NH politicos kidnap newborn infant 'cause father is a member of "oath keepers"

[KBCraig]

http://www.wmur.com/news/25332217/detail.html

CONCORD, N.H. -- FBI bomb-sniffing dogs were at Concord Hospital on Friday after demonstrators gathered to protest a newborn being removed from her mother's care by the state.

The hospital said there was no threat made, but it was taking precautions in part to reassure staff and patients.

And just as a bonus, it serves to further vilify the parents and their political associations.

The comments in the mainstream news are infuriating. So many people assume that if DCYF has stepped in, they must be horrible people and horrible parents and DCYF only does what is best for the children. If people only knew!

[LordBaltimore]

He said he was unemployed and collected disability because he is blind in his left eye from a childhood accident.

I thought you had to be in the military or police to join Oathkeepers.

[KBCraig]

He said he was unemployed and collected disability because he is blind in his left eye from a childhood accident.

I thought you had to be in the military or police to join Oathkeepers.

From their bylaws:

Section 8.01. Membership:

(a) Member: Membership is available to those individuals who are current serving or retired military, reserves, National Guard (including Air National Guard), and veterans; as well as current and former police and fire-fighters. Provided, that no person who has been convicted of treason or felony in any state or territory of the United States, or dishonorably discharged, unless restored to civil rights; and no person who has been adjudicated mentally incompetent, unless restored to legal capacity, shall be entitled to be a member.

(b) Associate Member: Associate Membership is available to those citizens who have not served in any capacity listed in subsection (a) above, who support our mission and take an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Provided, that no person who has been convicted of treason or felony in any state or territory of the United States, unless restored to civil rights; and no person who has been adjudicated mentally incompetent, unless restored to legal capacity, shall be entitled to be an Associate Member.

Section 8.02. Restrictions on Membership:

(a) No person who advocates, or has been or is a member, or associated with, any organization, formal or informal, that advocates the overthrow of the government of the United States or the violation of the Constitution thereof, shall be entitled to be a member or associate member.

(b) No person who advocates, or has been or is a member, or associated with, any organization, formal or informal, that advocates discrimination, violence, or hatred toward any person based upon their race, nationality, creed, or color, shall be entitled to be a member or associate member.

(c) Oath Keepers reserves the right in it's sole discretion, to withhold, deny, or revoke the membership or associate membership of any person whom Oath Keepers determines will dilute, impair or disrupt Oath Keeper's mission, dishonor, or in any manner bring ill repute to Oath Keepers.

[Dave Ridley]

NH: Activist seized, baby seized (Oath Keepers, Bradley Manning)

[Tom Sawyer]

So who is doctoring documents the Alex Jones folks or Jonathan Irish?

Also a story from 2003 regarding Jonathan Irish
Seabrook teen jailed after school threat

First version of the document


Actually from two documents

From a separate document

[Kat Kanning]

Alex Jones seems to have pulled the story.  Maybe that's why.

[Dave Ridley]

"Oath Keeper Baby" parents answer critics

"Oath Keeper Baby" parents answer critics

[Dave Ridley]

The image I photographed of the infamous "page 3" which Mr. Irish showed me today.

[Tom Sawyer]

(rotated and resized)

[karenijohnson]

17 year old Jonathan Irish (in 2003) School Death Threat Arrest and Story
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http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2003news/09012003/news/47841.htm

Seabrook teen jailed after school threat

By Associated Press

HAMPTON - A Winnacunnet High School student was accused of making violent threats against the school and was being held in jail without bail.

Jonathan Irish, 17, of Seabrook, who was to begin his senior year Wednesday, is charged with criminal threatening.

Court records say Irish told another teenager he was "going to bring guns to school, hide them in the woods and bathrooms, and kill anyone he wanted."

According to the arrest warrant, the other teen believed what she was being told and "feared for her life."

District Court Judge Francis Frasier ordered Irish held without bail at the Rockingham County jail, pending a psychiatric evaluation to help determine if he is a threat to himself or others.

Asked if he thought Irish is a threat to the community or himself, police Sgt. Jim Jiguere said, "That's why he's being held on no bail."

Irish will appear next in court on Sept. 24.

Police did not disclose whether any weapon was found.

Irish's mother would only acknowledge that her son was arrested.

Winnacunnet High School Principal Ruth Leveille said a letter was sent to parents Friday, telling them about the situation.

Ashley Stoddard, of North Hampton, a 15-year-old Winnacunnet sophomore and a friend of Irish, said she was "very surprised" to learn of the arrest.

Stoddard said Irish looked "so scared" during his court appearance, and she called it "the saddest thing I ever saw."

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Portsmouth, NH     Monday, September 1, 2003

[Dave Ridley]

"Oath Keeper Baby" fam shows controversial document (New Hampshire)

"Oath Keeper Baby" fam shows controversial document (New Hampshire)

[karenijohnson]

Folks:: be careful of IRISH baby-snatching case...

there are beginning "cracks" in the story of Jonathan Irish

a) the 'PAGE three' hi res photo talks of ms.taylor/Jon Irish violence and TRO and hospital visits (top of page)
  link:
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21410.0;attach=6278

b) Younger Jonathan Irish arrested for DEATH threats as 17 year old (Juvenile court) Associated Press Story
http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2003news/09012003/news/47841.htm

c) Uncompleted Irish COURT ordered 'classes' would result from a 'conviction' of violence.

d) Page 3 (or otherwhere) : Stephanie Taylor 'bought' the gun for Irish (why could he not?)

e) Affidavit "says" that Stephanie "dropped" (means she DID GET) a TRO Restraining order against IRISH.


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Oath Keepers plan to spend money helping these people and protest.

THE LINK to oath keepers might be "in passing" of the kinds of people that also have access to guns and things..
also remember not too many people "buy" tasers for personal use...


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More links about previous arrests of IRISH>>
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/to-those-running-with-the-oath?commentId=2600775%3AComment%3A2825249&xg_source=activity
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Sorry to inform you, but this high school incident was in 2004 at Irish's age of 17, he was held without bail again in 2005 at age 18 for sexual assault and drug /weapons charges, then arrested several more times up to 2010 and now at his adult age of approx 23. Irish was 17 in 2004, 18 in 2005, and of course now, he is much older than when his juvenile age of 17 in this report.
The links are on the first page of this discussion to his arrests. His address is listed on a few of the reports, SAME GUY, SAME ADDRESS!
Here is the one from 2005 when he was 18...Fri. March 25, 2005 . http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2005news/hampton/03252005/news/71...

Here is one from 2007---http://archive.seacoastonline.com/news/hampton/02022007/announcemen... 3 years later-Jonathan Irish, 20, was charged with possession of a controlled drug, possession of a concealed weapon, and violation of bail.(Bail??????????? for^^^^^^^^^prior arrests.)

Next, another one from 2005,,,
http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2005news/hampton/07292005/police_...
Jonathon Irish, 18, was charged with operating after suspension, false registration/inspection sticker and unregistered motor vehicle, after a motor-vehicle stop on Lafayette Road at 10:50 a.m.
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[Dave Ridley]

Officer used force to quell recording, says "Oath Keeper Baby's" mom

Officer used force to quell recording, says "Oath Keeper Baby's" mom

[KBCraig]

Folks:: be careful of IRISH baby-snatching case...

there are beginning "cracks" in the story of Jonathan Irish

No one has ever claimed (and I doubt anyone believed) that Irish is a saint. Citing a DCYF affidavit doesn't have much value, because it's their credibility and motives that are being questioned in the first place.

Irish has a history of being charged with crimes, but has he been convicted of any?

[Tom Sawyer]

Ridley's interview shows the guy to be evasive and kind of squirrelly. The doctoring of the document brings into question credibility.

I guess these things are like when the ACLU ends up taking up the cause because of the legal precedent... even though the person is clearly a bad guy.

To me the moral of the story is, don't call the cops, the woman used the system to protect herself from him and ended up losing her kids.

All that said, the social worker attitude is that guns are bad... men are bad... let's build a case that justifies taking their child.