Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 17

[Lex]

I don't see any of you doing anything to get the tax laws changed, instead you go on a forum and complain about our Government.

In fairness Romak,  many of the people on this forum ARE doing those things.

I for one have no interest in changing the tax laws in any country.

Even if they change the law to make it rhyme or change it into a song? Would you still oppose it?

[Oldmanofthemountain]

Other than the confiscatory taxes, my family has not been physically harmed, if they ever are, I am ready.

Why wait?

I don't understand you Russell, we share a lot of the same principles, why try to antagonize and further divide us? I don't begrudge your means of non violent protest, I don't agree with unprovoked violence either, but I believe it is a wise man who is prepared for that eventuality, should it come. We need to keep as many people of "like " mind together, by dividing those you don't agree with 100% on everything, you only empower the feds.

[KBCraig]

I for one have no interest in changing the tax laws in any country.

Well on your behalf, I'll be working to eliminate the laws that let the Browns (and the Kannings) be threatened with prison over taxes.

[(V)]

Quote from: Russell Kanning on Yesterday at 09:22 PM
Quote from: Oldmanofthemountain on Yesterday at 09:21 PM
Other than the confiscatory taxes, my family has not been physically harmed, if they ever are, I am ready.
Why wait?

I don't understand you Russell, we share a lot of the same principles, why try to antagonize and further divide us? I don't begrudge your means of non violent protest, I don't agree with unprovoked violence either, but I believe it is a wise man who is prepared for that eventuality, should it come. We need to keep as many people of "like " mind together, by dividing those you don't agree with 100% on everything, you only empower the feds.

I think Russell is referring to the fact that most of the people that think the gun is the ultimate solution, don't do much but "prepare" for some future scenario when they can use the gun. The beauty of nonviolent resistance is that it is what can be done now.

[cigarlover]

btw, I am thinking of heading up to the Browns for July 4th. Have the Browns agreed to the gathering?

Kola

I did recieve a PM and without going into details, I will withdraw my offer for them. I will send cash to thier PO box and they can do what they like with it.

[Oldmanofthemountain]

Quote from: Russell Kanning on Yesterday at 09:22 PM
Quote from: Oldmanofthemountain on Yesterday at 09:21 PM
Other than the confiscatory taxes, my family has not been physically harmed, if they ever are, I am ready.
Why wait?

I don't understand you Russell, we share a lot of the same principles, why try to antagonize and further divide us? I don't begrudge your means of non violent protest, I don't agree with unprovoked violence either, but I believe it is a wise man who is prepared for that eventuality, should it come. We need to keep as many people of "like " mind together, by dividing those you don't agree with 100% on everything, you only empower the feds.

I think Russell is referring to the fact that most of the people that think the gun is the ultimate solution, don't do much but "prepare" for some future scenario when they can use the gun. The beauty of nonviolent resistance is that it is what can be done now.

Are we not all doing that by being here, and getting the word out?

[TackleTheWorld]

Dada Orwell reports on Porc 411 that Joseph Haas was arrested and released at a city council meeting.  Preliminary word is he was arrested for an email he wrote.

[Kat Kanning]

Did it have something to do with the Browns?

[Russell Kanning]

I for one have no interest in changing the tax laws in any country.

Well on your behalf, I'll be working to eliminate the laws that let the Browns (and the Kannings) be threatened with prison over taxes.

I don't think there are laws that authorize the IRS to put people in jail ... they just do it.

[Russell Kanning]

Other than the confiscatory taxes, my family has not been physically harmed, if they ever are, I am ready.

Why wait?

I don't understand you Russell, we share a lot of the same principles, why try to antagonize and further divide us?

I am just asking questions.
It seems good to work these things out in our minds.
I think it is also good for all of us to decide what we will do when the feds put the pressure on us.

[Russell Kanning]

Dada Orwell reports on Porc 411 that Joseph Haas was arrested and released at a city council meeting.  Preliminary word is he was arrested for an email he wrote.

man .... I know his emails are long ... but jail time?

[TackleTheWorld]

Dada Orwell reports on Porc 411 that Joseph Haas was arrested and released at a city council meeting.  Preliminary word is he was arrested for an email he wrote.

Did it have something to do with the Browns?

Good question. Maybe not.  Check here for Joe Haas arrest thread.

[Recumbent ReCycler]

If you're planning to BBQ or have a cookout at the Browns', I heard that their BBQ grill is inoperable, so someone may want to bring their own if they want to use one and are planning to go there.

[MaineShark]

I'm sure, if you consider the folks in the trenches just doing their jobs, thugs.

I seem to recall hearing that excuse used before.  I think it was some place called Nuremberg...

I'll bet if you sat down and had a cup of coffee with one of them, you might realize that you are not all that different.

Well, let's see, I've never initiated force against anyone, and I never would.  There's not any hypothetical situation, no matter how outlandish, in which I would ever claim that initiating force is justified.

They do it on a daily basis.

Yes, I think we are that different.

Joe

[TylerM]

Oh duh, I just had a lightbulb moment.  I was at Shaw's when that detective "detained" me.  He thought I was going to buy groceries for the Browns and take them up there.  (I'm slow to catch on.)

Or what about this?: SHAWS makes a donation to the cause of freedom: #____ bags of groceries delivered by company truck to the Brown "compound". And/or Free bottled water from Poland Springs, Maine.

Also: Michael's Arts & Crafts, with the following announcement of that there will be a craft workshop next Saturday for HOW TO MAKE: "Molotov Cocktails" http://mlcastle.net/raisethefist/molotov.html - - BTW do the Feds use gasoline or diesel tanks?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov_cocktail a/k/a The "TANK BUSTER"  http://trulyawful.blogspot.com/2007/03/toy-molotov-cocktail-you-know-for-kids.html

Maybe Santa Claus with his bag, can be at SHAWS too taking donations of both glass and plastic bottles for the cause.  Yeah!: Let's all recycle! 

Also to get some of the local restaurants to donate some grease for that 50-25-25 mixture with the gasoline-tar+grease.  I wonder what Exxon-Mobil or Shell would say to the fact that I let Ed siphon out some of their excellent gas.  Maybe I might get a NASCAR $25.00 racing card from Shell for some free advertising when it "hits the fan"? motor of the tank.

I like the idea.... I recommend aviation fuel (100 Low Lead) or Jet fuel for the cocktails though. You can also work out a nice incendiary fuel-air bomb with those fuels as well...

FYTI: Military grade tanks run on JP-8 jet fuel.

Thanks TylerM,

As soon as I get a reply to my e-mail letter to the http://www.flymanchester.com/ Manchester, N.H. Airport by way of their http://www.flymanchester.com/contact/ page I'll let you know.  Maybe they might donate to the cause too. 

Here's what I did write:  "Where can I buy some 100 octane airline or #__ octane jet fuel?  And how much does it cost per gallon?  I'd like to make some molotov cocktails for if/when the Federal goons go beserk over at Ed's place.  See http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9113.240  I'm serious!  Just like the 2nd Amendment to use guns against our own government when it starts to run amuk and we have to rresort to Article 10 action!  or am I limited to Sunoco 93?  Thank you, -- Joe".

^^ I think it may have been this e-mail... I blame myself, I was speaking tongue-in-cheek, didn't mean for someone to take it seriously.