Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 15

[jaqeboy]

Brad Spangler's blog post on the Browns:

http://www.bradspangler.com/blog/archives/676

[Dave Ridley]

OK here's a report from the "field" on my activities yesterday.   I and a beautiful young lady from the Seacoast demonstrated in front of the Manchester IRS office for a little under two hours.   I would have preferred to see more turnout, however on the updside...two TV stations showed up and videotaped us.  I had a pretty good getup this time....modified gadsden flag, V mask on back of head, bright orange NHfree.com vest, Huge sign....it said:

Dear Feds
Plz Dont
Hurt Ed
Brown
NHfree.com

The other demonstrator's sign said, I think, "I support the Browns."

Support was roughly the usual:   17 positive responses, 2 negative.   A lot of people still wanted to know who ed brown was, but almost everyone knew there was a guy holed up in his Plainfield house.

One teenage gal driving by asked "what should I do?"   I told her "go to NHFree.com"
Another average person stopped to take our pictures.

No police or security presence, tho some friendly MPD cops waved at us.

On the drive up, I called the Marshals again to ask if people had been forceably evacuated from their homes.  The lady who answered was nice and took my number.  I told her "you sure are staying chipper today after all the calls you're probably getting."

I said thank you, but not for raiding the browns.  She laughed.

I got a call from Margot and one from Channel 9 asking various questions in response to the quickie news realease type thing I sent out.

[Kat Kanning]

I call on Ron Paul to personally attempt to negotiate the surrender of Ed Brown. Paul's status as a US Congressman would make it more difficult for the federal goons to deny his request to make the attempt. Paul's respect among right-constitutionalists both makes it more likely that Brown would accept and, more importantly, would act to reduce tensions generally.

I think that this is true...Ron Paul could negotiate a surrender.

[TylerM]

I think the State is going to kill enough of us as it is. If you must go out in a self determined "blaze of glory", strap a-- You know what, that line of thinking may get me arrested. You know where I'm headed though...

In all seriousness, a check list of what to do?

First, is to have people on site before the raid. There's got to be enough people to rotate shifts of protestors with cameras at the entry to the Brown's.

Next, contraband supply runs of food is imperative, as well as an evacuation plan, would be spectacular, but that would require arms and violence.

Once a raid has happened, there's not much to do but demonstrations for the murdered people inside the Brown's home.

[Caleb]

Here's an LTE that I sent to the Keene Sentinel
----

In October of 2006, the Washington Post reported on a scientific study that claims that over 655,000 Iraqi civilians have died as a result of the U.S. Invasion. We still haven't been given a valid reason for that invasion. Meanwhile in Afghanistan, the State Department is recommending an "eradication" campaign against the heroin poppies. This policy is already being carried out in Colombia. I suppose it is a lot easier just to spray drug crops with herbicide than to find an intelligent solution to the problems in this desperately poor region, but this spraying campaign has destroyed the livelihood of many in Colombia who have no other means of supporting themselves. Of course, the Colombian actions are just one facet of U.S. meddling in Latin America. The federal government has maintained the School of the Americas (recently renamed the "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation") to train Latin American terrorists in the art of torture and oppression.

Of course, this shocks the morality of a lot of Americans. Some have decided to stop paying for these crimes. But as Ed and Elaine Brown's situation has shown, if you do decide not to pay for foreign terrorism, jack-booted thugs will show up on your property with SWAT teams. Is there any doubt that this scene is being carried out in order to intimidate us into paying taxes to support the empire? Webster's International Dictionary defines terrorism as "A mode of governing, or of opposing government, by intimidation." Wouldn't the federal government's actions fall into this category?

Caleb Johnson
Keene, NH

[Raineyrocks]

Wow, that's good Caleb.

[Take It In Blood]

I call on Ron Paul to personally attempt to negotiate the surrender of Ed Brown. Paul's status as a US Congressman would make it more difficult for the federal goons to deny his request to make the attempt. Paul's respect among right-constitutionalists both makes it more likely that Brown would accept and, more importantly, would act to reduce tensions generally.

I think that this is true...Ron Paul could negotiate a surrender.

but if they said "No", why would anyone bother?

[supperman15]

these demonstrations should do one of two things
A) look like a mamorial, perhaps a 48hr candle vigial showing that there is a large comunity sadend by this
B) protest that are more then just sings, big visuals and perhaps streetside "reinactments"

[Kat Kanning]

I'm not saying they should surrender.  That's totally for them to decide.

[Take It In Blood]

I'm not saying they should surrender.  That's totally for them to decide.

ohh I understand, I'm just saying they stated "we won't surrender, we are here to stay no matter what". So I think calling Ron Paul would be useless

But it will be interesting what he has to say about this situation

[Kat Kanning]

I think that would be an excellent test to see whether Ron Paul is the good man he appears to be, or a politician like the rest - if he'd help the Browns, he's OK.

[Kat Kanning]

I talked to Ed a few minutes ago.  So the phone is definitely back on   He confirmed what was said in Danny Riley's video - there were shots fired, the dog came running back, Danny disappeared.  He said Danny doesn't lie.  I didn't think to ask him about the other arrest.  He asked Russell and I to come visit, and he asked that we all be careful, even with our demonstrations.  He seemed to be in a pretty good mood - was real sweet to me today.

Put up a new article:
http://www.keenefreepress.com/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=536&Itemid=36

[JosephSHaas]

Ted Craft would probably need authorization to be retained by Ed or Elaine Brown.  If either were to agree to retain Craft--- donations would fly in in a matter of days.   I am sure at a later time the Browns could pay it forward for the next case similar to theirs.  Excellent as always Joe!  Joe has already laid out the ground work for a competent attorney.

Thanks WLTDI.  I've yet to read Ted's website.  But from what he did for the others against the I.R.S. he has an excellent track record, and I right now hereby pledge $1000 toward that $5000 retainer, and can forward that money order the court refused to accept the other day to him upon learning that $4000 mysteriously showed up in his mailbox for this cause. 

BTW, over at http://www.google.com I typed in: "Beverly Farms" Massachusetts IRS raid, and found another interesting attorney by the name of Alvin F. Rymsha, and his wife: Maureen.  The IRS word is in that "All That Glitters" story at pages 125-129 of 142 at the 80% print-out and tells of how a client of his found 157 gold coins in a treasure chest under a hatch in the floor of his father's basement, French coins bound for Washington's army during the Revolution that had shipwrecked on Lovell's Island where his ancestor was the lighthouse keeper.  Coins worth a month's wages each back then now worth $4000 each so totaling: $6 million! him getting to keep one as his fee for telling the Lovell brothers to "trickle the coins onto the market", but what of the treasure chest and 74 guns on the ship?  as reported by Edward Rowe Snow in his book.  At the local historical museum?  Or do you want to go scuba diving for one of the cannons?  See last Friday's June 1st pages B1+4 story by Stephanie Ebbert in The BOSTON GLOBE (Vol. 271, No. 152) for the Marblehead Neck cannon worth $1000 just found, but needing $7000 to restore. Also there's an island down in the Caribbean where you can even dig for some of these cannons from the water, now under dry land if you're interested.

But getting back to Ed's case and the e-mail report I just got about Danny Riley, the dog walker.  According to him it was a botched raid, with the service of papers for the seizure of the Lebanon property used as an excuse.  I tried to find out yesterday by my call to Henry up at Ed's whether they threw the papers onto his doorstep by that abode service, and Henry said there was some envelope there marked refused. So was it a raid, or service?

And WHY the "overwhelming police presence in Plainfield was a conglomerate of heavily armed New Hampshire, Maine and Massachusetts State Police"? as reported on page A12 of yesterday's http://www.unionleader.com "Agents" article by Kristen Senz.  According to N.H. RSA Ch. 106-D:1 for Compact Ratified http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VII/106-D/106-D-1.htm in Article VII Mutual Aid from: Article II of: "Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Vermont" can be by Art. VII, B. "request(ed) of the administrative head of the state police department" for only when there is a "case of emergency" defined in N.H. RSA Ch. 106-C:1,I "means a riot, as that term is used in RSA 644:1, and a natural disaster of major proportions, such as a fire, flood, hurricane, earthquake" etc. See http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VII/106-C/106-C-1.htm and http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXII/644/644-1.htm and in particular, see section I(a),(b), + (c).  So which one was it?  It cannot possibly be (a) or (b) as both these sections use the word "engages" as at page 239 defined as "4. to enter or bring into conflict with".  The word bring, page 91 defined as "3. To lead into a specific state or situation. 4. To induce. 5. To cause to occur" or happen, as in to bring: about, forth, off, etc.  There's an interesting postcard for sale in the State House Museum Store of how the army "repulsed".  The key word: pulse, and then a re-pulse.  So WHO does the first act?  See my Reply #3344 above @ 3:36 a.m. today about the "Governor of Hopkinton" and the last sentence of paragraph #2 about who is misleading who in the WRONG direction! So it must be under section (c) of "He assembles with 2 or more other persons with the purpose of commiting an OFFENSE against the person or property of another who he SUPPOSES to be guilty of a violation of the law...." (emphasis ADDed, but then again really not this one either, because it goes BEYOND mere supposition, but PROOF in the certificate to NO RSA 123:1 filing by the Feds for NO jurisdictional authority, and in a DEFENSive position on his own property! This is the ONLY way I can see for HOW the State Police from both "Maine and Massachusertts" have ANY authority up here in The Granite State.

There is that RSA Ch. 106-B:11 Cooperation With Other Police Forces, over at http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VII/106-B/106-B-11.htm but that reads that "The director and employees shall cooperate and exchange information with any other law enforcement agency both within and without this state, including federal authorities, for the purpose of preventing and detecting crime and apprehending criminals...." Ed deemed a "criminal" needing to be apprehended, and for the State Police to cooperate with the Feds, BUT only when the Feds comply with the law! Art. I, Sec. 8, Cl. 17, U.S. Const. to NH RSA 123:1 of NO such paperwork on file.  So the N.H. State Police, instead of demanding to see the paperwork of the Feds on file, that it is not, does "request aid from without the state"? by RSA Ch. 106-D:3 Powers of Director. http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VII/106-D/106-D-3.htm and "pursuant to Article VII B of the compact" but only AFTER "he has received the concurrence of the governor" who I've alerted to of this non filing by the Feds.  A NON-FILING by the Feds!! NON-FILING,  get it!? So a copy of this as to underline here over to Gov. John H. Lynch and Director Frederick Booth on Momday asking for a copy of this request as granted with the governor's signature thereon that or attached thereto, for delivery to me within five (5) business days in accordance with RSA Ch. 91-A Right to Know, and so by __:_ o'clock a.m./p.m. on Monday, June 18th.

Yours truly, - - - - - - - - - - Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, New Hampshire 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059 (cell phone).

P.S. #1 Notice in RSA Ch. 644:1 Riot, III that "Upon the request of a police officer, any person present during a violation of paragraph I or II SHALL render assistance, other than the use of force, in the suppression of such violations.  Any person REFUSING to render such ASSISTANCE is guilty of a misdemeanor."  (emphasis ADDed for to render, is @ page 598 of: "1. To submit" as to buckle-under to their claimed authority!?  To that I say: bullshit! The real definition is in "2. To give or make available: render assistance." So what? To give your gun over to them, or else? At page 304 "1.c. To deliver in exchange..." for what? Proof that they finally complied with RSA 123:1? That is the ONLY way I see Ed giving up his guns, for AFTER the State and Feds have complied with the law, proving that Ed had to go into these actions beyond words to correct these public servants Proverbs 29:19 style!

P.S. #2  Maybe somebody in MAss.achusetts (and Maine), can get their State Papers dealing with this Raid #2a+b too.  For the former, see http://www.masspress.org/public_access_handbook/copscourts.htm

[Dave Ridley]

responses on the union leader's website appear roughly evenly split between people who support the browns and people who support the feds.

[Dave Ridley]

is there any way i can give my phone # so someone can call me when huge things like this happen? i work most of the time, and i only get to check the board late at night..

pm me your phone number if u like or call me at 721 1490.   i'll add you to my list of people to call, tho that does not automatically mean youll get called right away.