“Sovereign Citizen Movement” Continues to Attract Attention

[Silent_Bob]

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/11040-sovereign-citizen-movement-continues-to-attract-attention

Film star Wesley Snipes (One Night Stand, Blade) is scheduled for release from federal prison on July 19, 2013, 31 months after being incarcerated for failure to file his income-tax returns.

During his trial several other charges against him were dismissed including attempts to use the 861 argument, a claim that section 861 of the tax code exempts certain activities from the income tax and that is used unsuccessfully by tax protestors to avoid paying income taxes, as well as fraudulent attempts to obtain income-tax refunds from the IRS — Snipes referred to himself as "a non-resident alien" despite the fact that he is a U.S.-born citizen.

These are some of the tools the "sovereign citizen movement" (SCM) teaches in its quest to free members from various onerous and perceived unconstitutional laws and to declare themselves independent of the government. They take the position that they are "answerable only to common law" and therefore are not subject to any statutes at the federal, state, or municipal levels. They do not officially recognize U.S. currency and declare themselves to be "free of any legal constraints." One of those restraints is the obligation to pay income taxes, which they consider to be illegitimate, hence the failed "861 argument" in the Snipes case. 

A few of the estimated 100,000-300,000 "members" occasionally go off the deep end and when confronted with reality, use threats of force and even violence in defense of their beliefs. According to the Los Angeles Times, Shawn Rice was a "sovereign citizen" who, upon being served a warrant for money-laundering, strapped on a bulletproof vest, armed himself, and then barricaded himself in his home in Seligman, Arizona. He was arrested after a 10-hour standoff and now is awaiting trial.

Several recent clashes, some of them fatal, have raised concerns within the FBI, which is now focusing on SCM members, along with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the National Terrorism Center (NTC).

In April of 2010, the FBI issued an alert explaining that "sovereign citizens are anti-government extremists who believe that even though they physically reside in the country, they are separate or 'sovereign' from the United States. As a result, they believe they don't have to answer to any government authority, including courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments, or law enforcement." The FBI warning went on to say:

Not every action taken in the name of the sovereign citizen ideology is a crime, but the list of illegal actions committed by these groups and individuals is extensive (and puts them squarely on our radar) ... sovereign citizens

commit murder and physical assault;

threaten judges, law enforcement professionals, and government personnel;

impersonate police officers and diplomats;

use fake currency, passports, license plates, and driver's licenses; and

engineer various white-collar scams, including mortgage fraud and so-called "redemption" schemes.

Most notable was the incident involving Jerry Kane and his 16-year-old-son Joe during a routine traffic stop on May 20, 2010 in West Memphis, Arkansas, which ended with two police officers and Jerry and his son dead from gunshot wounds. Kane considered himself a "sovereign citizen" and was engaged in holding seminars around the country that taught others not only how to use various tactics to escape from the system but also how to harass politicians and other government officials who dared to inflict their will on them. Kane didn't carry a driver's license, and his SCM license plate, in the West Memphis incident, caused the officers to stop and question him.

Kane made his position crystal clear at one of his seminars when he said,

I don't want to have to kill anybody. But if they keep messing with me, that's what it's going to have to come out, that's what it's going to come down to is I'm gonna have to kill. And if I have to kill one, then I'm not going to be able to stop.

In a segment on the CBS program 60 Minutes last May, an author investigating the movement, J.J. MacNab, was asked about the typical SCM member. She responded, "The average sovereign citizen today is 30 to 35 years old and is in economic dire straits. They've probably lost their job. They've probably lost their wife." The interviewer asked MacNab, "Are they paranoid?"

         MacNab: Many are.

         60 Minutes: Conspiracy theorists?

         MacNab: Most are.

The interviewer then asked Alfred Adask, who claims to be a "sovereign citizen" for over 28 years, "Why is the sovereign citizen movement growing?" He answered,

What's driving people to it is they're beginning to understand that the government has moved away from fundamental principles that this nation was built on. Where are those limits in limited government? The sovereignty movement is attempting to rediscover those limits and reassert them.

Sovereign citizens often file bogus property liens on targeted officials, which aren't uncovered until years later when a piece of property is being sold. They file fake tax forms that are designed to ruin an "enemy's" credit rating or cause them to be audited by the IRS.

It's unfortunate that the "sovereign citizen movement" appears, on the surface, to understand some of the concerns of legitimate conservatives in the freedom fight but have, for various reasons, twisted and confused and misapprehended those concerns to their own ends, sometimes with tragic consequences. Economist Gary North was explicit about what a proper response to the SCM should be: "Fringe groups that take up arms against the state attract people without good sense. It is wise to avoid them."

[Free libertarian]

Oxymoron ?  Sovereign citizen.  Just sayin'. 

[Jim Johnson]

Sovereign citizens real miss the point about how 'overbearing assholes want to steal shit from you'.  And not just your rectal remains... your good shit too.
They also miss the point about how the law is purposely confusing; and how overbearing asshole doesn't care what is in the law anyway.

[Tom Sawyer]

The fact is some of what the "Sovereign Citizen" believes is connected to the truth about the way the expansion into our rights happened... Some is nutbaggery... and at best it ends up being magic words used as talisman to magically ward off the oppressors.

Freakin' lawyers/judges/politicians interpret and administer the law...
When the Commerce Clause decision stands that because the feds wanted to regulate wheat production (and in succession everything else they wanted fed control of) the guy that wasn't involved in interstate sales, or sale of wheat at all, is still determined to be effecting Interstate Commerce... so we get to regulate everything.

Guns or magic words aren't going to bring freedom.

[Free libertarian]

INTERSTATE COMMERCE??  That there wheat you're growin' for yur own consumption done took you outa the buyin' market boy, so you are engagin' in interstate commerce cuz you're NOT buyin' wheat thus you ARE affectin' the commerce see??!! ...And that IS where we get the authoritay to make ALL them dangerous plants illegal!!! Now put your hands up in the air boy...now!!!   

[Jim Johnson]

INTERSTATE COMMERCE??  That there wheat you're growin' for yur own consumption done took you outa the buyin' market boy, so you are engagin' in interstate commerce cuz you're NOT buyin' wheat thus you ARE affectin' the commerce see??!! ...And that IS where we get the authoritay to make ALL them dangerous plants illegal!!! Now put your hands up in the air boy...now!!!   

[Tom Ploszaj]

http://www.wfsb.com/story/16992293/sovereigns-are-they-freedom-fighters-or-law-breakers

Sovereigns mentioned in CT recently

[Russell Kanning]

I think some fed guy asked me if I was a sov. citizen and I just said I didn't feel too "sovereign" in these handcuffs.

That article was pretty pathetic.

I guess you are a sovereign if you have your profile on money.

Maybe we are citizens of the Shire or soveriegns of our own country like the emperor.

[Free libertarian]

I think some fed guy asked me if I was a sov. citizen and I just said I didn't feel too "sovereign" in these handcuffs.

That article was pretty pathetic.

I guess you are a sovereign if you have your profile on money.

Maybe we are citizens of the Shire or soveriegns of our own country like the emperor.

...some of us are even elected "officials"  .  Take THAT Misty the Cat!   

[Jim Johnson]

Can we file a financial claim against Misty and then take out a loan on 4 1/2 dead mice and a small snake?

[Free libertarian]

I have been authorized to investigate this conversation...first off where'd the  other 1/2 of the 5th dead mouse go huh ?

[Tom Sawyer]

Mr. Johnson does not recall the disposition of any mice whole or in part.

Tom Sawyer
Esquire

However, I have had to distance myself from any appearance of impropriety. This has required my filing of a "report" detailing your unlicensed attempt to initiate an investigation. Sorry it's for everyone's protection... and by everyone I mean me. 

[Jim Johnson]

I'd like to thank my legal representative for stepping on my behalf.
As I have not said before, "I'm not playing checkers here, it's more like dyslectic Scrabble."

[Free libertarian]

I'd like to thank my legal representative for stepping on my behalf.
As I have not said before, "I'm not playing checkers here, it's more like dyslectic Scrabble."

I stepped on my behalf once and boy did it hurt! 

[Russell Kanning]

actually I think I will need Tom Sawyer in a white suit as my lawyer next time in court