NH politicos kidnap newborn infant 'cause father is a member of "oath keepers"

[KBCraig]

not trying to defend the state in any manner but what gives with the same font/size in the entire letter but a change of size and it seems a bit bolder on that last paragraph.  Just strikes me as odd.

It does look different, but it also looks like a fax, and things typically get distorted when fed through a fax machine.

Also, I have to chuckle at the bureaucrat who redacted the baby's name on the first line of a document titled: RE: CHEYENNE IRISH.

[FreelanceFreedomFighter]

Back...

I've read/heard conflicting info on this, so I'll ask in case someone can shed some light...

#5 mentions the case for neglect involving 2 other children.

Questions:

Are those also J. Irish's children? (I believe so, but...)

Does anyone have any information on what those charges are about? (Evidently it was the previous unlicensed CCW charge against him. Sometimes, in those situations, the kids can still be left with the mother as long as the father finds some place to stay. I'm confused...)

Were those children taken away already? (I've read that they were with their other two children at home when they got this paperwork about baby Cheyenne... which suggests that the previous charges were BS...
but that's just open speculation on my part...)

Any enlightenment is appreciated...

[Kat Kanning]

John Irish and Stephanie Janvrin on The Alex Jones Show - Fri 10.08.2010 part-9

[karenijohnson]

http://www.infowars.com/government-seizes-newborn-baby-over-political-beliefs-of-parents/
free state project involved. Court hearing next thursday october 14, 2010 (APPROXIMATE)

What was supposed to be one of the most joyous occasions of their lives turned into a nightmare for John Irish and Stephanie Janvrin, after they were told by The Director of Security and the Head Nurse at Concord Hospital that their baby would be taken to be checked by the hospital pediatrician.

"They lied to us – they got us to allow them to take our daughter under false pretenses, we didn't even have a choice," said Irish.

When Irish tried to stop his daughter being taken, the baby was immediately wheeled out in a bassinet, after which Irish saw three men in suits accompanied by uniformed police officers as well as detectives and social workers. who proceeded to try to search Irish.

"They forced me to stand up, held my hands behind my back and patted me down," said Irish, before police told him they were taking the baby.

"My fiancé didn't even get any time to bond with the baby – they came in and stole our child," said Irish. The parents were given a couple of minutes with their daughter before being forced by police to leave the hospital. Irish was subsequently told that a "security officer" would follow his every move.

The affidavit in support of the decision to take the child, which has been verified by Oath Keepers, states, "The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers," confirming that political beliefs were, amongst other reasons, one of the primary factors behind the snatching of the baby.

Even if the additional reasons cited in the affidavit, which are unproven at this time, could be considered sufficient reason for the state to take the baby, the fact that political affiliations were even mentioned is a frightening indictment of how far the government's war on Americans who dissent against authority has advanced.

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"Regardless of the other allegations, it is utterly unconstitutional for government agencies to list Mr. Irish's association with Oath Keepers in an affidavit in support of a child abuse order to remove his daughter from his custody." writes Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes. "Talk about chilling speech! If this is allowed to continue, it will chill the speech of not just Mr. Irish, but all Oath Keepers and it will serve as the camel under the tent for other associations being considered too risky for parents to dare. Thus, it serves to chill the speech of all of us, in any group we belong to that "officials" may not approve of. Don't you dare associate with such and such group, or you could be on "the list" and then child protective services might come take your kids."

The parents were not even full members of the Oath Keepers organization, they were merely on a discussion list related to the group. This makes the case even more shocking – you don't even have to be directly associated with a group that the government deems to be a "militia" to have your baby stolen – you merely have to be involved in online discussions of issues relating to the constitution and freedom in America.

Irish's father's web page clearly states that he supports a "NON-violent, law abiding gathering of like minded Patriots," and that he is "AGAINST ANY acts of violence or illegal activity."

"The Sons of Liberty Riders does not endorse or tolerate radical, extreme, violent or racial postings," states the website.

The Oath Keepers organization is not a "militia," as the affidavit claims, it is merely a loose network of current and former military and law enforcement professionals who have sworn not to obey unconstitutional orders such as gun confiscation, warrantless searches and mass internment of Americans. The group is committed to non-violence.

If this case is allowed to stand it opens up a hellish future for free speech and political discourse in America. If parents live in fear of having their children stolen by the state because they criticize the government, the United States can rank itself amongst the worst dictatorships in history who invoked the threat of taking people's children if they spoke out against tyranny.

Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes has announced that a legal defense fund will be created to help Irish, and that the organization, "will actively pursue aggressive legal remedy and redress."

"We will assist in locating competent local legal counsel in New Hampshire and additional expert legal counsel from around the country in First Amendment and child custody law," wrote Stewart on the Oath Keepers website.

"There can be no freedom of speech, no freedom of association, no freedom to even open your mouth and "speak truth to power," no freedom AT ALL, if your children can be black bagged and stolen from you because of your political speech and associations — because you simply dare to express your love of country, and dare to express your solidarity and fellowship with other citizens and with active duty and retired military and police who simply pledge to honor their oath and obey the Constitution. It was to prevent just such outrageous content based persecution of political dissidents that our First Amendment was written."

Watch the video below in which John Irish describes what happened.

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[Kat Kanning]

Merged the two topic on this.

[jeremy2141]

I've met Johnathan at several Oathkeepers meetings.  He set up a few meetings with people running for office, meet and greet events.  He was acting as the NH Coordinator for Oathkeepers, and I went to a one of those events.  They have two other children, though I'm not sure he's their father.  The state didn't take the other children.  I know he open carries pretty much 24/7 and has had problems with police coming to investigate his open carrying.

[Tom Sawyer]

Concord Hospital protest against baby kidnap (video) Examiner.com

Oppression By Oath

[jeremy2141]

Apparently I was wrong.  They had already taken the other children.  Based on allegations.

[dalebert]

"NH politicos kidnap newborn infant 'cause father is a member of "oath keepers"

Are bureaucrats now being referred to as politicos?  That's confusing.

[Tom Sawyer]

Concord Monitor article
Couple: State took our baby
Libertarians turn out for protest

[thinkliberty]

"NH politicos kidnap newborn infant 'cause father is a member of "oath keepers"

Are bureaucrats now being referred to as politicos?  That's confusing.

I believe the Irish baby was kidnapped for political reasons, which is why the oath keeper's were called a "militia" in the court order. This kidnapping was political in nature, not just bureaucratic.

Bureaucrats are paid to do things by politicos who need to be held accountable for the laws they pass. Some people believe that politicos deserve a free pass for promoting violence, but I don't believe in giving anyone executive, legislative or judicial immunity.

[karenijohnson]

DAVID TAYLOR is the "current" legal husband of Stephanie... baby 'presumed' to be fathered by David Taylor.
Stephanie is not divorced from David Taylor. (from on camera statement of IRISH during protest about middle of Youtube clip posting.

There was "fuss" at the hospital about putting "IRISH" as father on the birth certificate.

[karenijohnson]

WMUR.com
http://www.wmur.com/news/25340240/detail.html
Couple Say NH Took Newborn, Paperwork Cites Father
State Takes Custody Of Couple's Newborn Girl

POSTED: 3:00 pm EDT October 9, 2010
UPDATED: 3:13 pm EDT October 9, 2010
CONCORD, N.H. -- A New Hampshire couple said their newborn girl was taken from them by the state because of the father's involvement in a national group that's against unrestrained federal authority. The state says he's accused of hitting the mother and abusing her children.

Stephanie Taylor and Johnathan Irish of Epsom, who protested with others outside of Concord Hospital on Friday, say their baby was taken into custody.

Taylor says her two sons were removed from her care in 2009 because of abuse by a caretaker.
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Irish denies any abuse. He said court paperwork cited his involvement with the Oath Keepers.

Child protection matters are confidential. But Lorraine Bartlett with the Division For Children Youth And Families said a child cannot be removed based on a parent's affiliation with an organization.

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[karenijohnson]

http://www.wmur.com/news/25332217/detail.html

Bomb-Sniffing Dogs Check Hospital During Protest
Demonstrators Protest After DCYF Seizes Newborn

POSTED: 6:14 pm EDT October 8, 2010
UPDATED: 12:12 am EDT October 9, 2010
CONCORD, N.H. -- FBI bomb-sniffing dogs were at Concord Hospital on Friday after demonstrators gathered to protest a newborn being removed from her mother's care by the state.

The hospital said there was no threat made, but it was taking precautions in part to reassure staff and patients.

The child was taken by the Department of Children Youth and Families. The hospital said privacy laws prevent it from discussing the matter.

The FBI left the hospital without finding anything threatening, and the hospital said it is operating normally.

Stephanie Taylor said her infant daughter Cheyenne was taken into state custody. Taylor said she had two young sons removed from her care in 2009 due to abuse by a caretaker.

The father, Johnathon Irish, said court paperwork cited his involvement with an organization called the Oath Keepers, dedicated to defending the constitution.

While state officials cannot talk about this case, Lorraine Bartlett with the Division For Children Youth And Families said a child cannot be removed based on a parent's affiliation with an organization.

[Free libertarian]

Somewhere George Orwell is saying, "see I told ya".