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Started by Kat Kanning, November 04, 2005, 08:14 AM NHFT

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hankster

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He was a Georgist...having grown up in Arden, Deleware (1905) a Georgist single tax/land trust community.

The "Landlord's Game" became "Monopoly" and was invented to teach the world about economic rent...

1883 - Born into a wealthy Pennsylvania family, Morris Run
1900 - Introduced to "the Landlord's Game" by Lizzie Magie; later taught the game to students at the University of Pennsylvania
1906 - Joined economics faculty, University of Pennsylvania
1915 - Excerpt, Land as a Factor of Production: Rent as a Return to Land, from the book, An Examination of the Returns for Services Rendered and From Property in the United States
1916 - Joined faculty, University of Toledo; discharged the following year
1916 - His personal papers wre seized by the U.S. Justice Department, and he was charged under the Espionage Act for opposing the war
1917 - Joined Socialist Party
1917 - Pamphlet, Madness, on the causes of war; the writing of this pamphlet prompted his dismissal by the University of Pennsylvania
1927 - Joined Communist Party, but resigned in 1930 over disputes with Leninists
1930 - Traveled to Europe, returning in 1933 after Hitler came to power
1954 - Book, Living the Good Life: How to Live Sanely and Simply in a Troubled world
1961 - Book, Freedom: Promise and Menace -- A Critique of the Cult of Freedom, published
1976 - Photograph
1980 - Photograph
1983 - Died, age 100
1980s - Comment on Nearing by Eliot Coleman (Harborside, Maine): "As a disciple of economist Henry George, Scott Nearing didn't believe in unearned increment such as making money from real estate."


http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/nearing-scott_on-rent-and-land.html

Lex

Quote from: hankster on December 04, 2005, 07:40 PM NHFT
He was a Georgist...having grown up in Arden, Deleware (1905) a Georgist single tax/land trust community.

I know, I just read two chapters basically dedicated to socialism in his book (chapters 6/7 in Living The Good Life). I ignore that part ;-)

hankster

Quote from: eukreign on December 04, 2005, 08:05 PM NHFT
Quote from: hankster on December 04, 2005, 07:40 PM NHFT
He was a Georgist...having grown up in Arden, Deleware (1905) a Georgist single tax/land trust community.

I know, I just read two chapters basically dedicated to socialism in his book (chapters 6/7 in Living The Good Life). I ignore that part ;-)

socialism is generally the collective ownership of the means of production land, labor, capital.

I am for the absolute private ownership of labor and capital (stored labor)

and

the absolute private ownership of all the bundled ownership rights of land (use, possession, exclusion transferability) less one - the economic rent which must remain owned in common (an INDIVIDUAL equal access property right) so that absolute property rights to labor of the excluded are upheld.

collective ownership rights are group (not individual) right where you MUST get the consent of ALL the other owners (or their delegated authority - the state) PRIOR to use and they can dictate terms and conditions of use whereas common ownership rights means the individual does NOT have to get prior permission before use and the state's sole role is to insure an individuals use does not infringe on the equal access opportunity rights of anyone else.

they are actually exactly opposite 

Lex

Quote from: hankster on December 04, 2005, 08:25 PM NHFT
Quote from: eukreign on December 04, 2005, 08:05 PM NHFT
Quote from: hankster on December 04, 2005, 07:40 PM NHFT
He was a Georgist...having grown up in Arden, Deleware (1905) a Georgist single tax/land trust community.

I know, I just read two chapters basically dedicated to socialism in his book (chapters 6/7 in Living The Good Life). I ignore that part ;-)

socialism is generally the collective ownership of the means of production land, labor, capital.

I am for the absolute private ownership of labor and capital (stored labor)

We were talking about Scott Nearing who WAS A SELF PROCLAIMED SOCIALIST!

hankster

Quote from: eukreign on December 04, 2005, 08:34 PM NHFT
Quote from: hankster on December 04, 2005, 08:25 PM NHFT
Quote from: eukreign on December 04, 2005, 08:05 PM NHFT
Quote from: hankster on December 04, 2005, 07:40 PM NHFT
He was a Georgist...having grown up in Arden, Deleware (1905) a Georgist single tax/land trust community.

I know, I just read two chapters basically dedicated to socialism in his book (chapters 6/7 in Living The Good Life). I ignore that part ;-)

socialism is generally the collective ownership of the means of production land, labor, capital.

I am for the absolute private ownership of labor and capital (stored labor)

We were talking about Scott Nearing who WAS A SELF PROCLAIMED SOCIALIST!

believing in socialism before or after the withering away of the state?

he started out as a Georgist and I don't believe you understand the difference between common property and collective property.

Lex

Quote from: hankster on December 04, 2005, 09:10 PM NHFT
believing in socialism before or after the withering away of the state?

he started out as a Georgist and I don't believe you understand the difference between common property and collective property.

He was not an anarchist and believed in government controlled and planned economy. Go read his book, The Good Life, he talks all about how he tried to convince his neighbors to join him in planning a mutual economy. In fact he admits that his attempts were failures because even people who tried to work with the Nearings did not wish to live in such a controlled way of life. Still he persisted and believed that controll and planning of economy, society and life was the right way to live. And he continuously failed... he simple did not want to acknowledge that people are individualists by nature, in fact in his book he COMPLAINED about people being so individualistic and wanting to be independent. He even seemed to complain that there wasn't a police officer patrolling the roads and that people had guns at home?!?! He was a very smart man but sometimes he came to some pretty unsupported and freightening conclusions.