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Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 22

Started by (V), September 15, 2007, 01:32 AM NHFT

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TackleTheWorld

Quote from: kola on September 25, 2007, 09:35 PM NHFT
Once upon a time in the land of Freedomville:
:)  Kola

LOL. Thanks for the most thought-out strategy I've heard to achieve a happy ending, Kola. 

JosephSHaas

Quote from: kola on September 25, 2007, 09:35 PM NHFT
Once upon a time in the land of Freedomville: ...

But..It worked! They were invited in. They starting mingling with the partygoers but it wasn't long before someone spotted that huge overgrown tumorlike ass of Sherriff Moanyay. King Weenie was busted as well. The Happy Free Friends and the Grumpy Grumps (no longer grumpy) and the Blue La GOONs surrounded the two evil-doers.  They knocked both of them over the head with beer bottles and Ripple wine bottles into unconsciousness(*). From there they were mounted on spits, plugged apples into their mouths and prepared them for barbeque. And it was done....

:)  Kola

Yes, unconsciousness(*) is right. Crazypace is wrong, when he wrote that "its important to make sure the pig is dead before roasting" http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/37043.php

as corrected by Bison who wrote: "No, that's a myth. Always begin roasting the pig while it's alive.  You don't want any bruising on the meat from a hard impact, and you don't want the meat to dry out from any cuts. Plus as it struggles to free itself it tenderizes the meat..."

JSH

KBCraig

The judge and prosecutor are ratcheting up the rhetoric.

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Judge+jumps+on+Brown+supporter&articleId=ade022c2-95a6-4961-bad0-d572348ae307

Judge jumps on Brown supporter

By KATHRYN MARCHOCKI
New Hampshire Union Leader Staff

Concord – A federal judge yesterday rebuked a 22-year-old New York man charged with helping arm convicted tax evaders Edward and Elaine Brown with military-style and armor-piercing weapons for their planned confrontation with law enforcers.

"This is a particularly heinous thing to bring a .50-caliber weapon up to the Browns' residence and leave it there. Outrageous!" U.S. District Court Judge James R. Muirhead said, noting the weapon's lethal capacity.

Muirhead ordered Jason Gerhard held without bail pending trial - a blow to the defense's claim that Gerhard was simply a college student "trying to express himself" who visited the Browns's Plainfield home to interview them for articles he later published in his college newspaper.

A lanky man in jeans and T-shirt with close-cut dark hair who recently enlisted in the Army, Gerhard allegedly used his New York identification to buy six firearms from western New Hampshire gun dealers between January and July 31. They included a Serbu .50 caliber rifle, the military-style Bushmaster Carbon 15, a Russian M44 and other weapons, Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert M. Kinsella said.

"These .50 caliber rifles are designed and intended to pierce tanks, airplanes and bullet-proof vests," Kinsella told the judge in arguing Gerhard be detained without bail.

"All these weapons can be used by the Browns, and certainly can be used by anyone standing in that lookout tower at the Browns' residence," Kinsella said, referring to a tower situated on the roof line of the couple's fortress-like home.

Gerhard is one of four supporters of the Browns arrested Sept. 12. The judge entered innocent pleas on Gerhard's behalf to all nine counts - including six weapons charges - at his arraignment Sept. 20.

The Browns were found guilty in January of conspiracy and federal tax crimes and each sentenced to 63 months in federal prison in April. The couple refuse to surrender, claiming there is no law that requires them to pay federal income taxes. They have said they will die defending themselves and their home.

With Gerhard's mother, a third-grade Long Island schoolteacher, seated in the spectator's benches behind him, Gerhard's attorney portrayed his client's actions as those of a young man curious about free speech issues who tended to write "philosophical discourses" sympathetic to the Browns in his college newspaper.

Gerhard has no prior criminal record and has a twin brother completing his second tour of duty in Iraq where he served as a gunner on a Black Hawk helicopter, court-appointed attorney Stanley W. Norkunas said.

Gerhard, who began his freshman year at Suffolk Community College in Long Island last fall, became intrigued with the Browns' cause after learning about them over the Internet, Norkunas said. He traveled to their home several times to interview them, then published four to five articles in Compass, the college newspaper.

"He did believe in their cause," Norkunas added.

Gerhard said he was armed when he made his first trip to meet the Browns in January. Within minutes of meeting Ed Brown, Gerhard wrote "I realized Mr. Brown was not crazy at all."

"All Mr. Brown wants is a fair trial, but nowadays that is a hard thing to come by. Unless we come together to retake the country we have lost piece by piece to the elite businessman and corrupt politicians, the end may be nearer than we are willing to admit," Gerhard, who is listed as the Compass news editor, wrote in a March 7 edition.

After Gerhard's arrest at an Army boot camp in Missouri on Sept. 12, police seized a pipe bomb loaded with explosives but no fuse in his Long Island bedroom along with a rifle propped up beside his bed.

Judge Muirhead, noting that the Browns have built their case on a "totally baseless view of taxation," ruled Gerhard poses a danger to the community given he allegedly supplied the Browns, both convicted felons, with weapons which could kill both law enforcement officers and citizens.

Kat Kanning

Gee, if they left the Browns alone, they wouldn't have to worry about what kind of guns they have in there.

Lloyd Danforth

He probably figured that the Brown's was the safest place in NH to store his gun.

Romak

Yet another example of Ed Brown using other people for his own personal gain. And now this young man is facing the rest of his life behind bars. If Mr Brown truly cared about these people who were laying their lives on the line for him he would've told him the deal is if you do this you have to stay here with us. I will not allow you to leave my home because I dint want to be responsible for what will happen to you if you're out there on your own. If you're not willing to live here until the end I cant accept any weapons, etc that you bring into my home. He used these people plain and simple. Its typical considering his past. He doesn't care one iota about these four men and the charges their facing. He got what he wanted. You all seem to forget one thing. The Marshalls, Govt, etc didn't pick this fight with Ed Brown. If they arbitrarily decided to go after him for no reason he would have a lot more of the right people helping him out. Hes been talking big for over a decade and no one has bothered him at all. He decided to do what he did and now hes bringing these four men down with him. Its too bad for them, but he could care less. Also keep in mind if he does kill any agents with the weapons these men bought for him they will be tried convicted and executed. Doesn't sound like as much fun as hes made it out to be now does it. People need to think ahead before they do things. This isn't a just cause never has been. Richardr and I have been trying to show you all the light for months now, its apparently impossible to get through to most of you with common sense. I'll continue following this story because of its potential consequences for our great state, but I'm through trying to get through to most of you. If you're dumb enough to help this man you get exactly what you deserve. 

Russell Kanning


dalebert

Quote from: Romak on September 26, 2007, 07:19 AM NHFT
Richardr and I have been trying to show you all the light for months now, its apparently impossible to get through to most of you with common sense. I'll continue following this story because of its potential consequences for our great state, but I'm through trying to get through to most of you *. If you're dumb enough to help this man you get exactly what you deserve. 

* Are you just teasing us?

JosephSHaas

Quote from: Romak on September 26, 2007, 07:19 AM NHFT
Yet another example of Ed Brown using other people for his own personal gain. And now this young man is facing the rest of his life behind bars. If Mr Brown truly cared about these people who were laying their lives on the line for him he would've told him the deal is if you do this you have to stay here with us. I will not allow you to leave my home because I dint want to be responsible for what will happen to you if you're out there on your own. If you're not willing to live here until the end I cant accept any weapons, etc that you bring into my home...

...He decided to do what he did and now hes bringing these four men down with him. Its too bad for them, but he could care less...(**)

...People need to think ahead before they do things. This isn't a just cause (*) never has been... If you're dumb enough to help this man you get exactly what you deserve. 

Thank you Romak.  Somewhere along the line, people started to think that Ed was not fortified with enough weapons, when he told me just the opposite, that he had enough of them. But WHEN did he tell me this? He told me this at the very beginning, on that bright sunny Sunday back in January.  I do remember that "call for arms", but wasn't that the hype of some radio show promoter?  Richard, you're good at digging for the truth, I know it's in here somewhere, could you find it for us please.  When I visited Ed & Elaine that Sunday I was surprised to see no Indian Shutters, and thought of buying some gas masks for him. One visitor gave me his phone # as a contact, when we talked on the phone later about this, getting some company name to contact, but for whatever reason the deal was never made. I think I was to supply some money for him to buy them maybe. Anyway nothing happened, and if the Marshals and U.S. Attorney thought this was aiding and abetting a fugitive from preventing his capture, I looked at it as more self-defense rights of his asserting the Art. 10 Right to revolt, so in effect wanting some seal-of-approval from the governor first, like marking on each mask, the key numbers 1-8-17*, 123:1** and Art.10, (and 627:8 see below) *** THEN if and when they capture Ed for another trial these defensive weapons, whether they be the gas masks or the guns, when shown to the jury, they'll be asking what these numbers stand for, and will be told that this IS more than "a legitimate cause"(*) by N.H. RSA Ch. 123 to a lawful cause by both (1) Art. I, Sec. 8, Clause 17 U.S. Const. at the federal level, and (2) Article 10 at the state level, because Ed is NOT a reactionary, BUT a Revolutionary, NOR is he a militant, under the militate word defined as using force as evidence, when the evidence is plain and simple: that the Feds are in a non-filing mode to the law* and statute** respectfully, THE evidence being in the certificate of federal non-filing by Bill Gardner's certification of such from his N.H. Office of Secretary of State.

I write this suggestion after first-hand experience of TRYing to get RSA Ch. 627:8 into evidence in my stun gun case, of the right to use force against any UNLAWFUL taking of your property, and/or to re-take your property, See: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXII/627/627-8.htm So for Ed to inscribe these numbers too on any and all weapons there is my latest suggestion. BTW I lost the prevention stun-gun case, but won the re-taking case in Grafton County Superior Court of re-taking my political poster, so the moral of the story is like to let the thief take whatever, then charge him sevenfold later by Public Law 97-280, 96 Statute 1211 of Oct. 4, 1982 = the Year of the Bible for 1983 & Beyond, to Proverbs 6:30-31. Either way both defenses are there, the Supremes exempting COPs by that other statute, and applying it retrospectfully back to BEFORE my case, that is against the law of Art. 23. Their "opinion" just that, for anybody in the future, like Ed, to also use Art. 10 that over-rides both statutes.

(*) Thank you too Margot for your http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070926/NEWS01/709260398 quoting what I too did hear Muirhead say from the bench yesterday, but did not write that into his written order? instead changing the words from "is not a legitimate cause"(*) to "baseless nonsensical views"? I like the verbal saying better, and that the defense ought to hold onto and tackle this in their court trials if not released before then on Habeas Corpus Petitions, or in other words: some county judge seeing the TRUTH over these federal liars, and releasing the real victims!

The quote from the CONCORD MONITOR is: "It does appear a shame that this man has been misled by the Browns, whose cause is not a legitimate cause,'(*)  he said.  In his written order, published later in the day, he described the Browns' legal perspective as 'baseless nonsensical views'." This is almost what Warren Rudman told me on the telephone when I did invite him to defend his namesake building back in April at the Sentencing Hearing , him saying that when I said this N.H. Statute 123:1 requirement applies to the Feds, him calling that asserting: "ludicrous"! defined as "Laughable because of obvious absurdity or incongruity" *****from the Latin word ludicrus, done playfully; but former N.H. A.G. turned Federal Senator Rudman, this is not a joke, as playful defined as humorous, jesting, full of fun, but most importantly sportive: see Proverbs 26:18-19 "As a mad man who casteth firebrands, arrows, and death, So is the man that deceiveth his neighbor, and saith, Am not I in sport?" short for disporten, des + porter (to carry). See also the Escutcheon word for "A shield or shield-shaped emblem bearing a coat of arms" that is sometimes placed around the keyhole of a door, to ward off evil spirits, evil, as in Proverbs 26:24 "He that hateth dissembleth (defined as "1. To disguise the real nature of. 2. To simulate****; feign.") with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him; :25 "When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart." As in the seven evil spirits that go with the one evicted or exorcised, as I did write in Reply #__ above, Monier TALKing a show of no force, but don't believe him, he is the figurehead of some really bad bunch of cut-throats! My charge of RSA Ch. 638:14 "Unlawful Simulation**** of Legal Process" to the Concord Police Dept. on Thu., June 28th '07 still being investigated as against McAuliffee for issuing that original bench warrant against Ed withOUT the lawful and legal power to do so. Plus that incongruity***** word defined as from incongruous as "1. Inappropriate; out of place. 2. Not harmonious; incompatible. 3. Inconsistent; illogical." So when Rudman calls my argument such, I say that the Federal actions are incompatible with the law and statute! and if it takes a jury of one's peers to shove the truth back at them, then so be it!

To get a copy of that Order, and re-type it here in its entirety later, or will either The CONCORD MONITOR, or http://www.unionleader.com do that for tomorrow's newspaper?

J.S.H.

(**) P.S. Romac, I too used to use that expression, but later learned that the correct phrase is: could "not" care less.


Dan

Quote"These .50 caliber rifles are designed and intended to pierce tanks, airplanes and bullet-proof vests,"

So what?  Are we supposed to pretend we feel armed with only Nerf Whiffle bats?

scoop

Quote from: JosephSHaas on September 26, 2007, 10:43 AM NHFT
To get a copy of that Order, and re-type it here in its entirety later, or will either The CONCORD MONITOR, or http://www.unionleader.com do that for tomorrow's newspaper?

I have a copy of the order as a PDF. I'm not tech savvy enough to know how to post it here, but if someone knows how to put it up, I can email it along.

Kat Kanning

You can send it to me, scoop.  Or to post an attachment here, from the post form, select 'more options' at the bottom and you should see a way to attach the pdf to your post.

J’raxis 270145

Quote from: Dan on September 26, 2007, 10:45 AM NHFT
Quote"These .50 caliber rifles are designed and intended to pierce tanks, airplanes and bullet-proof vests,"

So what?  Are we supposed to pretend we feel armed with only Nerf Whiffle bats?

If you're asking the U.S. Attorney—yes.

JosephSHaas

Quote from: Bill Riley on September 25, 2007, 05:04 PM NHFT
Hello Everyone,

I wanted to put some facts out to forum to consider when reading stories from the Concord Monitor, one of the leading newspapers that have been somewhat hostile and disingenuous to the Tax Honesty movement.  The CM's coverage of the Ed and Elaine Brown story frequently tends to spin the THM as fringe, radical, anti-government kooks etc. etc.

The Concord Monitor's Parent Company is:
Newspapers of New England, Inc. George Wilson is President and CEO
Mr. Wilson also sits, or has sat, on the Board of the Washington Post:
http://www.washpostco.com/history-directors.htm

One of the leading members on the board of the Washington Post is:
Lee C. Bollinger (Columbia University President who recently made news with the Ahmadinejad visit to Columbia University)
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=62487&p=IROL-govHistBioDirectors&t=Regular&id=165099&

Mr. Bollinger also serves on the Board of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/org_nydirectors.html
http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/orgchart/board/Bollinger.html

So please consider the news source and some of the inherent conflicts of interest that exist when you have a nexus between the News Media and the Central Banking system and their vested interest in keeping the income tax system alive.

regards,
Bill Riley

(PS  I'm not the father of Danny Riley as recently reported in the CM)


Thanks for the information Bill, (brother to Danny)  I've incorporated it into my comment to today's http://www.unionleader.com story by Kastheryn Marchocki, Reporter, who gave me her card yesterday after court, 603-668-4321, Ext. 316; 800-562-8218, Fax: 603-668-0382 kmarchocki at unionleader dot com if you'd like to write to her for maybe a story about Danny's view on the Fed too, the Federal Reserve System, that is, as I've noticed in one of the websites for Bob Wolffe, his mention of this Fed corruption, and Jason yesterday indirectly by referring to Aaron Russou's film wherein he mentions this fiat paper money.

Here's a re-type of my comment that "might" be printed later, as they seem to only publish about 1/2 of my entries:

"Why is it that neither this newspaper nor that of the CONCORD MONITOR, [owned by Newspapers of New England, Inc.] reported that Jason Gerhard refused to acknowledge jurisdiction both in Missouri: the 'Show Me State' and here, as mentioned by his attorney in court yesterday.  And more importantly, WHEN and WHERE is this jurisdictional issue going to be decided?  In a Petition for an Habeas Corpus in a county court? as a check-and-balance against the Feds? - - - - The Chairman of the Board of NE Newspapers is George Wilson, who also sits on the Board of the WASHINGTON POST, one of whose leading board members is Lee C. Bollinger, Columbia University President, who also sits on the Board of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, an outfit that supposedly supplies the U.S. Mint with the Section 16 of the Federal Reserve Act gold to back up our currency for Title 12 U.S. Code 411 redemption, but the Feds refusing my FOIA* like an audit of how much gold is really delivered.  The film-maker Aaron Russou saying in his 'Freedom to Fascism' movie, that the Federal Reserve Notes, that are promises to pay something are, in effect, 'fiat' paper money, as by the LEGAL TENDER CASE of Jilliard v. Greenman, 110 US 421-470 (1883), @ 448 makes 'currency lawful money for all purposes as regards the national or private individuals' but NOT the state! [Art. I, Sec. 10, by Roger Sherman] but what about Sec. 20 of the Coinage Act of 1792 where all gov't offices AND the courts shall or must keep their accounts in such quality of coined money!?  Time for an audit of the courts: both federal AND state! to use as evidence to evict any criminal charges as beyond the unclean-hands doctrine, to that of utter corruption IN the courts!"

J.S.H.

* FOIA = The Freedom of Information Act.

See my Reply #_____ above, in that the Crane Paper Co. of Dalton, MAss. prints this quality paper for the Bureau of Engraving & Printing, who prints up the Federal Reserve Notes for that PRIVATE Bank (just check the yellow pages in the telephone book for them under government in Boston for Region 1A - they're NOT there, is what Barbara Anderson of Epsom, N.H. told me about years ago, back in the 1980s when she and her husband Frank would have monthly meetings on the Constitution).  In the COIN WORLD magazine {of March 5, 2007 @ page 18 [Vol. 48, Issue 2447] (937) 498-0800, Beth Deisher, Editor}, is a very interesting article.  http://www.coinworld.com wherein a truckload of these notes was robbed in transit between the Bureau and that Fed Bank, but no charges of stealing paper money, but mere personal property of the bank, as the notes had NOT yet been monitized.  The monitization occurs when that Bank ships them out to their member banks, at which time #__ amount of gold is extracted out of their account set up with the U.S. Mint.  And so when we demand the state to pay off in the gold "and" silver coin, supposed to be there behind the notes, the state mis-uses this LEGAL TENDER case!  Reference: Haas v. Boscawen + CITIZENS BANK in Merrimack County Case #07-C-147 to appeal. Just ask former State Rep. Dick Marple of Hooksett who has been waiting for his $100 per year Art. 15 just "compensation" for #__ years now having to educate the new State Treasurer, getting a copy of this too.  The former one, Michael Ablowich, merely making a call to the U.S. Mint saying that Marple can "buy" the like $50.00 silver dollars for what? x __ = FRN___  each? Technically the Mint is buying commercial paper. And WHY transact business like this when an at-par exchange is available by 12 USC 411?  Who takes the fall? Nobody.  The gold is there, but the public-at-large is too stupid, or stupified by the corruptors in both the Fed and the Mint, and too afraid to do anything about it when they/ the holders of the gold by contract with us say to get lost! They are the thieves and to return sevenfold the amount stolen! I congratulate these Ed Brown victims for getting to the root of the problem of the money supply in this country. They will "sooner or later" turn from victims to victors!