 11:34 AM NHFT
And in fact I think in NH it's illegal for a non-profit to have closed meetings! Let me check on the exact law on that...but I do believe a 501c3 must have open membership meetings at least.


:o? Let us know what you find out!?

Although the FSP didn't qualify for 501c3 status, so those who oppose open meetings could use that as a way to weasel out of them.
They are a NV corp not a NH corp.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: kater on October 26, 2005, 11:26 AM NHFT
Great, then my planning will just be icing on the cake.
Sometimes planning ruins things

John

Quote from: katdillon on October 23, 2005, 03:16 PM NHFT
The Underground was formed out of frustration for the FSP leadership.? I viewed it as the only way to get things done, despite the leadership, so had to go "underground".



:-* :-* :-*  THANK YOU KAT!  :-* :-* :-*

But, I must say that this has to be the most open and above board "underground" I've EVER heard of.  :-*


John

Quote from: LeRuineur6 on October 23, 2005, 06:16 PM NHFT
So it's true then.? The FSP literally does nothing except for PorcFest.



And you missed it Mike.  And we missed you.  ;D

John

Quote from: The Baron on October 23, 2005, 07:11 PM NHFT
I think "we" should start out by agreeing to never persue any sort of tax-exempt status.



Oh my!  You would have us do things without asking "Mother may I"?   :o

president

http://www.freestateproject.org/news/items/BOD-Statement-11-01-05.php

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Statement by the Free State Project Board of Directors

As we pass the two year anniversary of the choice of New Hampshire as the Free State, and our four year anniversary as an organization, we have paused to take stock of our progress.

One of our longstanding goals has been to reach 20,000 signatures by the end of 2006. While not outside the realm of possibility, this goal now seems unlikely to be reached. The reason for this is apparently a much lower level of national media attention since the state vote in 2003. The good news is that our growth rate remains steady, that Free Staters are already moving to New Hampshire, and finally, that we think we can improve our media attention substantially in the coming months.

Armed with these facts, we decided to take stock of where we are and of what we need to do to move forward toward the extraordinary goal we all share ? a truly free society.

   1.

      First of all, we have dropped our goal of reaching 20,000 signatures by the end of 2006. While this was an informal part of the Project we recognize that some found this an important element of their commitment. We're requesting that people who thought this goal was essential to their participation contact us to let us know of their intentions.

      We are not setting a new goal for reaching 20,000, but we expect to increase our recruitment rate (more on that below) and reach that goal within a reasonable time frame.
   2.

      Our second decision is that changing the existing Statement of Intent is not warranted at this time. We considered allowing a variable or additional threshold for moving, but realized that moving sooner or at a lower threshold is possible without any new, complicating Statements of Intent. We can always revisit this issue at a later time, but it would be premature to make any fundamental changes now.
   3.

      Third, we recognize that the success of the Free State Project really depends on actual movers, and we are now actively encouraging all participants to move as soon as they are able. We are expanding our New Hampshire Information efforts and will provide focused help to liberty-minded movers on finding jobs, housing, and the right community to fit their needs. The more people move now, the sooner the freedom community will make an even greater difference in New Hampshire, and the more people will be willing to sign up and move. We want to increase the pace of that virtuous circle.
   4.

      Finally, the Board has decided to hire a public relations company for a specific project of developing local media stories. We will need your help to make these stories happen! Some of you will be hearing from us shortly. If you get a message from us about this project, please make yourself available. We are actively considering hiring a public relations firm on a permanent basis to help us improve our messages and create a consistently high level of excitement and interest. This strategy should help us increase recruitment dramatically, getting us ever closer to 20,000 and to liberty in our lifetime.


FSP Board of Directors
11/01/05

Michael Fisher

Quote from: president on November 01, 2005, 05:24 PM NHFT
? ? ? Finally, the Board has decided to hire a public relations company for a specific project of developing local media stories. We will need your help to make these stories happen! Some of you will be hearing from us shortly. If you get a message from us about this project, please make yourself available. We are actively considering hiring a public relations firm on a permanent basis to help us improve our messages and create a consistently high level of excitement and interest. This strategy should help us increase recruitment dramatically, getting us ever closer to 20,000 and to liberty in our lifetime.

When you can't imagine an alternative solution to a problem, throw money at it!

The NH Underground's massive PR campaign has cost a whopping... *drum roll*...

ZERO DOLLARS!!!   :o

Michael Fisher

Quote from: Scott Roth on November 01, 2005, 05:30 PM NHFT
Hiring a public relations company?????? How about having better relations with those who have already moved here...get their stories and use those to further the FSP cause?? Sounds like big government to me...

What?!  Quit complaining about the FSP!  *throws money at you*

CNHT

Quote from: Scott Roth on November 01, 2005, 05:30 PM NHFT
Hiring a public relations company?????? How about having better relations with those who have already moved here...get their stories and use those to further the FSP cause?? Sounds like big government to me...

Yes and you'd all better combine heads on those stories so as to be consistent and effective because the press will mangle anything they get. NHPR made it sound like the FSP was dead. Not so from this PR.

Russell Kanning

The FSP is dead ..... long live the fsp.