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Started by livefreeordye, June 02, 2011, 03:54 PM NHFT

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livefreeordye

Hi.  It is leetninja.  I live in Salem (for now) and well ... I can't seem to login to my leetninja account anymore - i didn't intend to find myself seeking any kind of help after the last post that I had made and people well ... I dunno ... I guess they didn't understand what the actual problem was or something and it went off into tangents that had nothing to do with this issue.  I find myself here because this is the only place that I really know of that might care.  I might be wrong.  I am just hoping I'm not.  I have had this account and forgotten about it but now I figured it out, so thusly I am using it now to ask for assistance and advice. 

On May 25th (sorry I typed March for some reason) I was arrested and detained punched and threatened multiple times.  I was told it is a message and that the thugs hope it is coming through loud and clear etc.  For over an hour I was berated and belittled and never told what the charges were or shown a warrant for my arrest.  I was refused an attorney and my phone call that I hear I am supposed to get.  The officer upon arrival chatted with me for a while and then asked me if I wanted the good or bad news.  I asked for the good.  He said it was a lovely day out and finally we are getting some nice weather.  Then he asked if I wanted the bad and I said sure.  He informed me that there was a warrant for my arrest.  I thought he was joking and laughed but he he assured me it was no joke and that I was going with him.  He was on a motorcycle so I asked if I would be riding on back and laughed some more.  I informed him that I would not be going anywhere or be arrested for anything until I know what the charges are and see a warrant with my name on it.  After asking several times to see the warrant and what the charges were the officer would not do so.  I did not want to be arrested.  Neighbors and friends started to gather all at around 830 in the morning.  This is all on camera.  I have video surveillance on my house but no audio.  I have been told and threatened with wiretapping if I use my system or any other device to audio record.

My neighbors and friends asked him what was going on and he told them he was arresting me.  When asked he said he "didn't know" what for and I would find out at booking and they could follow him down etc.  My friend advised me to just go.  As he was doing so the officer noticed I wasn't paying 100% attention to him and he slapped a cuff on me.  No one intervened.  People started getting angry yelling and I asked them to just calm down so that the thugs had no one else to arrest.  I told them to call my lawyer, take my phone, call my parents, call porc 911, and call 911 and report a kidnapping.  I am not sure what they actually did other than use their phones to call numbers they knew.  I was taken in a cruiser the longest way possible back to the station with the guy speeding and hanging turns as hard as he could and laughing about it. 

When I was taken in 4 officers surrounded me and began their berating of me.  How everyone hates me and I am an asshole etc.  They pulled out all the stops.  I kept repeating that I had done nothing, wanted to see my warrant, asking what the charges were, and demanding to speak to my attorney.

I was told that they were salivating over my warrant, that they drew straws to see who would get to kick the shit out of me when i resisted, that this is retribution for calling them and bothering them and making them come up to the lake out of their way, that they are going to arrest me every time they see me or just when they want to, that the revenge tastes so sweet, and that my own family hates me and thinks I am worthless amongst other things.

It went on for over an hour. 

I was ordered to take my video cameras down because I live in a shithole and not an 8 million dollar mansion.  They kept saying that this is a message repeatedly and asking me over and over if I got it yet etc   

They told me that I carry a gun because I like to intimidate people and that I think I am a tough guy etc - I told them they could ask my attorney why i carry but that they were wrong as usual

I remember the phrase "This is a warning of things to come asshole" being said at least 3 times

One officer had his tazer drawn and I was fearing the worst would happen.

At the end I was printed photographed and hustled out the front door with a summons to court for Disorderly Conduct.  A violation. 

I was never read my Miranda rights or told what I was arrested for.  They have refused to produce any warrant for my arrest even to my attorney and they have been giving us the run around. 

I don't know what to do about this but I am absolutely enraged.  I am also scared not just of the crazy neighbors now but also this corrupt and abusive police force in Salem. 

This is over a lot line dispute with crazy neighbors.  This happened because one of the crazies said that I drove by her house and flipped her off and called her a cunt.  Not only did that not happen but I was/am VERIFIABLY not home during the time frame she stated.  I was never asked any questions about the incident or where I was before, during, or after this arrest.

The end result is that I am in such fear for my own safety and well being as well as my dog's that I am moving out of Salem and probably to a smaller town like Windham or Atkinson or Newton.  I have been looking in this area going on a week now.  The decision has been made.  I have already been shown 2 houses and I have another 4 being shown this weekend.  Hopefully I am out by the end of the month.  If not sooner. 

Let me end this by saying I really do like the majority of you.  Even the ones I do not see eye to eye with on everything.  This isn't about me.  This is about what is right and what is wrong.  This is about human and civil rights that should never be violated. 

Dave Ridley

i didnt read teh whole thing but have you uploaded the vid and where is it. 

Jim Johnson

Since you are asking for help.
You have been on a downward spiral for a few years. 
You have lost family and friends because of your behavior. 
If it's true that you trust people on this forum, you should believe that you need to talk to someone who can help you.
You need a therapist.

Start here  http://freedomainradio.com/

livefreeordye

Quote from: Jim Johnson on June 03, 2011, 11:18 AM NHFT
Since you are asking for help.
You have been on a downward spiral for a few years. 
You have lost family and friends because of your behavior. 
If it's true that you trust people on this forum, you should believe that you need to talk to someone who can help you.
You need a therapist.

Start here  http://freedomainradio.com/

I tend to disagree with your response.  I believe plenty of others would as well.  I fail to see any downward spiral.  I have certainly been the brunt of abuse by neighbors and police.  Time and time again I am proven to be innocent and not lying not guilty of anything etc.  I am being targeted by more than just one person and now by the PD.

I have not lost friend or family over any of my behavior.  In fact my friends in family are all very involved and on my side as it were. 

I would say that I trust some people but trust really isn't what this is about either.  It is about like minded thought process and seeking some help in how to handle a situation that is out of control.  Even if I leave this town behind, which I shouldn't have to do, I feel like I should pursue legal action of all sorts against these people and the PD.

Regardless of if I have/need/want/etc a therapist again is really irrelevant to what happened and what has been happening.  I'm not really going to get into this topic.

livefreeordye

Quote from: DadaOrwell on June 03, 2011, 12:52 AM NHFT
i didnt read teh whole thing but have you uploaded the vid and where is it.

I have the video on my drive but I have not uploaded it to anywhere at the moment.  It is just a silent video that essentially consists of this guy walking into my yard, knocking on the door, me putting on my boots and chatting and then meeting my neighbors at the front of the yard and then me being placed in cuffs and put into a cruiser.

KBCraig

Sorry to hear about your ongoing troubles.

One problem I've noticed (and this tends to be true of all your reports), is that you never say what you'd like anyone to actually do. People are a lot more likely to help when they know what they're being asked to do.

Also, they're more likely to help someone they know in real life. Have you made acquaintances with anyone on the forum, other than on the forum?

I'm not in NH so I'm not in a position to actually help, but I've met in real life about a dozen of the regulars here, and consider them friends. When I move, I feel pretty confident I could ask for help and receive it.

livefreeordye

I'm not really sure what to ask for other than advice I guess. 

I have only met a couple of people off here.  I tend to be a bit shy and introverted.  Typical geek I guess. 

I was hoping this would all just go away but it hasn't and wont. 

I fail to understand how the thugs can arrest someone telling them that there is a warrant for their arrest, and then not produce it when asked by the person and then still not when asked by counsel.  How is that even possible?!

I am just outraged by it.

Right now, I don't even know what to do with my house.  I am definitely moving out which basically means I rent it to someone or I sell it.  If I rent it these people have a documented history of harassing people who live here.  This is just the worst of the harassment I guess.  If I sell it well ... I just feel bad for whoever buys it I guess.

Russell Kanning

I am not surprised by the cops behavior. I don't think you will beat them by using force. I don't think a lawyer will help the situation. These thugs don't follow any rules or laws. They do what they can get away with.
Cops withholding contact with the outside world is pretty normal.

Tom Sawyer

Sorry you have ended up in this situation. Over time, from what I have read, it sounds like a pissing contest. Granted the people sound like assholes, but assholes often enjoy conflict.

Just guessing on my part, but it seems you believed that a gun, or the video system or any one of the other tools would give you the upper hand. In the end they didn't. Now the cops are messing with you because they are the bullies in charge.

Again I'm sorry for the situation and your concern for you and your dogs safety.

My 2 cents, is either cut your losses and move on. Or file a formal complaint all the way up the hierarchy, spelling out exactly what the cops did to you. Don't just bitch to their boss, you have to formally notify every one up the chain to the top. Then be ready to deal with this mess for a couple of years.


Russell Kanning

i don't like cops .... and I have never had a group of them tell me they are going to ruin my life

dalebert

Quote from: Russell Kanning on June 03, 2011, 10:54 PM NHFT
i don't like cops .... and I have never had a group of them tell me they are going to ruin my life

You've been outdone, Russell!

Graelin

If this incident happened as you've outlined, this seems like a no-brainer to me. I'm not sure what the problem is here... you were illegally kidnapped under the color-of-law.  Complain loudly. Right up the chain to the lead mob-boss of the NH legal system.  Sue the town for civil rights violations, win, and donate the money back to the people via a freedom/liberty themed party.

Disorderly conduct, in the iteration they chose to use the fairytale, isn't an arrestable offense yet hey arrested you.  As I understand it, once they arrest you, they have 48 hours to make a formal criminal charge.  If after that time, that doesn't happen, you have just been kidnapped (funny how it takes 2 days to officially be kidnapped). Not only were you kidnapped, but it was done under the color of law, which I believe carries heavier penalties.

My advice is don't let this one go. Don't move. Don't cave in. Definitely goto court over the violation, and waste some money there. Seems to me that you should anyway because that particular clause is unconstitutional anyway and needs to be changed. If you can't get the whole statute out, at least whittle it down some. Flipping someone off is not a crime.. ruled on by the Supreme court... calling someone a name is arguably protected as well. It's all moot anyway.. the way you've written the events is that the cop came to bring you in on a warrant. If he wasn't answering a complaint or actually there to bring you in on the warrant, he should have never been there to begin with. It shouldn't be too difficult to show the only reason he was there was to intimidate. 91-A the call log and prove your case.

And next time it happens to you, DON'T talk to them for God's sake. There is NOTHING that will benefit you from speaking with them. Every time a cop asks if they can speak with me, my answer is always NO. If they insist, We go the "Are you detaining me" and "Am I free to go" route. It forces them to either arrest you with reason.. meaning they need to say "I'm arresting you for...." or let you go. If they don't give a reason, you have every right (and it's your DUTY in my opinion) to resist, escalating force by their policy. They pull the tazer, you pull the gun etc. Honestly, I've never gotten to that point as they usually go away after I ask them if they think the town can afford this encounter. THEY know when they are breaking the Law. THEY hope that YOU don't. Call their bluff and move on.

If you don't want to go the legal route, which admittedly may be a dead end, I'd call their asses every night. Suspicious activity on the beach, unusual noises, possible car thefts etc. They don't like answering the calls and feel the need to punish you for them somehow, well.. increase the calls. First time they don't do their job, goto the media... or bring it up loudly at a town hall meeting. War is easy to declare and prosecute. On both sides. You need to decide if you are a Sovereign or not. If you want to be a subject, by all means sell your stuff and get out of Dodge and never look back.. never regret the decision. Graze on the "greener" grass and wait till the next time it happens to you. If you decide you are a Sovereign, act like it.

OR.. here's a novel idea... go about living your life like it never happened. Bullies and thugs are just that.. they NEED your acknowledgment. Ignore them.. let them make a stupid move and get them on it.

This is just my advice. Everyone has their line in the sand. These would be my options in this scenario.

Russell Kanning

they are doing their jobs
protect those currently in power and terrorize anyone who questions them

livefreeordye

I filed motions for discovery.  Now they have to produce said warrant and any "evidence" they have regarding my "disorderly conduct"

I intend to complain loudly and have been doing so as much as possible but the issue is ... who do I complain to really?  Evidently anything that would warrant an internal investigation with Salem PD is "investigated" by Salem PD, and then they discipline themselves ... what a fucking joke!

The only thing that they have done in well over 48 hours is harass me and refuse to produce a warrant that was supposedly out for my arrest that day.  The charge stands at Disorderly Conduct at a violation level.  So basically this can be equated to the thugs arresting me only to hand me a speeding ticket because someone said I was speeding on 93 or something similar to that.  To me this is unacceptable.  Again though ... where/to whom do I complain loudly?

At first I was on the same page as far as moving goes.  I didn't want the assholes to win.  I would have been damned if I let them or anyone else run me out of my own home.  Then my father broke down and said that he didn't want to be at my funeral screaming for justice that he would never get.  That he thinks the thugs have made it clear that they intend to harm me.  That they will say I did something or had something that they needed to shoot and kill me over.  He, my mother, sister, and rest of the family overall want me to get the hell out of here because every day they are afraid that someone is going to call them and tell them that the Salem PD has shot and killed me.  That is when it clicked that as much as I don't want to leave ... I can ... I should ...

I don't want to ... no ... make that: I am absolutely NOT letting this go.  I just don't know the best way to declare war yet.  I like being not just one step ahead but 14 steps ahead of everyone.  Anything less to me is too much variable.  I have a few ideas, none of which I can comfortably discuss on the open forum, as to what to do for some of it.  There are other parts that I am stuck on though i.e. who is next in line to complain to, how do I go about filing a lawsuit against the Town and the PD either together or separately etc.

As far as the whole ignore them thing.  I have been doing that for 10 months now.  Absolutely ignoring, not engaging, not retaliating, really not doing much of anything other than trying to stay the hell away from these assholes.  They are not satisfied with that and have now caused this bullshit to happen.  It did nothing but fill me with rage and indignation. 

I will no longer be a victim and I will no longer be abused by these people or the Salem PD as far as I am concerned. 

AntonLee

Salem cops are pussies.  Everyone who lives there knows that.