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Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 17

Started by LordBaltimore, June 15, 2007, 08:04 PM NHFT

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E-ville

They now have independant media to deal with.. I dont exactly like alex jones but he is doing a good job of keping the feds in check on this one.

Even if a it is another waco with no media coverage the news will get out afterwords as we the freedom fighters wont let this go down without a fight.

YEs they learned there lesson, look at the ay they captured th dog walker, blocking off the roads and commanding airplanes from the sky.. they learned quite well..









E-ville

Just got done watching the pres conference on WMUR.. I like that one reporter brought up the case that the Jury ruled against the Judge's "law" Brought some awareness that we the people can change this.

Free Mexican-Not Stamped

I caught some of the press conference on Alex Jones.  Randy Weaver was pretty convincing talking about not believing in Jesus or the government and how religion and government were created to control people.

QuoteIt is only about once every three months or so that...

Thanks for the vote of confidence Mr. Orwell, but at the little bit of the press conference that I heard I didn't hear anybody tell the press that the main issue is the Browns not being allowed to present their case to a jury and have the jury decide whether there "is a law." 

After the excellent lead in by Weaver about the murder of his family and then his not believing in Jesus, it would have been great to hear Weaver say that all that the Browns are asking for is to have a jury decide whether or not there "is a law."  Of course the church and the state are going to say there's a law, but in the U.S. John Adams says that we get to have a jury decide.




Dave Ridley

#108
plz send this out

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Two Ed Brown supporters allegedly detained

From NHfree.com
June 18, 2007 3:25 p.m.

According to

http://makethestand.com/ftopict-172.html

Two supporters of tax protestor Ed Brown have been arrested or detained.

One of those detained is allegedly Danny Riley.  Riley is the man who was tasered on June 7 after stumbling upon snipers in the woods near Brown's home.   Later that day he appeared in a Google video...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4022536266254985207&q=danny+riley&total=190&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

...telling his story and claiming that authorities threatened him with arrest if he....told his story.

The other alleged arrestee/detainee is thus far unnamed.

MakeTheStand.com administrator Shaun Kranish is urging readers to come to the defense of any detained Brown supporters by spreading the word about this situation.   Concerned citizens wishing to register their disaproval to government officials, can find a list of contact information at:

http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9119.0

In other news, large "Free Ed Brown" signs are said to be appearing on Boston-area overpasses. 
http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=3868.msg162211#msg162211

And the recent Federal show of force in Plainfield has triggered an unprecedented wave of membership growth on anti-Washington web forums.   The primary Ed Brown forum, MakeTheStand.com, has tripled its membership since June 7, racking up sixty-six new participants on June 13 alone.  Join rates quadrupled at the more New Hampshire-centric NHfree.com forum; stats on the Ed Brown related "Quest for Fair Trial" blog indicate 24,000 visits between June 7 and June 14, a seven-fold increase over the preceding weeks.

Normally courteous admins at the New Hampshire Department of Safety have been refusing to take Brown-related messages for State Trooper headman Frederick Booth and, according to the Union Leader...U.S. Marshals in Concord report fielding almost two hundred concerned calls during a one hour period last week. 

Lastly, and well reported elsewhere, reporters have converged on the Brown property to witness a joint news conference with Brown, possibly his wife Elaine, and Ruby Ridge survivor Randy Weaver. 

Contacts:  Kat Dillon (603) 357-2049,  Dave Ridley (603) 721-1490
Shaun Kranish:  shaun at makethestand dot com

Dave Ridley

http://www.wmur.com/news/13521122/detail.html

this part was troubling:

"Selectmen recently sent a letter to federal officials stating that they believe the time has come for definitive action."

Dave Ridley

sent above release to monitor, union leader, wmur, alex jones, valley news, sentinel, wkbk.

Oldmanofthemountain

Dada,

We have a pretty good thread about this over on the Glenn Beck forum, and a lot of support, I have been keeping them up to date. With your permission, can I copy your " send this out " post over there?

E-ville

Quote from: DadaOrwell on June 18, 2007, 03:48 PM NHFT
http://www.wmur.com/news/13521122/detail.html

this part was troubling:

"Selectmen recently sent a letter to federal officials stating that they believe the time has come for definitive action."


Yes thats bad, sounds as if the free state still has a bunch of bad Apples in the drivers seat...  Maybe the definitive action should start with Porc fest this week.. march over to these "mini thugs" and give then a nice sampling of some free speech and assembly.. Maybe a bit of civil disobedience?

Any one see any major media outlet coverage of the press conference? From the footage I saw on wmur there were alot of news outlets there, at least 8 microphones on the podium.

The one thing I thought was cool is that Randy Weaver is atheist and the Browns are religious, and look, they split there diffrences amd banded together on this freedom issue.. makes it very identifiable with everyone.

The other thing i saw was that one reporter saying that they were racially prejudice and he set them in place.. stating that anyone from any nationality is welcomed to stay and even invited some unseen dark skinned person in the crowd to spend time at there place..

E-ville

Kat Kanning

Looks like he meant for it to be passed around.

Oldmanofthemountain

I finally heard this on our local news here in PA this afternoon. With Dada's permission, I will send his post out to all central PA tv stations and radio stations.

Oldmanofthemountain


Kat Kanning


E-ville

There is a hipcast on the top of the Browns Blog:
http://questforfairtrialinconcordnh.blogspot.com/

Scary crap the feds are doing, "statetroopers" in unmarked SUV'S with no name tags on there uniforms, these "troopers" refuse to give there name and badge number..  WELCOME TO THE POLICE STATE!

E-ville

LordBaltimore

Ruby Ridge leader warns the Browns
By Associated Press
Monday, June 18, 2007 - Updated: 06:19 PM EST

PLAINFIELD, N.H. - Randall Weaver, the symbol of everything the government hopes to avoid with convicted tax evaders Ed and Elaine Brown, offered advice to the fugitives and warnings to federal agents at the Browns' fortified home Monday afternoon.

    Weaver's wife and son and a deputy U.S. marshal were killed during the infamous Ruby Ridge shootout with federal agents in Idaho in 1992. He visited the Browns' hilltop home on Monday to raise the specter of the botched federal raid and lend his cult-like celebrity to the tax evaders' cause.

    "We said, 'This is it, we're not going to take it any more' ... This is serious stuff. Bring it on," Weaver said during a news conference on the Browns' front porch. "I ain't afraid of dying no more. I'm curious about the afterlife. And I'm an atheist."

    During the sometimes hostile news conference that had Weaver and Ed Brown shouting insults at reporters, the speakers and their supporters repeated their claims that income taxes are voluntary, and any tax on labor amounts to slavery.

    "The bottom line is: Show us the law, we will pay what you ask," Ed Brown said. "They can't do it, folks."

    The Browns' home, which he calls a castle, has 8-inch concrete walls, a turret that offers a 360-degree view of the property and a driveway that is sometimes barricaded with SUVs. The 110-acre compound is self-sufficient and is capable of running entirely through solar, wind and geothermal energies.

    Weaver said he would help the Browns fight "only in self-defense."

    "I've been shot in the back and that's no fun," said Weaver, who brought pictures of his slain family to the podium.

    Officials cut power last week in an effort to ratchet up pressure on the couple convicted of scheming to avoid federal income taxes by hiding $1.9 million of income between 1996 and 2003. The Browns said they hadn't noticed.

    Ed Brown has threatened "guerrilla warfare" and retaliation against those who played a role in his conviction. He has said he resigned to become a martyr for what prosecutors called novel interpretations of tax law during his trial, which he skipped.

    The Browns' claim the federal income tax is not legitimate has drawn support from so-called "patriot" and militia groups. Supporters from as far away as Texas also have brought weapons and supplies. One has posted photographs on the Internet of himself posing with automatic riffles.

    The Browns were joined Monday by several of their supporters, waving "Don't Tread on Me" flags and "Don't Murder the Browns for Money" signs.

    It's this support that prompted a panic in Plainfield two weeks ago, when heavily armed police surrounded the Browns' home, cut off phone and Internet service and seized commercial property the couple owned in a neighboring town. SWAT teams, military and explosives vehicles marshaled in the tiny town and sparked rumors _ and expectations _ of a raid. Neighbors were rousted from their homes and planes flying overhead were ordered away.

    U.S. marshals said it was only for surveillance, but Brown said the less-than-covert show of force was intended to swarm the property.

    "He's lying through his teeth about several things," Brown said. "Did I think the raid was imminent? Yeah. I was notified that they were on their way."

    The authorities were seen by a Brown supporter who was walking a dog. When Danny Riley saw camouflaged scouts in the woods near the driveway, officers took him into custody in an unsuccessful effort to stem a panic.

    Since then, officials have cut phone service and electricity for the Browns. But cell phone service sometimes works, and the home has the potential to produce its own electricity through wind and solar sources.

    Brown has declared membership as a United States Constitution Ranger, claiming he has more law enforcement authority than local, state or federal police.

    "If they decide to make that move against me, go ahead," Brown said in past interviews. "Watch. It ain't going to be as easy as they think it's going to be. Believe me."

    U.S. marshals have said any hope for a bloody and scandalous confrontation in Plainfield will only end in disappointment. Federal agents have been living in the shadow of the disastrous 1993 standoff with a cult compound in Waco, Texas. After 51 days, the FBI shot tear gas into the Branch Davidian compound, accidentally starting a fire and killing 80 cult members.

    Marshals have refused to physically engage with Brown. They have daily telephone conversations, which sometimes include Brown's rants against the Illuminati, Freemasons and bogus federal laws. But marshals insist there are no plans to raid the home.

Kat Kanning