• Welcome to New Hampshire Underground.
 

News:

Please log in on the special "login" page, not on any of these normal pages. Thank you, The Procrastinating Management

"Let them march all they want, as long as they pay their taxes."  --Alexander Haig

Main Menu

Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 15

Started by Dave Ridley, June 07, 2007, 04:54 PM NHFT

Previous topic - Next topic

Kat Kanning

The video was posted on both the blog and ed's myspace, so I assume they believed it to be true.

burnthebeautiful

He says he just got back from "New Jersey, Ed Browns house". Eh?

lildog

Quote from: cxxguy on June 07, 2007, 09:10 PM NHFT
I hope that the browns have cameras mounted in the house, and feeding off-site storage.

A live web feed would be very cool.

Kat Kanning

Going to be on WTRN from 10:00-11:00, talking about what happened yesterday.  It's wtrn.com - Katherine Albriecht's radio show.

Dave Ridley

#64
sent this to most of the big NH media outlets.  have not sent it outside NH or sent it to the small outlets.  if someone could send it to the smaller outlets or web forums that would be great.


-----

Fed detainee in Plainfield says authorities shot at him

From NHfree.com:

A man claiming to be the individual detained outside Ed Brown's place....is claiming in a Google video that he was fired upon twice after discovering, then fleeing, camouflaged men in the woods.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3083052001159394679&hl=en

Presumably these were warning shots, but in the video the man claims the rounds passed by him close enough that he could feel them whiz by.  His name is said to be Dave Riley (not to be confused with me; I have a somewhat similar name).

The source on this is the NHfree.com forum:

http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9113.195

Folks there are seeking confirmation that the video and the claims are authentic. 

In related news from the same thread, the Browns' phone line is said to have been mysteriously reconnected. 

According to one of her staffers, Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter has issued an e-mail claiming that she got a call from a neighbor of Ed's who was upset with the police and fearful of "another Waco."  Upon inquiring with the Marshals, she claims told her they intended to arrest Ed, but events did not go according to plan.

A small number of demonstrators will converge on the Federal building in Manchester from 2p-3:30p on Friday June 8, according to a different NHfree.com thread:

http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9118.0

Another anti-Federal demonstration is planned in Keene the same day, according to calendar.nhfree.com

The demonstrators say they are particularly concerned over the allegations that nearby residents were forced to leave their homes and that state police assisted Washington in this raid.

For additional information or if you're away from the Internet you can reach me at (603) 721-1490

Dave at NHfree.com

Dan

Quote from: Kat Kanning on June 08, 2007, 08:44 AM NHFT
Going to be on WTRN from 10:00-11:00, talking about what happened yesterday.  It's wtrn.com - Katherine Albriecht's radio show.

I'm listening now.  You did great Kat!

ancapagency

Ron had a good idea:

Get a bunch of folks together with backpacks filled with fresh produce, and everyone will try to "infiltrate" the Brown's "compound" at the same time.  Everyone who gets in provides the browns with fresh food (enabling their stores to last longer) and everyone who gets caught will 1) tie up cops, distracting them from the others; and 2) will necessitate the cops deciding how many of these cases they actually want to take to court and prosecute, with any jury having to decide whether someone walking through the woods with produce is a "criminal."

Also, even if they decide to prosecute a number of these cases, how many different juries will they have to empanel, how will they control the news, and so on.

ancapagency

Ron had a good idea:

Get a bunch of folks together with backpacks filled with fresh produce, and everyone will try to "infiltrate" the Brown's "compound" at the same time.  Everyone who gets in provides the browns with fresh food (enabling their stores to last longer) and everyone who gets caught will 1) tie up cops, distracting them from the others; and 2) will necessitate the cops deciding how many of these cases they actually want to take to court and prosecute, with any jury having to decide whether someone walking through the woods with produce is a "criminal."

Also, even if they decide to prosecute a number of these cases, how many different juries will they have to empanel, how will they control the news, and so on.

ancapagency

I spent a while in the Army as a Cavalry Scout.  The whole purpose of that job is to seek out the enemy, report back to the main body, and screen the location and such of the main body from the enemy.

That being said, I'd like to educate our folks on a simple little reporting system so they can get the information we need when they encounter things like this.  First of all, remember the word "SALUTE."

Size
Activity
Location
Unit
Time
Equipment

Size--give us numbers; approximately how many were there?

Activity--what were they doing? Road blocks, traffic control, setting up a command post, arresting people, evacuations, what?

Location--where were they exactly? How were they emplaced?

Unit--who were they? SS, ATF, US Marshals, NH State Police, Mass Police, Local cops?

Time--when exactly did you see this?  Pin it down as close as possible.

Equipment--what did they have? Armored vehicles (how many and what kind)? Fire trucks, ambulances, SWAT vans, rifles, snipers, automatic weapons, etc.

Make sure you give us all the facts you can, even things that you're sure of but which don't seem that important right now.  Obviously the SALUTE Report is the most important, but anything else could very well make a difference.  Then, after providing the facts, please give us your opinions and suppositions--your unconscious mind may have picked up something your conscious mind didn't, and your guesses and gut feelings may give us something that we can corroborate from another source. 

Also, don't just report on the enemy--report on anyone else there.  The media, folks you know to be Porcupines and such and other allies, etc.  Information and our ability to react accordingly will enable us to out-maneuver the enemy.  And the better we get at this, the better we will get at forcing them to react to us, rather than having to react to them.  When we take and hold the initiative, we win.

Braddogg

Self-immolation is a time-honored way to protest violence against others.

JosephSHaas

#70
Quote from: JosephSHaas on February 12, 2007, 09:41 AM NHFT
Quote from: JosephSHaas on February 12, 2007, 01:06 AM NHFT
Quote from: DadaOrwell on February 11, 2007, 04:07 PM NHFT
edbrown.org now has a discussion forum up and active

http://www.edbrown.org/yabb/YaBB.pl

It will be a source of discomfort for ed's enemies if that forum takes off...so I have registered there, and will be active there, and I hope you will too.



To call The Secretary of the Treasury, Henry M. Paulson, Jr. (who makes $183,500/yr.) at Tel. (202) 622-2000 for "General Information" as to maybe WHO* he might have delegated this authority to to accept or reject such an ORDER from a crooked and illegal court. The Main Treasury, 1500 Pensylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20220 * Deputy Secretary Rbt. M. Kimmitt?


Update: I called the 202: 622-2000 telephone # above at from about 10-10:12 a.m. this morning and:

(1) first got into automation of: press 1- for IRS... and zero 0- for assistance... that I did getting:

(2) Mary, who said that Henry was busy, and referred me over to Kathy at 622-9600 who told me that Eric Hample, is the Director of The Office of Asset Forfeiture, 1341 G. St., Suite 900, Washington, D.C. 20220, and that I ought to leave a message with Bill Bradley, his legal counsel, at direct dial 622-2252 and so I did and telling him that if and when the paperwork arrives from the Ed Brown/I.R.S. case from here in New Hampshire he should not accept it but instead: reject it, as I can explain over the phone to him, but better to send this to him in writing, the bottom line being that our state prevents the federalies from acting withIN this state until the RSA 123:1 paperwork is filed first according to Art.I, Sec. 8, cl. 17 of 18 in the U.S. Constitution, as any ORDER from the U.S. District Court not yet so ordered, is OUT-OF-ORDER and to be rejected as DENIED for their writing that the Secretary SHALL and WILL publish such an Order and "the Treasury Department's intent to dispose of the property listed in the Preliminary Order of Forfeiture"....

Yours truly, - - Joe / Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059.

Update: I spoke with Eric Hampel this morning, and he knows nothing of this "Ed Brown" case, advising that I contact the Boston IRS Office http://www.irs.gov/foia/article/0,,id=120681,00.html for WHO (___________) it is that requested the Marshals to assist them in serving the seizure papers on Ed yesterday, the name maybe in the File #06-cr-71-01/02-SM that showed nothing new on the computer screen when I did visit the court in Concord at almost 4:00 p.m. closing time again, the office workers NOT volunteering any info that some paper was sitting on their desk for computer entry as document no. ___ as Gary told me was the case today.

WHO-ever ordered this is OUT-OF-ORDER, as per the above information, and needs to be reprimanded by the Secretary, who if he fails to do so, ought to be replaced by the next President, maybe Ron Paul. Same goes for replacing Thomas Colantuono, as the U.S. Attorney, and Steven Monier, the U.S. Marshal. The "opinions" from the courts, that these executive officers make their "decisions" on, are just that: opinions that when compared to the law, and are deviant therefrom, shall be returned like in a non-est return to the court stamped VOID: No N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 papers on file, as required by Art.I,Sec.8,U.S.Const.

Since the Sullivan County Sheriff, Michael Prozzo, see http://www.sullivancountynh.gov/sheriff/index.htm has been alerted of this non-filing by the Feds, he KNOWS in the culpable mental state of NOT to assist them with their dirty deeds.  Same goes to the Lebanon Police on alert by the paperwork to the City Council Wednesday night, by me at about 8:37 p.m. to share with the Grafton County Sherriff, Doug Dutile, who wasn't in today when I called him and also left messages for the governor and some of the Executive Council to AGAIN remind him of his Art. 41+ 51 duty to enforce all legislative mandates, as by the "shall" word, Sen. John E. Sununu's Nashua office giving me the run-around back to the Secretary of State instead of telling me WHO this RSA 123:1 federal officer is supposed to be!

I find it very disgusting that the Marshals would contact maybe somebody way down the totem pole, instead of the head of State Police, Frederick Booth who knows or should know of what his people deal with and that included my Sat., Jan. 13th e-mail to their Investigative Services Bureau (isb) of this RSA 123:1 fact and non-filing thereto by the Feds.  I charge him with being too lazy to alert Troops C + F of these facts, to let them run roughshod over the law as out-laws, as Ed spoke about on Channel 9 last night on the 11:30 p.m. WMUR News after the basketball game.  See http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/contactus.html

While looking for the IRS Boston at http://www.google.com I found at the top of page #1 there the Ted Craft, Attorney website of http://www.taxrisk.com/Criminal_Tax.shtml and that I had a nice chat with him on the phone about a Beverly Farms, MAss. IRS similar incident back in the 1980s that he helped to solve for the defendant. And that maybe if somebody can send a $5,000 retainer donation to him for to start Ed's case, this case might be able to get back on track, the track being of both within the legal and the law!!

In the meantime a copy of this is going over to: Major Susan Forey,, Field Operations, 33 Hazen Dr., Room 200, Concord, N.H. 03301 603: 271-3793 as my RSA Ch. 91-A Right to know [within five (5) business days] of WHO from the Marshal's Office contacted the State Police for assistance, because THEY did not give you the complete picture that includes this RSA 123:1 element, and that ought to result in an apology from the Marshal and HALT from further corruption in either: (1) this seizure* going to a forfeiture, and (2) any attempt at an arrest of Ed on the illegal bench warrant. What I'm looking for is a copy of that letter of request for assistance, +/or memo pads thereto related.

*The seizure being a taking control of the 27 Glen Road property http://www.keenefreepress.com/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&talk=view&id=535&Itemid=36 +/or http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2007/070607_b_Theft.htm for the pictures, see also: http://data.visionappraisal.com/LebanonNH/pqarcel.asp?pid=3333 for the Assessment value at exactly: $833,500. 

So WHERE was the City Protection by Police Chief? since by Article 12, N.H. Const., Part the First this is a RIGHT, and not a merely privilege that can be given away!? I think Ed & Elaine ought to get their $___________ property taxes returned! as the City's non-performance of the duty they paid for but did not receive!

In fact, since an attachment is a taking, and the locks having been broken into, "Breaking & Entering" RSA Ch. _____ N.H. CRIMINAL CODE, and replaced by WHO? _____________ (a local locksmith?) the building has, in effect, been stolen, and so the sevenfold formula of to charge the thief 7 times the $amount stolen enters the picture by Public Law 97-280, 96 Statute 1211 of Oct. 4, 1982 = the Year of the Bible for 1983 & Beyond, see: Proverbs 6:30-31. So over $800,000 x 7 = $5,600,000 + due the Browns by the Feds and City BEFORE this case gets back on track.

Yours truly, - - Joe Haas

Modification: The City of Lebanon Tax Collector @ 448-1720 says the taxes are up-to-date.  ATT / the owner of record paid $17,312.00 last year, and are billed twice a year: $8661.00 due July 1st, and then another bill to be sent out November 1st.  So WHO can rent there, and WHAT are the terms? by Marshal!?

Bald Eagle


"Ed and Elaine Brown at their fortified hilltop compound in rural Plainfield"

What's it fortified with - niacin?  Aren't all his neighbors on the same hilltop as well?  I mean, it is NEW HAMPSHIRE - there might be a few hills here and there...   And the proper definition of a compound: an enclosure of residences and other buildings.  Where's the enclosure?  The Nazis had compounds for the Jews, the US had compounds for the Japanese - but as far as I can tell, Ed and Elaine don't have one.

"The home has a watchtower, concrete walls and the ability to run on wind and solar power. Ed Brown, who has at least one gun, has said he has stockpiled food and supplies and would resist arrest."

It's got a watchtower?  Really?  Where?  Did the Mormons build it?
Solar and wind power are instantly transformed from environmentally responsible to ... nefarious because they're not paying extortion money?  And - oh my god - he's got at least one gun?  Oooooooooh.  I'd give them apoplexy.
Ed and Brown MUST be Mormons - with all that food.  Aren't they supposed to have AT LEAST a year's food and supplies put away?

"A man who has holed up with armed supporters in his cement-walled house for most of his tax evasion trial was found guilty yesterday, along with his wife, of failing to pay federal income taxes for a decade."

How does one "hole up?"  Is Ed part rabbit?  Don't the FEDGOV thugs have armed supporters and cement-walled offices?  Have you ever tried to access bureaucrats?  Talk about holed-up.  Talk about hypocrisy.

It's enough to make a reasonable man sick.

CNHT

It's all part of the typical attempt to verbally paint a picture of militant attitudes on the part of the 'resisters'.

Ed lives in an typical NH mansion... For some reason people think we live in shacks up here, when it's really Beverly Hills North.

I'd describe his house as a luxurious modern home on a gentleman's farm.

Note: cement-walled makes it sound like they are living in some sort of foundation of an unfinished home.. LOL

JosephSHaas

For Sale: "Spacious single family home in a country setting.  Home has in law apartments, a 36 x 48 detatched horse barn and paddocks.  A rare find in Plainfield. Conveniently located between Routes 12A and Route 120" at 245 Center of Town road to be exact.  MLS #2656365 by Century 21 for: $349,000

See: http://www.verani.com or to be exact=
http://www.verani.com/nh/real-estate/mls/2656365/property-search

So if the Feds tell you to get lost, off of Center of Town Road UNLESS you live there, tell them you want to look at this House For Sale!  >:D and "scope out" the neighborhood.

Kat Kanning

Katherine was really good this morning about dispelling the "compound" thing - it's a house, sheesh.