CD in CO!

[jgmaynard]

This lady sounds like she would be right at home in NH........

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4279299,00.html

Fed Center flap draws a busload of support
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By Karen Abbott, Rocky Mountain News
December 1, 2005
Deborah Davis said Wednesday she has been overwhelmed by the support she has received via the Internet and telephone for her stance against having to show her identification while riding on an RTD bus that crosses the Federal Center in Lakewood.
But she's trying to keep up with her daily routine, doing her laundry and, on Tuesday, cleaning the gutters on her home. "It keeps me normal," she said.

Bill Scannell, who has publicized other challenges to government ID requirements, said the Web site he created for the Davis case, www.papersplease.org/davis,had received visits from 2.4 million individuals by about 2 p.m. Wednesday.

Scannell said the Web site also has received more than 1,800 e-mails about Davis' case, and that all but about 20 have been supportive.

"There's become so many I can't even read them all," Davis said.

"I never thought this would happen," she said. "I was just trying not to show my ID because I don't have to. That's all."

Davis, 50, of Arvada, refused in September to show her identification when federal police boarded RTD's No. 100 bus when it entered the Federal Center. Davis wasn't getting off there but riding through on her way to work elsewhere, as were some other passengers.

Federal police removed her from the bus and handcuffed and ticketed her for refusing to show her ID. She is scheduled to appear in federal court Dec. 9.

A Rocky Mountain News story about Davis on Tuesday drew about 120,000 Web site readers by late afternoon. A link to the News article appeared on The Drudge Report, a popular Web site about current events at drudgereport.com.

"I feel really good that people care, that they are just terribly supportive," Davis said. But she said she's been embarrassed by comparisons that have been made to civil rights pioneer Rosa Parks.

The most critical responses she had read, she said, were from people wondering why she didn't just comply with the police order.

Davis' refusal to show her ID as a matter of principle clearly touched a nerve among News readers. Many e-mailed the newspaper expressing widely differing views.

Some examples:

? "Deborah N. Davis is absolutely correct and the guards at the federal building behaved as the Nazi fascists did 65 years ago in Germany, controlling 'free' movement of citizens by frequent demands of papers."

? "They should have shot this (expletive deleted) first and then looked through her purse for ID."

? "If she doesn't like it here, she can leave any time. In fact, from what I read in today's news, they have 4 openings in Iraq for Peace Activists. It seems like her 'donating' herself to become another kidnapee by 'The Swords of Righteousness Brigade' would be a cause she might be worthy of."

? "Good for her. This country is becoming more and more a police state!!!! Well done!!"

[Kat Kanning]

(Note, this was also being discussed here:  http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=991.msg39174#msg39174)


Fed Center flap draws a busload of support

Rocky Mountain News/Karen Abbott | December 1 2005

Deborah Davis said Wednesday she has been overwhelmed by the support she has received via the Internet and telephone for her stance against having to show her identification while riding on an RTD bus that crosses the Federal Center in Lakewood.

But she's trying to keep up with her daily routine, doing her laundry and, on Tuesday, cleaning the gutters on her home. "It keeps me normal," she said.

Bill Scannell, who has publicized other challenges to government ID requirements, said the Web site he created for the Davis case, www.papersplease.org/davis,had received visits from 2.4 million individuals by about 2 p.m. Wednesday.

Scannell said the Web site also has received more than 1,800 e-mails about Davis' case, and that all but about 20 have been supportive.

"There's become so many I can't even read them all," Davis said.

"I never thought this would happen," she said. "I was just trying not to show my ID because I don't have to. That's all."

Davis, 50, of Arvada, refused in September to show her identification when federal police boarded RTD's No. 100 bus when it entered the Federal Center. Davis wasn't getting off there but riding through on her way to work elsewhere, as were some other passengers.

Federal police removed her from the bus and handcuffed and ticketed her for refusing to show her ID. She is scheduled to appear in federal court Dec. 9.

A Rocky Mountain News story about Davis on Tuesday drew about 120,000 Web site readers by late afternoon. A link to the News article appeared on The Drudge Report, a popular Web site about current events at drudgereport.com.

"I feel really good that people care, that they are just terribly supportive," Davis said. But she said she's been embarrassed by comparisons that have been made to civil rights pioneer Rosa Parks.

The most critical responses she had read, she said, were from people wondering why she didn't just comply with the police order.

Davis' refusal to show her ID as a matter of principle clearly touched a nerve among News readers. Many e-mailed the newspaper expressing widely differing views.

Some examples:

? "Deborah N. Davis is absolutely correct and the guards at the federal building behaved as the Nazi fascists did 65 years ago in Germany, controlling 'free' movement of citizens by frequent demands of papers."

? "They should have shot this (expletive deleted) first and then looked through her purse for ID."

? "If she doesn't like it here, she can leave any time. In fact, from what I read in today's news, they have 4 openings in Iraq for Peace Activists. It seems like her 'donating' herself to become another kidnapee by 'The Swords of Righteousness Brigade' would be a cause she might be worthy of."

? "Good for her. This country is becoming more and more a police state!!!! Well done!!"

[Dreepa]

How could anyone be against her?
Who are some of these morons?

[Michael Fisher]

 

[Rocketman]

Dreepa: simple -- they are the cult of the omnipotent state.  Statements like these make them easy to spot.

[Russell Kanning]

I wonder if they can work up a whole busload of refuseniks.

[Kat Kanning]

Here's the reply I got from the CO FSP group:

I damn sure ain't. You wanna support my family and pay
the ensuing legal fees, we can discuss it. Otherwise,
I'll do what I can to help those with too much time on
their hands. I don't have the energy to organize
anything around this, either.
Kat, we've talked before. I admire you. I really do.
But, I hafta ask; are things slow in NH? You really
think getting arrested is going to preserve a freedom
that's already gone? The Feds have been boarding RTD
at the Fed Ctr since forever. Now one woman says 'no'.
Good for her! It didn't change jack-shit. She ain't
Rosa Parks. There is no mass of outraged oppressed
citizens any more. Just a few Activists in NH.
You wanna run a freedom ride to Denver to sit-in at
the Fed Ctr, you can use my place as your HQ. Don't
expect a lot of participation. Good luck.

[Russell Kanning]

CD makes people choose sides ..... I guess this guy is for the police state.

[Russell Kanning]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fspco/

[Dreepa]

Dreepa: simple -- they are the cult of the omnipotent state.? Statements like these make them easy to spot.

yeah people will say what is the big deal about showing ID if you are doing nothing wrong ( I hate that reply).

Also all of the September 11th Terrorist had IDs how will showing ID prevent anything?

[Dreepa]

Here's the reply I got from the CO FSP group:

I damn sure ain't.

Ok they could have just said no.. that was a shitty reply.

[donlovelace]

Kat has  more postings to that yahoo group than their on the ground  members.
It's my understanding that the FSP is trying to attract 20,000 ACTIVSTS to move to NH to  work towards changing the political climate.
The people in CO don't look very active.
What will they do when they move to NH? Will the suddenly flip a switch and become active?
Or will they ride around on the coattails of the real activists  and mutter  "tsk tsk tsk that was a shame that so&so got arrested, but we can tell everyone we watched them get hauled away. I'm so glad I moved to NH so I can really be free. Where's my beer?"

(I know, who am I to talk? sitting here chopping at the bit....................)

"So often times it happens
That we live our lives in chains
and we never even know we have the key"
Eagles      Already gone

[Kat Kanning]

No Charges: Woman Wouldn't Show ID On Bus
Feds Decline To File Against Deborah Davis

The Denver Channel | December 8 2005

DENVER -- Federal prosecutors have decided against filing misdemeanor charges against a woman who refused to show identification when a bus she was riding in entered federal property.

Deborah Davis, 50, of Arvada, Colo., was taken off a Regional Transportation District bus, handcuffed and issued two petty offense tickets on Sept. 26 at the Denver Federal Center, a sprawling campus of federal offices in Lakewood, Colo.

Davis said the bus she took to work passed through the Federal Center, and that federal officers would routinely board it asking for identification.

She said the officers with the Federal Protective Service just looked at the IDs and did not record them or compare them with any lists.

After reviewing her rights, one day in September she refused to produce her ID and she refused their orders to get off the bus. She said she was removed from the bus, handcuffed and ticketed for two petty offenses.

U.S. Attorney's Office spokesman Jeff Dorschner said charges wouldn't be filed because of a technicality involving the signs on the day of the incident. He would not elaborate.

Federal officials have been checking the IDs of anyone entering the center since the 1995 bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City.

The ACLU had agreed to help defend Davis, who had been scheduled to appear in U.S. District Court on Friday.

Her case prompted a Web site that documented her troubles. It calls her "the Rosa Parks of the Patriot Act generation."

[Russell Kanning]

"U.S. Attorney's Office spokesman Jeff Dorschner said charges wouldn't be filed because of a technicality involving the signs on the day of the incident. He would not elaborate."

The Feds flinched.

[Russell Kanning]

They are going to show up tomorrow and dance on the steps anyway.