Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 23

[LordBaltimore]

I'm pretty sure that Constitution Ranger Bill Miller, who has been friends with Ed Brown for years, isn't government sponsored anything. 

His description of his fights with Ed are interesting and Ed's plan to make sure Elaine became a martyr (like Randy Weaver's wife) while Ed lived on matches what Reno posted months ago on his MySpace blog.

[Sheep Fuzzy Wool]

People who understand a truth to an issue are likey to be all sorts of different kinds of people.
Some may be men who wear dresses. That does not mean that the issue is any less true.
A common controling tactic, "If you believe this way," ie; "you must be a man who wears a dress too."
If one is homophobic, this may frighten one and they will never speak out on this truth again.

I'm pretty sure that Constitution Ranger Bill Miller, who has been friends with Ed Brown for years, isn't government sponsored anything. 

His description of his fights with Ed are interesting and Ed's plan to make sure Elaine became a martyr (like Randy Weaver's wife) while Ed lived on matches what Reno posted months ago on his MySpace blog.

If a person believes there is reason to distract attention from the truth, they will begin discrediting the messengers, picking apart their lives.  That way, the sheep will be corraled into chasing something else and they may forget the core truth of the issue, which affects all the sheep regardless of their sexual orientation.

[LordBaltimore]

The core truth here is that Ed is a mentally ill man who is so obsessed with violent conflict and triggering a violent revolution that he was willing to murder Elaine to further his cause.  What's really sad is that Elaine apparently agreed to this sick plan.  I really feel sorry for her.

[coffeeseven]

People who understand a truth to an issue are likey to be all sorts of different kinds of people.
Some may be men who wear dresses. That does not mean that the issue is any less true.
A common controling tactic, "If you believe this way," ie; "you must be a man who wears a dress too."
If one is homophobic, this may frighten one and they will never speak out on this truth again.

I'm pretty sure that Constitution Ranger Bill Miller, who has been friends with Ed Brown for years, isn't government sponsored anything. 

His description of his fights with Ed are interesting and Ed's plan to make sure Elaine became a martyr (like Randy Weaver's wife) while Ed lived on matches what Reno posted months ago on his MySpace blog.

If a person believes there is reason to distract attention from the truth, they will begin discrediting the messengers, picking apart their lives.  That way, the sheep will be corraled into chasing something else and they may forget the core truth of the issue, which affects all the sheep regardless of their sexual orientation.

sfw you have clarity of thought. Nice to see.

[Sheep Fuzzy Wool]

The core truth here is that Ed is a mentally ill man who is so obsessed with violent conflict and triggering a violent revolution that he was willing to murder Elaine to further his cause.  What's really sad is that Elaine apparently agreed to this sick plan.  I really feel sorry for her.

That's right.   
The core truth has nothing to do with taxes. 
The sheep dog barks!

[LordBaltimore]

The core truth has nothing to do with taxes. 

The point Ed has been trying to make since day one.

[JosephSHaas]

Essex County Jail, Middleton, MAss.

1-978-750-1900 open for visits today*

I-93 south to 128 North

to Route 62 exit ramp, at light turn left** for 1 mile

past Agricultural School, go up incline, turn right

go up hill, 1st left, parking on the right.

* Fri., Oct. 12th Units 240-C/ 240 D 2:00- 2:30 p.m.

240-C for Jason; + 240-D for Reno

I'll be visiting Jason, ________ can visit Reno?

We can talk afterwards? ________________

Correction:  ( and additional details)

1. From New Hampshire the exit off of I-93 onto Rte. 128 (Rte. 95) North is Exit 37A

2. The exit off of 128/Rte.95 N that reads: Middleton is Exit #22W (I should have taken the one to the west of that?), and "at light turn" RIGHT (not left**!) on Rte. 62W for not "1 mile", but four (4) miles right past the MAss. State Police Troop #____ car maintenance building on the right/north to see the facility way up on the hill about a quarter to a half mile further down the road.

Visit with Jason:  I got there and past the metal detector to sign in one minute before the deadline at 1:59 p.m., plus you have to fill out a form with your NAZ tel. #, DOB, car: make/model/year + license plate #; a couple were behind me as last and we were let in "late" the man said by about 5 minutes AFTER the "form" had to be processed, and actually stayed for almost 45 minutes to 2:45 p.m.

As the older man jail guard escorted us to the back door of that building (with you able to carry your picture license and keys with you), we went outside between the buildings, and into the other building, and then a walkway to where there's a big rectangular window area with chairs and phones on the wall.  I saw Jason on the other side, so I walked around and we had a nice chat. The bottom line being that he has some pre-trial conference scheduled for Wed., Oct. 24 @ __:__ am/pm (time unknown to him too) and he was wondering how filing a Petition for a Writ of Habeas Corpus with the Essex County Superior Court*** in Salem would affect that. I told him it was like getting two bites of the apple.  In fact, the MAss. judge might check-and-balance him out of there BEFORE even the pre-trial! I told him what Danny was doing, and so either a win here or there, the others could follow on their coat-tails, because "The Four Freedom Keepers" are all in double-filing states to come down on the Feds "very" hard! Ed & Elaine in single-filing states of Ohio + Conn. resp. but at the federal level, to tell the N.H. Feds to wise up!

Yours truly, - - Joe

P.S. Jason's and Reno's next visiting days and times are: (1) Tue., Oct. 16 @ 2-2:30 + 7-7:30; (2) Sat., Oct. 20 @ 2-2:30; (3) Wed., Oct. 24th @ 2-2:30 + 7-7:30; + (4) Sun., Oct. 28th @ 2-2:30 p.m. (for Units 240C + 240-D respectfully). noting that it repeats every four (4) days, but with "No Night Visits Fri., Sat & Sun".

note: To find out when Bob's visiting hours and days are by calling 603: 796-3600 press 1-1 between 7 am - 4:00 p.m. only, according to http://www.ci.concord.nh.us/govmnt/county/concordv2.asp?siteindx=Z20,09 (Ronald White, Dept. of Corrections) [press 2= directions, 3= academy program, 4= administration; + 5= after hours for bail only.] I've been to both the old jail as an inmate, and to the new one as a resident of the County taking the Grand Open House tour, getting a free frisbee after the refreshments a couple of year(s) ago.  Here are two photos of the place: http://www.smrtinc.com/justice/pop_b3_e.htm

*** http://www.mass.gov/courts/courtsandjudges/courts/superiorcourt/#essex

Essex County Superior Court
Thomas H. Driscoll, Jr., Clerk
34 Federal Street
Salem, MA 01970
(978) 744-5500, x331

footnote #2:  After my visit with Jason I had a nice visit with "Godzilla Bob" in Salem who found the "Ed Brown" info I had e-mailed him about very interesting. The Art Corner was THE place to be that night, me seeing him before the 6-9:00 artists reception party with refreshments, of course, and then back again after going over to at least one of the three planned events at The Witch House, The "Friendship" at the Wharf +/or House of Seven Gables that'll have to wait until next Saturday. In the meantime I did visit a Ghost Hunter: Dan Tremblay at the bookstore who was friends with Bob Cahill, the author of those local history booklets on ghosts, pirate stories of buried treasure, etc. (like the author Edward Rowe Snow used to lecture on at the Historical Societies in N.H. where and when I first met him back in 1972 over in Salisbury, N.H. over from New Hampton School), Bob Cahill, BTW, the former Essex County Sheriff, since deceased, R.I.P.

** on my bear left excursion I did stop for directions in Beverly at the local liquor store and bought: (1) a BERKSHIRE BREWING CO. bottle of 1 PT. 6 FL. OZ. STEEL RAIL EXTRA PALE ALE for my former boss, who collects train stuff, with some locomotive engine #12 on the label; and (2) a 6-pack of WACHUSETT Octoberfest ALE with the colorful label and carton, plus blue and white engraved bottle cap from Westminster, Massachusetts WACHUSETT BREWING COMPANY, * Since 1994 *.

Free Maps: So if you're in the area like on next Tuesday, just head south on any road off of Rte. 62, like 114 the main drag to Salem afterwards for some other Halloween stuff. I took the right/south road at the lights by Exit First Realty that has a free local map of the area.

[Sheep Fuzzy Wool]

The core truth has nothing to do with taxes. 

The point Ed has been trying to make since day one.

The fact that Daniel Johnston is manic depressive, on meds and believes in satan, his song, art and intrigue are sought by the public for the simplicity? Are they fans because of his beliefs or what he creates?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436231/
http://www.hihowareyou.com/

[JosephSHaas]

P.S. If you do go to Salem. MAss. this October for the Halloween Party, the local 7-11 and other stores have the downtown map showing Lafayette Street going up to Essex Street as the start or junction of where to hit the main attractions.

Just outside the Post Office is a rock surrounded by numerous very tall flagpoles with the American Flag flying high. To find a postcard of this. _____

The inscription on the metal plate fastened to the giant boulder is:

"John P. Riley, U.S.N. 1876-1950 Congressional Medal of Honor

--In Conflict with the enemy distinguished himself conspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty at Cienfuegos, Cuba May 11, 1898  Dedicated June 7, 1959 "

Compare: Danny Riley, a relative (?).  Certainly in the same brave fashion.  Of:

--not like the Feds who cowardly did NOT "cut" the phone lines to Ed's, BUT merely convinced supposed mighty giant, VERIZON, actually a wimp of a telephone company, to "turn off" the account!  based on a lie that they have RSA 123:1 jurisdiction from 1-8-17 U.S. Constitution, when the Feds are really in a non-filing mode, as the truth of the matter needing some county judge to throw the book at them:  literally: and say: SIGN IT, with the filing of your papers! and/or "BACK OFF"! back to your federal soil.

--but who took Article 10, N.H. Constitution, Part First & Bill of Rights to the extreme, to "keep" the freedom for us all, his liberty "stolen" by the Feds, needing a release on Habeas Corpus to sue the thieves!

Yours truly, - - Joe Haas

P.S. Over at http://www.google.com for the words: "John P. Riley" "Congressional Medal of Honor" in quotes, the one and only website is: http://www.spanamwar.com/ceinfuegosgen.htm

[JosephSHaas]

So this is Ed's address now?

Ed Brown #03923-049
Elkton FCI
P.O. Box 10
Lisbon, Ohio 44432

Kat, WHERE did you get this address?

Over at: http://www.federalprison.com/federalprison/html/E%20Fed%20Prison%20Facility%20Info.html it does list this as THE address, BUT that the phone # 1-330-424-7448 has been disconnected!

There's a different address for FCI Elkton (RL Morrison, Warden) P.O. Box 89, Elkton, OH 44415 over at a 2002 website: http://etext.org/Politics/MIM/agitation/prisons/censor/oh/federalohiojuly02.html

Is there a more up-to-date website somewhere?  that has this or that address, or maybe a new one? And WHAT is the correct telephone number?

JSH

[kola]

Justice for the Browns?

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/FREE.html

Kola

[Bill St. Clair]

http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/elk/index.jsp
http://www.bop.gov/DataSource/execute/dsFacilityAddressLoc?start=y&facilityCode=elk

[JosephSHaas]

http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/elk/index.jsp
http://www.bop.gov/DataSource/execute/dsFacilityAddressLoc?start=y&facilityCode=elk

Thanks Bill. To call the 1-330-420-6200 # at 8730 Scroggs Road in Elkton on Monday to see about visiting days and times. __________

In the meantime I hope that Ed is being served good food.  Look at this decade-old website where the electricity went off and they got the green food: (like Solyent Green) http://prisonactivist.org/pipermail/prisonact-list/1998-March/001357.html

JSH

Modification: e-mail to Elton FCI = ELK/EXECASSISTANT at BOP.GOV

also, what the heck are they still(?) doing down there at Elkton FCI, taking in contaminated water?, or do they live and work next door to a municipal garbage dump? with burning battery gas over fence to them breathing it in, or what? See cadmium over at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium A more updated report to 2006 of here and elsewhere of the report entitled: "OSC: Poisons Expose Staff and Inmates to Hazardous Materials" by Loren Smith, 202-254-3717 e-mail: lsmith at osc.gov , U.S. Office of Special Counsel, 1730 M. Street, N.W., Suite 218, Washington, D.C. 20036-4505 http://www.osc.gov/documents/press/2006/pr06_06.htm from the main website of http://www.osc.gov 1-800-872-9855. Let's hope that they've cleaned up this 2006 mess in '07? or have they? and if still working on WHAT details, WHEN will this mess be cleaned up?

[JosephSHaas]

Bill, Here's the online version of your ad on page #____ of the actual newspapers: Foster's Daily Democrat (in Dover, N.H.) http://www.fosters.com and The Laconia Citizen http://www.citizen.com for today [Sunday, October 14th, 2007]:

http://www.marketplacelocal.com/portalWeb/portal.aspx?groupid=433&pagename=itemdetails&channelid=156&categoryid=2167&subcategoryid=402&itemid=48007207&adid=18631172&advertiserid=&itempage=2&sitempage=1&textSearch=Wanted&operation=Search&previousPage=Search

from the Marketplace / Classifieds box in the upper right of "Fosters", and "Citizen" (both papers) put the "Wanted" word in the Search box, and see page #2 of 12 with 188 items under the "Help Wanted" section.

Joe

Modification: Bill Riley for Danny of course.

[Kat Kanning]

So this is Ed's address now?

Ed Brown #03923-049
Elkton FCI
P.O. Box 10
Lisbon, Ohio 44432

Kat, WHERE did you get this address?

I think it was the BOP.gov site.  I hope it was right, I already sent mail there!