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Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 17

Started by LordBaltimore, June 15, 2007, 08:04 PM NHFT

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MaineShark

Quote from: Russell Kanning on June 20, 2007, 08:55 PM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on June 20, 2007, 04:23 PM NHFTWell on your behalf, I'll be working to eliminate the laws that let the Browns (and the Kannings) be threatened with prison over taxes.
I don't think there are laws that authorize the IRS to put people in jail ... they just do it. :'(

Hey, if the arrest you, want me to write a "law" that says they have to let you go?  It'll be some words on paper, and I'll even get some folks on the forums to vote on it and say whether they think it's a good idea, so it will be every bit as legitimate as their laws! ;D

See y'all at PorcFest tomorrow :)

Joe

KBCraig

Quote from: Russell Kanning on June 20, 2007, 08:55 PM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on June 20, 2007, 04:23 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on June 20, 2007, 10:50 AM NHFT
I for one have no interest in changing the tax laws in any country.
Well on your behalf, I'll be working to eliminate the laws that let the Browns (and the Kannings) be threatened with prison over taxes.
I don't think there are laws that authorize the IRS to put people in jail ... they just do it. :'(

Their particular words on pieces of paper are found at 26 USC 7608(a) and (b).

Funny thing, though... IRS investigators have no statutory authority to carry firearms, but the IRS general counsel has declared that they don't need it. He says the authority to investigate and arrest automatically implies authority to carry guns.

Brock

Quote from: KBCraig on June 20, 2007, 09:51 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on June 20, 2007, 08:55 PM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on June 20, 2007, 04:23 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on June 20, 2007, 10:50 AM NHFT
I for one have no interest in changing the tax laws in any country.
Well on your behalf, I'll be working to eliminate the laws that let the Browns (and the Kannings) be threatened with prison over taxes.
I don't think there are laws that authorize the IRS to put people in jail ... they just do it. :'(

Their particular words on pieces of paper are found at 26 USC 7608(a) and (b).

Funny thing, though... IRS investigators have no statutory authority to carry firearms, but the IRS general counsel has declared that they don't need it. He says the authority to investigate and arrest automatically implies authority to carry guns.


Not entirely sarcastic here, but outside of buildings that the government has determined gun-free zones, why do they need authority?

JosephSHaas

Quote from: JosephSHaas on June 16, 2007, 10:05 AM NHFT
Quote from: Caleb on June 16, 2007, 07:23 AM NHFT
He told Carol Shea Porter's office that he had planned to go after the Brown's that day, but when he saw Riley, he changed his plans.

He told the press that he was merely observing while other thugs stole property at another location.

Which is it?  Either way he is a liar.

He initially denied that shots were fired at Riley.  Now, we are told that shots might have been fired.

Which is it?  Either way he is a liar....


I.) Thanks Caleb, plus do you have proof of this Shea-Porter re-statement of what Monier told or wrote to her? such as maybe in one of her "Press Release"s? or was this told by her to somebody, and if so who? when? and where?

Anyway, here's a re-type of what I did send to The IRS with copies to both Troops C + F of the N.H. State Police:

II.) (a) e-mail Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:30 PM To: isb at safety.state.nh.us CC: The Executive Council + Mayor, Assistant Mayor and Seven (7) City Councilors of Lebanon, N.H. Subject: F.O.I.A. Request for Raid Reports #1 + 2a+b in the Ed Brown case #____.

(b) the e-mail print-out on two pages sent "To: The United States Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service, Disclosure Office 1 MS 41150, 25 New Sudbury Street, Boston, MAss.achusetts 02203, Telephone 617:316-2401

RE: Raid Reports #1 + 2a of last Fall '06 and last Thursday for: Ed Brown, same location for both: Glen Rd.,, Lebanon, N.H. plus the Raid Report #2b for the residence in Plainfield, N.H.

Dear FOIA Officer __________________________________:

1. THANK YOU.  Thank you for your http://www.irs.gov/foia/article/0,,id=120681,00.html website for WHERE to write for to obtain a photocopy of the file(s) for New Hampshire being your Freedom of Information Act Office at this location.

2.  THE ED BROWN FILE.  My request is for the incident report(s) for both raids against IRS protestor Edward L. Brown, as indicated above where your agents got the Lebanon* Police to lie to Ed Brown that there was water leaking out of his wife Elaine Brown's dental office building, that the http://www.unionleader.com state-wide newspaper reported earlier this month that you, in concert with the COPs there, 'tricked' him into being captured.

--I'm specifically looking for, in particular, of WHO was in charge of this/these raid(s), as the Treasury Agent in-charge _______________ and by WHAT communication(s)/ HOW did he contact the U.S. Marshals in Maine, MAss.achusetts and New Hampshire (plus their names and addresses + phone #'s too) as like on the last Raid #2b of all these cruisers and vehicles, etc. seen and photographed plus as reported in the newspapers, also WHY there was no block of a check-and-balance by either: the U.S. Marshal in N.H. +/or N.H. State Police, and also the local COPs, because all of them were given a copy of my certificate from Bill Gardner's Office of Secretary of State that the Feds are in a non-filing status TO N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 as FROM Art. I, Sec. 8, Clause 17 of the United States Constitution.

3. STATE CORRUPTION.  A copy of this e-mail letter is likewise going to N.H. Troops C + F of the N.H. Division of State Police, under the N.H. Dept. of Safety, along with a copy of this certificate to put them on official notice, since someHOW their Col. Frederick Booth is lax on the job, as I did notify his isb about this by e-mail on Sat., Jan. 13th '07 as acknowledged, and that he should have been given a copy from his boss and my public servant, the governor himself, Gov. John H. Lynch, of Hopkinton, his Excellency in bullshit tactics alright, who I did personally deliver such certificate to him in hand, last month during a G&C Meeting as witnessed by them for the governor to assert his Art. 41+51 powers to enforce all legislative mandates as by the 'shall' word here against you Feds, but him a wimp to his RSA Ch. 92:2 oath of office and so a corruptor too, as be the Councilors who REFUSE to so advise either way: THEY are ALL in contempt of the Constitution, so I am rightly in CONTEMPT of them and will display same the next time I see them to DARE charge me with such, KNOWING that the maximum penalty IF found guilty of contempt (deserving or not) by WHO (this has NEVER happened in ALL of N.H.'s history, so says Ray Burton on there for 25+ years of a quarter century) has the power to sentence for up to ten (10) days by Articles 22+23, Pt. 2, N.H. Const. me with a credit of 90+ days! plus they be hypocrites in receiving all those federal funds, KNOWing that any BFA/ Business Finance Authority requests by Public Hearing will result in me AGAIN notifying them that any such granting of such would be OUT-OF-ORDER as a violation of procedural due process of law and in an orderly manner of first in/ first out as guaranteed by the Ninth Amendment! so cc: all the [page 1/ page 2] Executive Councilors to be alerted to my next appearance there to complain of these wrongs to be righted.

4. CITY CORRUPTION.  In the meantime, a copy of this likewise going to the Lebanon Mayor, his Assistant, and seven (7) Councilors to say: SHAME ON YOU! http://www.lebcity.com/City_Resources/general.htm Taxation and protection are supposed to be reciprocal by Art. 12, but when that protection is for from those extracting in the first place, and then being turn-coats, then that is THEFT, and you too will hear from me again in person at not at your next meeting on: Wed., July 18th, (where and when you can talk this over to correct your mis-deeds) but if not so corrected then at the Wed., Aug. 1st +/or 15th meeting(s) @ 7:00 p.m.+ to PLEASE return the tax money paid for services promised but never delivered, in fact even MORE money as damages for such betrayal of your RSA Chh. 92:2 oaths of office.  Your pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States and to the Art. IV, Sec. 4 U.S. Constitutional 'Republic' but do not practice what you pledge.  A Republic is a nation of laws, as in the law of the land, written down as pre-scribed, as opposed to the arbitrary wishful thinking of others of what might be but isn't.  You all live in a dream land of lies, the father of which is the devil himself: devil worshipers you must be, and O.K. by your Article 5 rights, but when you become a public servant, you owe fidelity to the truth.  Either you do your job, or get out of the way.  WISE UP OR DIE.  If the latter be your choice, then BE GONE with you NOW!  You have turned the Isaiah 1:21 'faithful city' (in your 78+ years Rep. Terri Duddley) into a land of the harlot: the vague and the vagabond, you KNOWing that there be NONE of these RSA 123:1 papers on file, but treat it as a mis-understanding or mistake of no harm while it's being corrected you presume.  No harm!? in the meantime!?  you have got to be shitting me!

5.  NO COST.  This is a private request, but to share with others by posting to such places like http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=3868.3345 and so would appreciate it if you'd please process this request in accordance with 5 USC 552(a)(4)(A)(iii) 'without any charge'.

Yours truly, - - - - - - - - - -  Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059 (cell phone).

cc: The N.H. State Police
(1) Troop C [for Plainfield in Sullivan County], 15 Ash Brook Court, Keene, N.H. 03431, 603: 358-3333; + (2) Troop F [for Lebanon in Grafton County], 549 Route 302, Twin Mountain, N.H. 03595, mailing address: P.O. Box 440, Twin Mountain, N.H. 03595, 603: 846-3333." http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/contactus.html

Yours truly, - - Joe Haas

This is the infamous e-mail.  If you notice in paragraph #4 for CITY CORRUPTION, I gave the choice of: WISE UP OR DIE.  Former State Legislator of the House Judiciary, Terri Dudley chose the latter, and now blames me for giving her this choice of like what Monty Hall used to say on his TV game show of the 1960s: "Let's Make a Deal", do you want Door #1, or Door #2?  She chose Door #2 and the rest is history in the making for defense on the Article 22 right here in New Hampshire whereby free speech is supposed to be "inviolably preserved", defined at page 375 of my The AMERICAN HERITAGE DICTIONARY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE (c)1973 as: "Safe from violation" as in what? safe only from an RSA Ch. 651:2 violation, but not a misdemeanor!? http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXII/651/651-2.htm See also RSA Ch. 631:4 for the charge here of Class B Misdemeanor Criminal Threatening, section I.(d) for the maximum fine only-conviction of: up to $1,200.  http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXII/631/631-4.htm Their ulterior motive being to muzzle me from speaking in contempt at the next G&C Meeting, to clam up or be forced to pay $1,200 immediately.  The Arraignment day is Tue., July 31st @ 8:15 a.m. in Lebanon District Court to plead NOT GUILTY and proceed with a trial to win this free speech for everyone NOT to be pounced upon whenever one of our public servants doesn't like what we say, and thinks up something for the Thought Police of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four to prosecute.

They arrested me as I got out of Bernie's car and started walking toward the front door of the Plainfield Town Hall, as I was set to speak at the 7:30 p.m. previously appointed time on this RSA 123:1 subject, Bernie giving them the copy of the certification from Bill Gardner on officially sealed stationery of the Secretary of State that the Feds are in the non-filing mode.  http://www.state.nh.us The arrest and presentation on video tape, Bernie telling them (in no uncertain terms as they say) that when Ed & Elaine paid their taxes for Art. 12 protection, WHERE will they be to protect them from the outlaw Feds!? the next time. If they provide no protection then they ought to return the taxes paid as theft for services never rendered. To finally now, maybe get some newsprint in the media of this RSA 123:1 chapter of the Ed Brown case.  The Valley News there to be the first ones to report on this story. Check out http://www.vnews.com

Yours truly, Joe Haas




CNHT


FTL_Ian

Quote from: Romak on June 20, 2007, 06:59 AM NHFT
When in fact we are the Government, so in actuality you are complaining about yourselves and how you haven't done anything to get things changed.

I don't know about you, but most of us in this forum are definitely not the government.

KBCraig

Quote from: Dreepa on June 21, 2007, 08:02 AM NHFT
Article in today's CM regarding the amount of money that the IRS is looking for:
http://concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070621/REPOSITORY/706210340

So, they seized a building that is worth more ($833k) than the original tax bill ($625k). And now they're saying the total tax bill ($3 million) is more than Elaine even earned during that period ($1.9 million)!  :o

That's an effective tax rate of 157%... pay the gummint everything you made, plus another 57%!

LordBaltimore

Quote from: KBCraig on June 20, 2007, 09:51 PM NHFT
Funny thing, though... IRS investigators have no statutory authority to carry firearms, but the IRS general counsel has declared that they don't need it. He says the authority to investigate and arrest automatically implies authority to carry guns.

Do they have statutory authority to wear socks and wrist watches?

JosephSHaas

Quote from: CNHT on June 21, 2007, 09:39 AM NHFT
Joe Haas arrested for email:

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=6690563&nav=4QcS

Thanks CHNT.  I notice here that they use the word "sent" as in my pressing the button to SEND what I did write up, this connection as an element in the offense charged, because if a person just reads such, like on an electronic bulletin board, the real victim of any aggression by the government re-actions, the writer can always use this blocking tactic in that they might admit that they wrote it but WHO made the delivery and how?  An e-mail showed up in her inbox, but who SENT it? Not that this defense will be used by me, but just as they say: "A word to the wise"* for others who might be hesitant to this retaliation for free speech to keep this in the back of their minds for any future shenanigans.

*For this phrase: "A word to the wise" see http://www.bartelby.com/59/3/wordtothewis.html in that: "Intelligent people can take hints; they don't need to have everything explained to them at great length. The phrase 'a word to the wise' frequently accompanies a WARNING of some sort." (emphasis ADDed for this word warn @ page 781 of my The "American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language" (c)1973 of: "To make aware of POTENTIAL danger; caution." And to compare to the word: threat @ p. 720 is indeed defined as "One regarded as a POSSIBLE danger" (emphasis ADDed again), because the word possible @ p. 551 is defined as Potential, so equal in meaning, but what TYPE of "threat" is it?  Is it a CRIMINAL threat?

See the key word "commit" in that a threat is NOT criminal unless the person "threatens to commit ANY crime".  Is the fact of dieing a crime?  If so then God Almighty is guilty by giving Adam the apple in the Garden of Eden. Of course He is not guilty!  So what does "commit" mean? @ page 145: "To do, perform, or perpetrate: commit a murder".  The word perform @ p. 527 means "to carry out", and perpetrate @ page 528 is from the Latin word perpetrare, "to accomplish", and that word @ p. 5 defined as "To succeed in doing; bring to pass." From the Latin word: accomplir, to complete.

That word: "any" crime, the Police have pegged to "murder", and so to see http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-LXII-630.htm for the sections on: Capital, First Degree, Second Degree, etc. with your attention to http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXII/630/630-1-a.htm for RSA Ch. 630:1-a,I(4) for the purpose word "shall mean that the actor's conscious OBJECT is the death of another".  (emphasis ADDed).  The word "object" @ page 491 defined as: "Anything serving as a FOCUS of attention or action" (emphasis ADDed again, because the focus, page 277 is on the "or" word, as "A point to which something converges or from which it diverges" and for the latter, of to diverge, page 210 "To tend in different directions from a common point.")  So to the left of the word "or" is to "Wise up", and to the right is the word: "die".  Thus since the purpose is on the object-ive, page 491 or "Serving as a goal of a course of action" didn't I leave that course of action up to her? "Either you do your job, or get out of the way. WISE UP OR DIE.  If the latter be your choice, then BE GONE with you NOW!"

Although this is a fine-only case of up to $1,200 plus that 20% penalty assessment (with either 65% or 75% thereof to teach the cadets at the Police Academy in Concord at The PS&T: Polce Standards & Training, on how to write up these AUC 103A-045 7/00 COMPLAINT forms, see RSA Ch. 188-F:31 at http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/xv/188-f/188-f-mrg.htm with either 20% or 25% thereof that 20% to the victims, on June 30, 2009 the General Fund getting a cut too?) I think I might hire a lawyer to draft some "Motion to Dismiss" that everybody else can rely on this case-law for not if/ but "when" I win this case, just needing the lawyer to put all of this shutgun approach into the legal rifle barrel to fire the numbered paragraphs on #___ pages so that whoever the judge is can have an easy decision to make.

Yours truly, Joe Haas

LordBaltimore

Quote from: KBCraig on June 21, 2007, 10:49 AM NHFT
Quote from: Dreepa on June 21, 2007, 08:02 AM NHFT
Article in today's CM regarding the amount of money that the IRS is looking for:
http://concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070621/REPOSITORY/706210340

So, they seized a building that is worth more ($833k) than the original tax bill ($625k). And now they're saying the total tax bill ($3 million) is more than Elaine even earned during that period ($1.9 million)!  :o

That's an effective tax rate of 157%... pay the gummint everything you made, plus another 57%!


Elaine hadn't paid in 14 years.  That's a whole lot of compound interest.

CNHT

Quote from: JosephSHaas on June 21, 2007, 11:26 AM NHFT
Quote from: CNHT on June 21, 2007, 09:39 AM NHFT
Joe Haas arrested for email:

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=6690563&nav=4QcS

Thanks CHNT.  I notice here that they use the word "sent" as in my pressing the button to SEND what I did write up, this connection as an element in the offense charged, because if a person just reads such, like on an electronic bulletin board, the real victim of any aggression by the government re-actions, the writer can always use this blocking tactic in that they might admit that they wrote it but WHO made the delivery and how?  An e-mail showed up in her inbox, but who SENT it? Not that this defense will be used by me, but just as they say: "A word to the wise"* for others who might be hesitant to this retaliation for free speech to keep this in the back of their minds for any future shenanigans.

So you're not actually in jail? What happened?

E-ville

Quote from: richardr on June 21, 2007, 11:34 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on June 21, 2007, 10:49 AM NHFT
Quote from: Dreepa on June 21, 2007, 08:02 AM NHFT
Article in today's CM regarding the amount of money that the IRS is looking for:
http://concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070621/REPOSITORY/706210340

So, they seized a building that is worth more ($833k) than the original tax bill ($625k). And now they're saying the total tax bill ($3 million) is more than Elaine even earned during that period ($1.9 million)!  :o

That's an effective tax rate of 157%... pay the gummint everything you made, plus another 57%!


Elaine hadn't paid in 14 years.  That's a whole lot of compound interest.

How can the government charge penelties and interest with no contract, even if there is a tax ammendment in the constitution that did make partial slavery legal, it says nothing about interest and penelties?