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Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 15

Started by Dave Ridley, June 07, 2007, 04:54 PM NHFT

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LordBaltimore

Quote from: penguins4me on June 09, 2007, 11:13 PM NHFT

"They" were threatening that one dog-walker fella with 40 years in prison for aiding the Browns.

The guy is now saying that they threatened him with 15 years???

QuoteExclusive: Federal Assault On Brown Home Was Aborted
Man fired upon and captured tells story of being ordered to lie to
media by FBI and cover up botched raid

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Prison Planet
Friday, June 8, 2007

Danny Riley, the man who was shot at and arrested after he discovered
U.S. Marshals stalking Ed Brown's home, has revealed the amazing truth
behind how he was threatened with 15 years in jail by the FBI unless
he lied to the media to cover-up the fact that yesterday's events were
a planned siege and not merely to serve a warrant as authorities had
claimed.

Riley related in a video blog late yesterday how he had unwittingly
stumbled across U.S. Marshals preparing to raid the Brown property as
he left the house to take Ed Brown's dog for a walk. Riley was
confronted by two men in camouflage who fired two shots at him as he
attempted to run away, but was then tackled by 12 other armed Marshals
who tasered and handcuffed him.

What happened after was carried in our article this morning, but the
whole story exposes how the FBI had planned to orchestrate a violent
raid on the Brown's property, before aborting the siege and attempting
to use Riley, under intimidation that he would be jailed or even
killed, as a go-between to sell the cover-story to the media that the
authorities were merely serving a warrant.

Riley now fears for his life but has shown tremendous courage in
coming forward to lift the lid and expose the lies that the New
Hampshire police told the media in downplaying yesterday's events and
hiding the fact that they were planning a raid.

Riley tells us that after he was arrested and taken to the Lebanon
Police Department, he was told that authorities had been conducting
surveillance of the Brown's home on Wednesday and that they knew the
Brown's owned a 50 caliber rifle because they had observed Riley using
it on the Brown's shooting range, while a squadron of snipers lay in
wait should they have been discovered, aiming guns at Riley as he was
being watched.

Riley was interrogated by two FBI officials who called themselves Phil
and Mark, and was threatened with 15 years imprisonment if he told the
media that the FBI were involved in the aborted raid on the Brown's
property.

Riley was then ordered to lie to the media and tell them that during
his morning walk, he had not seen armed U.S. Marshals but plain
clothed police officers who were merely serving a warrant for the
seizure of the Brown's dental office 10 miles away, and that the
officers had simply tackled and not shot at or tasered him after he
ran. Riley was told that if he didn't lie to the media he was facing
certain prison time or even death.


Danny Riley shows where he was tasered by U.S. Marshals in a video
blog released yesterday.

Riley was then dropped off back at the Brown's home after the media
had been allowed to approach the house. In an act of astounding
courage, Riley ignored the media as they yelled questions at him and
headed straight into the house to tell Ed Brown that the FBI had
ordered him to lie.

Riley then emerged from the house and told the authorities what they
wanted to hear - that he had relayed the cover story to the media.
Riley was then dropped off at a bus station and told by authorities
that if he returned to the scene he would either be imprisoned or killed.

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Despite the fact that Riley bravely ignored the threats and did not
relay the cover-story, the local media still bought the police's
explanation that they had never planned to raid the house and that,
after erecting roadblocks a mile around, evacuating neighbors, cutting
the Brown's phone and power lines and deploying 6 helicopters along
with a SWAT team and APC's, they were merely serving a warrant for an
empty property 10 miles away.

Danny Riley is risking his life by telling the truth - that New
Hampshire police, led by the FBI, had conducted prior surveillance of
the property and were in place about to launch a violent siege against
Ed and Elaine Brown before Riley's chance encounter with U.S. Marshals
led officials to abort the raid and manufacture a cover-story which
they then tried to intimidate Riley into selling to the local media.

This represents open fraud, deceit and extortion on behalf of New
Hampshire police as well as the FBI and Danny Riley's testimony
demands immediate attention from national as well as local media in
the New Hampshire area.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2007/080607federalassault.htm

Bald Eagle

If you want to do it, do it BIG.

Let get a hearse and some flag-covered caskets and have a funeral procession all the way to the Brown's house.  "We're on our way there to pay our last respects."  "we're returning a good friend to the Earth and seeing him off to meet Jesus."

Since it's the next Waco, let's have body bags for all 83 people that they burned to death for their own good.  It's good that all those loving families are safe now.  Print out photos of all the women and children and loving fathers.  Have a memorial for Vicki, Sam, and Elisheba Weaver as well.  Start diggin two 6-foot holes right in front of the house as you drive up.  Erect a massive funeral pyre.

"This is what you want, isn't it, oh mighty Rulers?  You can take our lives, but you cannot take our pride in being principled people.  You can murder us because you think that is fair according to your rules, but you cannot take our freedom, you cannot re-enslave us.  We are beyond that.  It is your choice how to handle this.  We only want to see the law that you claim exists, that you claim we violated, that you claim obligates us to hand over what is ours.  We only want the simplest most fundamental and logical thing that an American can request and legitimately expect from a government of, by and for the People.  We consent to grant you your just powers on the the condition that we receive due process in our dealing with the resulting government."

Who are the people in NH that are complicit in harassing Ed for a federal issue, and who are the militant thugs who are volunteering - who's signing up to dress up like soldier and GET Ed and Elaine?  That's where the focus should be.  Questions should be asked about the fundamental issues of jusridiction and just powers derived from the consent of the governed.  State of NH employees should not be enforcing, assisting, supporting, cooperating with, or backing up agents of federal government.  That's not what our extortion money is supposed to be for.  It's for the children. 

Signs should be erected as physical barriers to an attack on Ed and Elaine's home.  Signs reminding alleged peace officers of their Oath of office and duty to protect the Constitution for the united states of America and the Constitution of the State of NH.  Signs proclaiming the limitations set upon government in Article I, section 8 and in the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution - signs that must be physically and symbolically destroyed to get to the Browns.  Other signs and symbols should pervade the area as well to give the press and the nation lasting images of what tyranny disregards in their lust and zeal for power and control. 

"In case of "following orders" to murder fellow American citizens, break glass"
"All you have to do is show what law you're enforcing."
"Don't we have a right to know what law you're enforcing?   :dontknow:"
"Don't you have a duty to show what law you're enforcing?"
"Don't you have a duty to KNOW what law you're enforcing?   :book1:"
"Please don't murder for money."
"Please stop.  The Browns are our friends.   :hug45:"

Do the Browns have children and grandchildren?  "Please don't kill my grandpa  :'("

"Porcupines are like dandelions.  Kill one, and 5 more spring up in their place."

Let's go gang, let's hear some more....



coffeeseven

I have a Radio Shack surveillance camera model 49-2513 that is still in the box. It has a motion sensor with alarm and it sees pretty well in the dark as it has infrared. If Ed and Elaine want it I will send it FOC. Can someone please find out if they do? I mean, I have no problem with sending it if they will use it. If not, I'd rather put my time and money wherever else they think it will do the most good.

Like out of the hands of "our" government.  ;)

TackleTheWorld

I brought a 4 camera, motion detecting, surveillance system to Ed a few months back.  He didn't want it.  I've got it at my barn now. 
What he would like is a wireless remote control camera network that has a range of 1/2 mile and passively monitors the infrared spectrum for motion and and shape, and never makes a false alarm.  That's a pretty tall order. 

Bald Eagle

Anything here that might help?

www.scdlink.com

Hey E-ville - do you have any recommendations for a good, small, inconspicuous video camera?  I've seen some very small ones for sale, but don't know what quality they are and haven't had much time for shopping lately.  I hope to have a good all-around recording device for my exploits in NH.

Lauren, what did you use to tape the traffic stop for driving without a license and registration?  I think my blood pressure and heart rate would be ... elevated during something like that.  Good for you!  You go gurl!  I look forward to reading updates and hearing more at PorCFest.

JosephSHaas

Quote from: Defender of Liberty on June 09, 2007, 11:12 PM NHFT
I would recommend against making molotov coctails.  I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have the materials at the Browns' property, but I wouldn't assemble them unless you are attacked.(*)
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XII/158/158-37.htm
Quote158:37 Use of Molotov Cocktail; Penalty. – Whoever makes, sells, uses or has in his possession or under his control a bottle or other breakable container containing a flammable liquid into which has been fixed or placed a wick or similar device, and which bottle or container when ignited and thrown will cause a fire or explosion, shall be subject to the following penalty:
    I. If the offense occurs prior to November 1, 1973, he shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned for not more than 2 1/2 years, or both.
    II. If the offense occurs on or after November 1, 1973, he shall, if a natural person, be guilty of a Class B felony, and any other person shall be guilty of a felony.
    The provisions of this section shall not apply to flares, lanterns, fireworks or other such devices used for signal or illumination purposes, or items used for any other lawful purpose.

Source. 1973, 419:1, eff. Aug. 29, 1973.
If you have lanterns, which are often made of glass, contain fuel and a wick, then they are OK to have according to statute.
JP8 is not only jet fuel, but is also the fuel used in many military trucks.  It is also known as diesel fuel.

I think information and communications will be key to winning freedom.
....

Thanks Defender,

Maybe Ed's case might test the un-lawfulness of this statute as being against his Article 10 Rights to Revolt in whatever manner he can and ought to do, as in Part the First & Bill of Rights of our New Hampshire Constitution that reads that it is "absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind" when you do NOT resist against "arbitrary power" ...

...as in this judicial and executive usurpation of the N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 statute as by Art.I,Sec.8,Cl.17 U.S. Const. while our legislators, whose predecessors put this on the books back in 1883, walk about the State House as Zombies similar to those feeding ghouls in that movie: "The Night of The Living Dead". The ghouls being in this case the sicko State Troopers deviating from their LAW ENFORCEMENT of FROM RSA 123:1 to act on ANY orders from the Feds no matter how unlawful +/or illegal they be, to "feed on corpses." SICK! is right! While those members of the General Court, especially those in the House State-Federal Relations Committee who refused to House Rule 36 endorse my Art. 32 petition on this subject to get it to a Public Hearing by House Rule 4, INSTEAD:  feed their faces! eating goulash at one of the many Concord restaurants. Maybe one establishment to call it the Traitor Treat and dare any State Representative to eat it! But For Sale to the public at a special price: $________, with __% of the proceeds to the Ed Brown defense fund to set up at the ______________ Bank, Account #_____________________ to where donations may be made.  The goulash defined @ p.  309 of my AMERICAN HERITANGE DICTIONARY as: "A meat and vegetable stew seasoned mainly with paprika. [Hung gulyas (hus), 'herdsman's meat.']" See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoul  ...

...And WHY resist only to the point of being captured by superior power, like for the tanks to overrun the property!?  Ed has got to have these Molotov Cocktails made ahead of time(*) to Art. 14 "prompt"ly offset such an attack of beyond an assault, because an assault is technically a pre-liminary attack, before the threshold OFF the property.  So WHERE exactly were the camouflaged Federal goons at the end of the driveway?, WHEN they shouted to Riley to stop, and since Riley was running back TO the house, they must have trespassed ONto the grounds in violation of the sign I saw there Wednesday night telling them to call by telephone to the number listed BEFORE they do ENTER.  "Them" of WHO? The State Police or Marshals, or Treasury Agents instead cutting the telephone line, and UNDER what authority?  RSA 123:1 reads that BEFORE they/ the Feds can operate here they must first file papers with Bill Gardner's Office of Secretary of State, and THEN maybe have that power. So can somebody find out exactly WHERE on this line from the pole it was cut? photograph that as evidence, and contact the telephone company _____________ for their records of this either BEFORE +/or AFTER the raid...

...And what of the electric power off for a while earlier during the week for the entire road?  Was this really from the thunderstorm or was that a convenient cover-up for what was to happen next. To check on the source of that too, and when/how repaired and by WHO? because according to the N.H. Public Ulities Commission from their front page of: http://www.puc.state.nh.us/ over to http://www.puc.state.nh.us/Home/aboutus.htm "it is the NHPUC's mission to ENSURE that customers of regulated utilities receive safe, adequate and RELIABLE service at reasonable rates." (emphasis ADDed); See also http://www.oca.nh.gov/index.htm for The Office of Consumer Advocate who could be contacted about this to investigate for us? Or maybe ask or comment that this be on the very top of the to-do list for when the G&C appoints Thomas B. Getz of Manchester as the new Commissioner, see http://www.nh.gov/council/publichearing.html for this Tuesday, June 12 '07 @ 2:00 PM in the EXECUTIVE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, State House, 2nd floor to where you can address your question of comment.

Yours truly, - - Joe Haas

P.S. #1 See also http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/lviii/570-a/570-a-mrg.htm for PUBLIC JUSTICE RSA Ch. 570-A:1-11 for WIRETAPPING as only to be authorized under 570-A:7 by the Attorney General, and for RSA 642:6 the escape clause I presume in this case, to find out by a F.O.I.A. request for the report "to the administrative office of the United States Courts" by RSA 570-A:10,I

P.S. #2 WHAT IF a medical emergency call to 9-1-1 had to be made AGAIN as it was back on _____  __ '07? Who would be responsible? for any death thereby to maybe even a visitor! The Press keeps on writing about the government having learned from Ruby Ridge of so many years ago, but really? See this Death Death case of just Dec. 26 '06 last year! http://bothwell.typepad.com/whos_your_nanny/files/Dean_Death_Investigation.pdf in Maryland involving the State Police and Sheriff in both the inner and outer perimeter respectfully, on a death that didn't have to be!  See page #__ of 15 and the quote that: "it is the obligation of the police to ptotect and preserve life". [From: Google for "United States" Police phone lines cut, page 1 #4.]


Riflemanshoots

#141
I wouldn't  :icon_pi   l set myself on fire to protest an injustice,but I can come up with a very long list of things I'd rather burn to the goddamn ground.
Seriously, if the Browns are murdered by the fascists , an eye for an eye would be justified. take em out one at a time, no fancy footwork here,just straightforward  swift attacks on all the scum involved from the local New Hampshire goons to the feds.... Traitors  need to removed from their positions of power.


Singing We Shall Overcome ain't gonna make it with these scum.
I gotta new song for ya'll..."Let The Bodies Hit The Floor"....

No more sticking  flowers in gun barrels, feeding a full magazine into a nicely tuned rifle is gonna be the deciding factor with these asshole in power.

JosephSHaas

Quote from: FTL_Ian on June 07, 2007, 12:23 PM NHFT
ATF headed for Brown's now - updates & discussion thread here:  http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9113.0

Thanks FTL_IAN,

--I've posted a few reports over there where some readers here might like to check out too.

--The latest at http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9113.255 for My Reply #264 on page 18 so far @ 7:01 p.m. tonight. [plus two replies on page 17].

Best wishes, - Joe

Riflemanshoots


E-ville

Quote from: Lex Berezhny on June 09, 2007, 11:04 PM NHFT
Quote from: E-ville on June 09, 2007, 10:51 PM NHFT
cat 5 can transmit video thousands of feet with the right blaun converters

What are blaun converters? Specifically, how do they extend the range of cat5? The maximum distance for plain old cat5 is a little over 300 ft so I think it would be pretty amazing to increase that to thousands of feet as you suggest.

These convert standard video and audio to be transmitted over cat5.. not digitizing the signal but just making the ohms ect match the cable.

here is a what they are:
http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/products/niles/c5-video-audioblaun.html

Remember that anything transmitted over internet can be blocked or stopped easily..  you need a wayto capture this information off site so when the stuff goes down you can get to it.. because there going to take everything form the houe and hide it away for a long long time if its a Waco style thing.

Best bet would to get them a nice big TV transmitter that transmitts about 30 miles..  let evert ne with a TV be a possbaly person recording and viewing it..

This war isn't going to be won by force its going to be won through information dispersal and supporting those in trouble. This revolution will be on the information not the force involved..

The Ron Paul campaign is already proving this exact fact.. look at his popularity on the internet and other information sources.

IF you don't want the feds toinvade the browns get a way to monitor and record there homestead.. that will deter them and will also be the proof needed if the go through with it. Using a ISP or Cell service isnt going to cut it as you already know the feds just go to to these companies and make them turn it off. you need to be in control of it.. you need to broadcast from that site in some way or another.  Wireless networks can transmit a mile or so with a shotgun style antenna..  Some one said there was a fire tower or something like this a mile away with direct line of sight to there house.  You could shoot a wifi signal out to that tower and record it to hard disk there and then retransmitt it somewhere else with a cell data card..  A directional wifi signal is harder to detect or block. All thgough it can be done..  other ideas would include  parabolic satalite dishes, they can transmitt a FCC legal wifi signal many many miles.

I feel that the only way to really stop the feds is to make it impossably to have there security from the media..

Remember they blocaded the roads stopped reporters and stoped air traffic.. there really worried about this getting out, they were going to invade on this last attempt.. take this oppertunity to fix it becuae next time it wont go so well unless we foul up there plans... like the dog walker and the local supporters did this last time..  Next time there going to turn it up some more.. My bet is a just all out raid.. no warning and over in 10 minutes.  they will rollin and do it, No time for a response locally.. we have to be p repaired before they do so... not after the fact.

Dave Ridley

some good ideas you have e-ville

a continuous video broadcast is a great idea.

E-ville

Also remember they could place a guy with a 50mm at the end of there driveway and just start plucking people off at the house if they can see it from the road.. a 50mm can go 1.5 miles with great accuracy.. Also remember that the browns could have a 50mm and do the same to the feds. Arn't double edge swords bad or great depending on what side of it your on.

supperman15

now its neg 4 whats with that???


I think the key is to reinvent the weel  the more theatrical it is the more efectiv it would be.  also i was watching the west wing and the charicter Toby made a good point, that activism isnt just about agitating the state its about activating the masses, let the cops do there own thing, if they think your holding moltoff coctails that sucks, but there will be video cameras...  there should be someone there.  even if you just have one person on the lawn 24 hours a day to say "I am watching"  think about it, one person standing with a candle 24hrs a day seven days a week could me really powerfull.  and if they keep getting arested what does that say?

E-ville

#148
Yeah I Just wish i could be there to put them in place..  But informing people that are local may help..  a pair of cat 5 to video blauns and a roll of  cat5 could be a very easy and cheap way to get the needed surveillance off site. add a vcr  and a 4 hour tape and some volenteers. I would also say transmitt audio and video over the internet through as many service providers as possable cell modems satslite, direct wifi point to point transmissions etc. Also do live FM and Am transmissions, and HAM and CB radio, also those little FM 2 mile radios..  make it as hard as possable for these goons to be unseen.. the worst that could happen is they go in and kill everyone and there is evidence of it all over the places that they can't control.. The feds rule by force and control if you have the upper hand by having that control then you win.  Its kind of blackmail in a way but you making it publicly known there for it's not really blackmail.

We pay these goons paychecks so its our right to be able to see what there doing on our dime..  So let the world see what there doing on it.

This for me isn't a tax issue it's a moral rights issue.  The government does not own people.

Kat Kanning

Quote from: E-ville on June 10, 2007, 07:31 PM NHFT
Also remember they could place a guy with a 50mm at the end of there driveway and just start plucking people off at the house if they can see it from the road.. a 50mm can go 1.5 miles with great accuracy.. Also remember that the browns could have a 50mm and do the same to the feds. Arn't double edge swords bad or great depending on what side of it your on.

No, they can't do that.  Can't see the house...way too far away.