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NH politicos kidnap newborn infant 'cause father is a member of "oath keepers"

Started by thinkliberty, October 07, 2010, 06:10 PM NHFT

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karenijohnson


Oathkeeper Baby back with parents >> Breaking News: John Irish's Baby Cheyenne Returned to Family!! - Alex Jones Tv 1/2

Breaking News: John Irish's Baby Cheyenne Returned to Family!! - Alex Jones Tv 1/2

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/220423/baby-returned-to-epsom-couple

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Irish Family Baby Returned
http://www.infowars.com/irish-family-baby-returned/print/

Posted By kurtnimmo On October 14, 2010 @ 9:08 pm In Featured Stories | 89 Comments

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
October 14, 2010

Jonathan Irish appeared on the Alex Jones Show this evening and said his infant daughter, Cheyenne, was returned to him and his fiancé, Stephanie Taylor. The state of New Hampshire, citing neglect, had abducted the newborn at the Concord Hospital.

Irish expressed his gratitude for the return of his daughter but said he was not at liberty to divulge details on the release due to a court gag order.

Irish told Alex Jones that his name was confused with that of another man with a similar name. The second man apparently has a record of domestic abuse and violence.

A court affidavit stated Jonathan Irish's association with the Oath Keepers as one of the primary reasons the child was taken. "The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers and had purchased several different types of weapons, including a rifle, handgun and taser," the affidavit states.

The Oath Keepers was founded in March of 2009 in in Lexington, Massachusetts. The nonprofit organization advocates that its members, who are current and former U.S. military and law enforcement officers, uphold the Constitution of the United States should they be ordered to violate it. The Oath Keepers organization is not a militia as the court affidavit and corporate media insist.

After Cheyenne was abducted by New Hampshire's Division of Children, Youth and Families, authorities prevented Jonathon Irish from seeing his child. Authorities cited "security threats" as the reason for blocking visitation without explaining precisely what those threats were. Irish, his fiancé Stephanie and Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes appeared on the Alex Jones Show on October 11 to discuss this violation of basic visitation rights.

    * A d v e r t i s e m e n t
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On Friday, October 8, the FBI sent bomb-sniffing dogs into Concord Hospital to intimidate people who had gathered to protest against the snatching of a baby by the DCYF.

On October 13, Stephanie Taylor voiced concerns when she discovered blood in her baby's diaper during a supervised visit at the at a Strafford County administration building. After authorities determined there was "no indication of any abuse," the child was returned to foster care.

Will Bunch, writing for the Soros funded Media Matters for America, led a corporate media campaign to demonize Irish and characterize as a "bizarre right-wing campaign" the effort to have the child returned to her parents. Bunch writes that "the evidence is overwhelming that the girl was taken from Irish and the mother Stephanie Taylor at the hospital for the only reason that the government should take that extreme step: To ensure the safety of an otherwise helpless child."

Bunch's assertion that CPS agencies protect children is at odds with the record. As the late Nancy Schaefer has documented, "child protection services" around the country have a record corruption and are often detrimental to the health and well-being of children. CPS agencies often act as legalized kidnapping services.

Now that the court has admitted that the child was taken in error and Jonathan Irish is in fact not an abusive father and the authorities had either confused or deliberately associated Irish with the behavior of another individual, Mr. Bunch and Media Matters should immediately apologize for slandering Irish, Taylor, and Alex Jones.

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Media Matters, however, will likely not apologize or set the record straight because this obviously conflicts with its agenda to demonize the growing patriot movement and portray constitutionalist groups like Oath Keepers as paranoid right-wing extremists.



Kurt Nimmo edits Infowars.com. He is the author of Another Day in the Empire: Life In Neoconservative America.

Article printed from Infowars: http://www.infowars.com

URL to article: http://www.infowars.com/irish-family-baby-returned/


karenijohnson


No solution will satisfy all

FROM comments portion::
http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/220423/baby-returned-to-epsom-couple?page=0%2C1
By Gaia - 10/15/2010 - 11:06 am

There are clearly two camps here - those who feel the parents did absolutely nothing wrong, and are thrilled that the baby was returned - and those who feel DCYF did the right thing and are now afraid for the child's safety.

From what I've seen in the news, I can assume that the DCYF brought it's petition to court and one of the following happened:
1. The Division withdrew its petition (doubtful, given the history with the other kids).
2. The court dismissed the petition (in which case it's the court's decision to send the child home, not the DCYF's.)
3. The parties agreed (or the Court ordered) that the baby go home, with continued monitoring by the DCYF.

I suspect we haven't heard the last, and I pray for the child's safety at home. I hope that the Court didn't dismiss the case out of hand, and that there will be continued monitoring at the very least.

Dave Ridley


Free libertarian


Sheep Fuzzy Wool

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010130042][url]http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010130042[/url]
The Will Bunch article.
Some good comments on this link.

Had to dust off the wool because this story on this thread is so bizarre, how it unfolds.

Keep up the great work.

You all in NH are becoming heroes and inspiration to the rest of the US of clink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clink .


Dave Ridley


Dave Ridley


karenijohnson


Alex Jones pushing bizarre right-wing campaign to return baby to allegedly abusive dad
http://mediamatters.org/print/blog/201010130042

October 13, 2010 5:13 pm ET - by Will Bunch

Paranoid politics, which has flourished in the Obama era, can lead people in some strange directions. I can find no better example than this: Tomorrow, a large crowd of protesters mostly affiliated with the Oath Keepers, a network of ex- and current military and law enforcement formed amid the radical right-wing backlash to the Obama presidency, will rally outside a New Hampshire courtroom.

Their mission?

To get a newborn baby girl released to a couple in which the father is accused of  a "lengthy history of domestic violence" that includes sworn allegations from a judge that the dad -- Johnathon Irish of Epsom, N.H. -- is "the main suspect" in bruises found in an older child that was recently taken from the mother of Irish's newborn daughter.

The civil rights plight of Johnathon Irish isn't exactly the Selma-to-Montgomery march, is it? But this bizarre story is a pretty good metaphor for the age of paranoia in our current 21st Century breakdown. The Oath Keepers, an organization that didn't exist when Obama became president in  January 2009, has largely used the Internet to rapidly recruit thousands of new members -- there are currently 23,289 members in its Facebook group -- to a group whose main credo is promising NOT to do things that aren't going to happen anyway, conspiratorial ideas that are mostly bat-guano crazy. The Oath Keepers' list of 10 orders they won't obey includes, most famously, "We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps."

OK, so they won't do that, but they will march tomorrow to outside a Family Court hearing for an allegedly abusive father, in what ironically will be the most pro-active thing -- other perhaps than spearheading a pro-gun march on Washington earlier this year -- that the Oath Keepers have done in their 18 months of existence. It's appropriate, in a way, because their approach to the Johnathan Irish case is rooted in the same muddled and potentially dangerous thinking that leads them to believe that the federal government is about to round up law-abiding citizens into concentration camps.

Irish is a member of the Oath Keepers, and because the affidavit filed by child protective services officials in New Hampshire mentions that tie and mistakenly describes the group as "a militia" (more on that later), the Oath Keepers have labored to make the story a case of a baby taken from a couple because of the dad's politics. Nothing could be further from the truth -- the evidence is overwhelming that the girl was taken from Irish and the mother Stephanie Taylor at the hospital for the only reason that the government should take that extreme step: To ensure the safety of an otherwise helpless child.

According to the Concord Monitor newspaper, here's the primary reason the newborn was taken from the parents hours after she was born on Oct. 2:

    tate officials took the child because of Irish's long record of violence and abuse. According to the affidavit, a judge determined that Irish abused Taylor's two other children. She is still married to the father of those children, though Taylor said yesterday that her husband has refused to accept her divorce petition for the past two years.

    The affidavit also says that the police in Rochester report a "lengthy history of domestic violence" between Taylor and Irish, and that she accused him of choking and hitting her on more than one occasion. According to the document, Irish failed to complete a domestic violence course as ordered by the state, and that a hearing was held last month to terminate Taylor's parental rights over her two older children.

But paranoid politics entered the fray because the affidavit also included this:

    The affidavit also states that Irish is "associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers and had purchased several different types of weapons including a rifle, handgun and Taser."

Soon, Oath Keepers were widely circulated a redacted version of the affidavit regarding the parents which included the reference to their group -- but omitted the more serious allegations against Irish. The word spread with a big assist from one of the biggest conspiracy-mongers in the talk radio universe, Texas-based and nationally syndicated Alex Jones. Now, the Oath Keepers' founder -- a former aide for Rep. Ron Paul's 2008 presidential campaign named Stewart Rhodes -- is using the controversy to rally the troops.

Frankly, it was arguably shoddy work by the New Hampshire authorities to reference the Oath Keepers, especially in the fashion that they did. I reported extensively on the group for a chapter in my recent book "The Backlash," and the Oath Keepers are certainly not "a militia" in that it doesn't carry out any kind of paramilitary training or drills; instead, it is a group that holds dangerous and delusional ideas about American politics, but ideas that are legal to express. As for Irish's weapons' purchases (A Taser? Really?), I think you could argue that these are relevant in connection with his other violent activities.

Most importantly, the references to the Oath Keepers and Irish's weapons are minor events in the context of his alleged violent behavior toward women and children. The Oath Keepers are not the reason the baby was taken from the couple. But what an apt metaphor for what the Oath Keepers and some of the more extreme right-wing groups that have risen up in the anti-Obama backlash are all about -- blind to the bigger picture of what is going on, focused on the small screen of disconnected conspiracies that plays into their misguided and apocalyptic view of America.

As the 1960s historian Richard Hofstadter wrote about the paranoid style in American politics, "[t]he paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms -- he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization."

It's just tragic when a baby girl gets caught behind those barricades.

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thinkliberty

QuoteJameson has a policy of testing all maternity patients for drugs and requires its staff to notify LCCYS of a positive drug test. Neither practice is required by federal or state law. According to the hospital's policy, a screen is considered positive for opiates at 300 nanograms/mL or above.

This is why you shouldn't go to a hospital to give birth.

Find a midwife that won't ask the state to steal your newborn baby (because you ate a Dunking Donuts bagel) and give birth at home.

It's safe:
http://www.americanpregnancy.org/labornbirth/homebirth.html

MaineShark

Quote from: jerryswife on October 29, 2010, 11:48 AM NHFThttp://www.aclupa.org/pressroom/aclupafileslawsuitonbehalf.htm

I seem to recall a case in NH where DCYF harassed a mother because she tested positive for opiates in a blood test at the hospital... after the hospital injected her with morphine.

Joe