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Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 25

Started by JosephSHaas, November 09, 2007, 11:15 AM NHFT

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JosephSHaas

Quote from: coffeeseven on November 10, 2007, 11:35 AM NHFT
By the way the free weekly newspaper that I write a guest column for has chosen not to run my story on Ed and Elaine 5 weeks in a row. To be fair they lost the original and the resubmission  ::) so they have really only refused to run for 3 weeks.

I won't recommend that anyone harass the Rock River Times about this but I'm sure they would appreciate reader comments. (They are online)

If you get a response as to why my article will not run let me know.

Jailed for a law that doesn't exist
Submitted Monday, October 08, 2007
By Rick Jones

http://www.rockrivertimes.com
rrtimes@rworld.com
Editor: Brandon Reid

C7,

--I did just call to there at 815-964-9767 and the woman who answered the telephone said that this is a local newspaper, so because Ed is not within Illinois, they are not interested. Maybe an Ohio newspaper* might like to report the hearing(s) on his Petition for a Writ of Habeas Corpus.  Like to have Ed conduct the first hearing, and after the newspaper story of him going at it alone, some attorney to the rescue for an appearance and win.

Thanks for the idea, -- Joe

* pc: Tim Yovich, the Crime Story editor for the http://www.vindy.com/ The "Vindicator" newspaper for Youngstown, Ohio where the Federal Court is located for Ed in Elkton.  The title reminds me of that bull in "The Rare Breed" western movie with James Stewart. yovich at vindy dot com thanks to Ohio Newspapers over at http://www.usnpl.com/ohnews.php [the other two newspapers for Youngstown being for: Afro-Americans, and The Business Journal.]

coffeeseven

Thanks Joe.

I thought most newspapers were local except USA Today and the Wall Street Journal. Thus proves the myopic authority of the last stronghold of free press  - The independent newspaper.

As we huddle nice and cozy inside our Rockford, Illinois homes waiting for the federal wolf to knock at the door.

JosephSHaas

C7, I did just send Tim an e-mail @ exactly 2:05 p.m. to see about any reply. - Joe

P.S. There's an "Ask '?' The Expert" there that I signed up for too,  8)  since learning about the E.O.'s, T.O's and CFRs here, in addition to what I did already know about the OMB#'s, etc. [No brag, Just Fact, as Walter Brennan used to say on "The Guns of Will Sonnett" 1960s TV western.] - - Maybe some landlord might log in for a tax question that I can tell them about that section (5) of the I.R. Code as un-constitutional saving them $thousands! with maybe a finder's fee to help Ed with his to-be-hired attorney.

coffeeseven


JosephSHaas

#19
Quote from: coffeeseven on November 10, 2007, 01:32 PM NHFT
So is Ed getting his mail? Do we know?

Yes.

Modification: yes, to the current; maybe soon for the past that's piled up at the Post Office since the Marshals ORDERed them to HALT the mail deliveries to 401 Center of Town Rd.

Raineyrocks

Quote from: keith in RI on November 09, 2007, 05:00 PM NHFT
Quote from: raineyrocks on November 09, 2007, 03:57 PM NHFT
Geesh Keith, why in the world won't they let Elaine have stamps for crying out loud?  How does she get letters to you then? 

Thank you for posting the pictures, it made me sad but it's important that no one forgets and just let this be something that is forgotten over time as so many other things in this country have been.

That's another reason I love this forum because none of us just forget somebody. :)

That's a smart idea to list the contents in your letters.  Did you know Ed and Elaine personally?  I want to write but I don't have the foggiest idea of what to say because I don't know them at all. :-\

I bet Ed never got the pictures. >:( 

Does Elaine mean that Ed has been in isolation for 3 weeks?  If so, why?

Thanks for posting this! :)



inmates (i hate calling them that) cant have stamps because they are traded like cash inside. that is what the guards told me when i called last week. they aid the only thing you can mail in is letters (personal) pictures (no polaroids) books (softcover up to five at a time clearly marked as books) hardcover must be sent from the manufacturer from a private address. and they can receive subscriptions to newspapers and magazines. that is it.  all guests of the prison must buy stamps from the commissary. as well as everything else.

the pics make me kinda sad too but i like the one of her sitting with her arms crossed because shes smiling. actually i like the one of her cooking too but only because i love cheeseburgers and those tasted good i remember....mmmm   cheeeeesburgerrrrs. lol  i met them personally only once that day of the second concert.( i tried again on the last concert but was stopped at the road block. i am the person who posted video of the road block on youtube. yeah i know i should have stood up at the road block like lauren did but it was my first encounter with a federal agents and i was more worried about getting it on video then fighting but i have kicked myself ever since) i remember asking her why she wasnt smiling. she just looked tired and worn then. both of them did. i may have met them only once but i used to talk to danny through his email for a couple months. i realized as soon as i heard about ed and elaine that their fight is OUR fight and like reno used to say if not me then who? if not now then when? i know one thing others may but i will never forget or abandon ed and elaine or the rest not now when they need us and everybody more then ever. they definitely taught me to not be afraid and make a stand!

as far as writing to them. what are you afraid of? just say hello. my name is ____and thank you. do you know how happy they would be to start receiving hundreds if not thousands of letters everyday from people they have never met telling them how they have affected their lives? and offering words of support. it is a very very lonely place in there. the only thing they will have sometimes is our letters and photos. afraid of sending a letter or dont know what to say? send a photo of you holding up a free ed and elaine sign? send a book a magazine a photo anything.....like nike says JUST DO IT put yourself in their position would you want letters? what would you want people to tell you?

here is a link to my roadblock video like i said dont harrass me i do it to myself enough...  :(

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2261697231309840194

Thanks, that is some good advice and I will just do it! :D

Dave Ridley

Transcript of Letter I got from Danny Riley Oct 4. 

Sorry for the slow action getting this transcribed.  It's interesting that he is so excited by "all I have done for him" when the only thing I've done is show up outside a couple buildings with the "free the brown supporters" sign.   I guess that means most people are doing virtually nothing for him.   Same probably goes for some of the others.

I have probably got some spelling errors here that are mine not his.

<<  Dave,

Great to hear from you!  I really appreciate all you have done for me.  I loved your postcard.  it is worth its weight in gold.

My time as a P.O.W. have been terridble I just ended a six day hunger strike.  I could not take the pain anymore and the staff said eventually I would be force fed with an IV.   With nothing to really gain, I gave in.>>

<< I pretty much just keep to myself.  I fired my lawyer a few days ago because he refused to file my writ of habeas corpus, he also lied to me that if I cooperate with the enemy that he would have a good chance of getting me out in a week.  I told the feds stuff I wish I never did.  It pissed me off when my lawyer said he never said it was a definite that I would be released.  all lies!  I believe my lawyer was part of the enemies camp (being a former fed prosecuter).  I will never cooperate again I will fight till the end no matter what the out come (looking at 20 years)

I hope more patriots are helping E and E to fend off the enemy.  Their fight is all of America's, if they lose we lose.   Tell E and E I said Hi and that I love them.
I would also like to say Joe Haas has been a big help morally.   Dave, I always enjoyed listening to your audio blogs @ QFFT, you are definitely a patriot.  I wouldlove to see a protest outside the strafford county jail with signs saying "innocent people should not be in jail" LOL

I did file a writ of habeas corpus in strafford county superior court (mailed yesterday). I sent a copy to Joe and my brother billy.  The defendant is the Jail superintendent warren dowaliby.  the jail notory refused to notorized the writ so i made note to the judge stating i have no access to a notary.  the next day when i sent the paperwork out to be photo copied it came back notorized illegally.   it was done without me being present, in blue ink, and get this, back dated to cover their criminal activity.  I notedall this to the judge.  you know we should really call these judges captains because i notice only maritime flags fly in their court rooms.  maybe they believe we're on a ship because they are ruling us with maritime law to gain juridiction as art 3 sec 2 gives them in the constitution.

as for something to read, a subscribtion to a local newswpaper m-f would be nice.  by the time i get a newspaper its 2 weeks old

tell everyone i said hi Kat, lauren and the troops I appreciate all you have done for the cause.  take care

POW Danny Riley>>


armlaw

Quote from: JosephSHaas on November 10, 2007, 01:37 PM NHFT
Quote from: coffeeseven on November 10, 2007, 01:32 PM NHFT
So is Ed getting his mail? Do we know?

Yes.

Modification: yes, to the current; maybe soon for the past that's piled up at the Post Office since the Marshals ORDERed them to HALT the mail deliveries to 401 Center of Town Rd.


Joe...In my continuing research concerning the "JURSDICTION" issue, (which apparently has been ignored?) I found this standing  Stump v. Sparkman (1978) U.S. Supreme court case which is self executing. Here is a portion of it verbatim;

"On appeal, the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit reversed the judgment of the District Court, 4 holding that the "crucial issue" was "whether Judge Stump acted within his jurisdiction" and concluding that he had not. 552 F.2d, at 174. He was accordingly not immune from damages liability under the controlling authorities. The Court of Appeals also held that the judge had forfeited his immunity "because of his failure to comply with elementary principles of procedural due process." Id., at 176."

It would appear to me that since the congress has not delegated criminal jurisdiction to the USDC, that this is an issue that must be explored for justice to prevail. As I have posted before, "original criminal jurisdiction" is delegated to "district courts of the United States" , 18 USC 3231 and NOT to "United States District Courts" . some may call it semantic subterfuge and others, sedition by syntax. I like the latter.

Dave Ridley


keith in RI

joe is it possible for someone to file a friend of the court brief in support of dannys motions and position on issues? i know corporations and non profits do it all the time. can individuals? it would be nice for the judge to receive a bunch in support of danny?

keith in RI

elaine has added me to her visiting list! i sent her the form last week telling her i may not be able to go to see her much but im only 3 hours away and i could probably make it once a month or so. she returned it to me signed with instructions on who to return it to, her counselor steve Mcmahon (good to know, he is the one to call with concerns about elaine. (ed must have a counselor too. anyone know his name? ) she sent a note with the form saying look forward to seeing you! i cant wait to get this finalized and get down there to see her. has anyone been yet? it will be good to see her with my own eyes and when i go i will definitely take video of the prison and area so people can see where she is and what its like. hopefully she doesnt get moved before then!

Kat Kanning


JosephSHaas

Quote from: DadaOrwell on November 11, 2007, 06:23 PM NHFT
Transcript of Letter I got from Danny Riley Oct 4. 

... I wouldlove to see a protest outside the strafford county jail with signs saying "innocent people should not be in jail" LOL

I did file a writ of habeas corpus in strafford county superior court (mailed yesterday). I sent a copy to Joe and my brother billy.  The defendant is the Jail superintendent warren dowaliby...

as for something to read, a subscribtion to a local newswpaper m-f would be nice.  by the time i get a newspaper its 2 weeks old...

POW Danny Riley>>


1. Signs + Habeas: So Dada: You want to protest in Dover with signs one of these days? jail +/or courthouse, and if so when? The judge didn't give the Super. +/or his legal counsel, the Strafford County Attorney time enough to either agree or dis-agree with the Habeas, by denying Danny (within hours that's usually up to 10 days for any reply of objection) both his procedural due process for a "complete" hearing by Art. 14, N.H. Const., Pt. 1 & Bill of Rights (converted into a mere privilege) and the Petition, that's been appealed to the Supremes.  It was received there on 26Oct.'07 with the acknowledgment letter sent out Nov. 6th for this Docket No. 2007-0745 that I saw last Friday in the Clerk's Office where Donna Nadeau, the Window Clerk there told me that it was NOT a Mandatory Appeal, BUT a Discretionary Appeal, and so the Supremes might DECLINE to take it.  Anyway, when I read the original letter with Danny on my Sunday visit to see Jason* and him, Danny said that was O.K. because then he has exhausted his state remedies for such and can now go to the Feds for release by Christmas is hoped for, Danny saying more like New Year's Eve. Then the other three "Freedom Keepers" will know that it works, and can have their Superior Court judges let them out too per their petitions to file for maybe their release by January ___ '08 at the state level, in Merrimack County too.

2. The Newspaper: In the Strafford County Jail pod where Danny is now, there's three inmates currently receiving the http://www.unionleader.com on a daily basis/on time, so if somebody here would like to donate a trial subscription at: $_____ for #__ weeks to the http://www.concordmonitor.com Danny said that is what he would like to receive, to see how often that arrives, since he only got a few of the http://www.fosters.com from the subscription I signed him up for #several weeks, so the C.O.'s absconding with some of "The Foster's Daily Democrat" newspapers: thieves! having turned it into The Foster's WEEKly Democrat.

3. Fellow inmate: Bill Miller, (a) according to his mother Marie, who I did speak with on the phone last Friday, was transferred out last Wednesday, Nov. 7th to the N.H. State Hospital in Concord, where she visits him any day of the week, from 12 noon to 8 p.m., and anybody here too.  I think I wrote about his condition before? maybe not, of him in there a week thinking it a month, and his mother seeing him beat red in the face one day, as never before she said; my guess that maybe his emotional outbursts that I've seen too might be a medical/chemical imbalance they call Bipolar Disorder that a friend's son has and he too went to the State Hospital who I used to visit with his father, him O.K. now, and hopefully Billy too, and after his Dec. 4th court date maybe for them to nol-pros, especially since his yelling to his neighbor two houses down the street, might not have really annoyed the family in the middle house as witnesses to it being not as loud as they say, from private land to private land, the COPs got involved in what was said and how relayed to them by the woman neighbor. And (b) according to Danny, Bill went nuts one day asking for a drink of water, not getting any, so desperate like a man crossing the desert in the heat of the noonday sun, setting off the sprinkler system in his max jail cell, and the alarm building wide, and another inmate reporting back to the pod of going by his cell to court and hours later seeing Bill still strapped naked to the chair.

4. Jason.  I saw him before seeing Danny on Sunday afternoon. He'd doing O.K. too, as Danny, and for him to maybe do something about this State-Federal contract that is supposed to exist, so reads the B.O.P. website, but that doesn't exist so wrote Jeffrey Lyons, the Information Officer from the N.H. Dept. of Corrections to me today in his e-mail of 8:43 a.m. as soon as I can get the documentation for such from the State Dept. of Administrative Services to where the Dept. of Corrections sends their monthly reports by the fifth of the month, them in turn billing the Feds $47.68 per inmate per day (that Danny thinks is more $money when you're in Max). A re-type of his e-mail to me, some of the Billing document, and my e-mail to the Dept. of Admin. Services, to follow.

JSH

P.S. Ed & Elaine's Electric Account. With a print-out copy to Ed (and Elaine): please give me a POA to contest your ill-treatment as a N.H. Electric Co-Op customer, so that I can tell them at the Dec. 18th meeting (3rd Tuesday of the month) @ 9:00 a.m. [579 Tenney Mountain Highway, Plymouth, N.H. 03264-3154], Tel. 1-800-698-2007, that what they did to you by shutting off your electricity (to internet-free speech rights, and to counsel), was both unlawful and illegal, per 1-8-17 U.S. Const., to N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 since the latter paperwork from the Feds to request such from a 501C12-a tax-exempt company does NOT exist at the Office of Secretary of State as required by the "shall" word in the statute to pay you $x amount as monetary damages, and to use as a violation of procedural due process in your Habeas case too, plus to pre-vent such wrongs to current +/or future customer(s), Attn: Mark Dean, their lawyer who just returned by call to Sharon Yeaton, to get on the agenda.


JosephSHaas

Here's a re-type of the e-mail from Jeffrey Lyons, the Public Information Officer at the N.H. Dept. of Corrections, that was sent to me at 8:43 a.m. this morning:

"November 13, 2007
Dear Mr. Haas,

--This is an electronic mail response to your request for documents under RSA 91-A.

--I am not aware of any state-federal relations agreement that you mention in your correspondence.  The New Hampshire Department of Corrections does not manage any contracts.  All contracts with all state agencies are approved by the Governor and Executive Council and administered by the New Hampshire Department of Administrative Services, 25 Capitol Street, Rm. 120, Concord, NH 03301. 603-271-3201.

--We do however have a Department of Corrections policy pertaining to how we bill federal agencies for housing federal jurisdiction inmates when we have them.  I have attached that policy.  Our current fee is $47.68 per inmate per day.

--There is also a Department of Corrections policy based on New Hampshire State Statutes pertaining to the acceptance or rejection of non-jurisdictional offenders housed in New Hampshire facilities under the Interstate Compact agreement.  I have attached that one as well.

--his is the best response I can provide for you on this matter.  Any requests for documents or information pertaining to the Federal Bureau of Prisons should be directed to them.

Jeff Lyons, Public Information Officer, NH Department of Corrections"

JSH

JosephSHaas

Here's a re-type of my e-mail letter of exactly 12:52 p.m. today:

"To: The State of New Hampshire, Department of Administrative Services, Attn: Don Hill, Commissioner, 25 Capitol Street, Room 120, Concord, N.H. 03301, 603: 271-3201, http://www.state.nh.us Dear Cindi:

--Here's a copy of the computer-printout, that I've signed as the original to you, after my call to Mike, to please forward to Don or the 'Deputy Compact Administrator', etc. or WHOever.

--What I'm looking for is a copy of both: (1) the 'Monthly Report's from 'the Offender Records Office' over at the N.H. Dept. of Corrections for by October 5th and November 5th '07, and; (2) the actual bills for all 'FEDERAL INMATES' to WHOever at WHATever federal office (name), and WHERE at: ___________, plus WHEN and for what $amount, and HOW: by electronics, the U.S. Mail, or personal delivery?

--Would you please send me this information within five (5) business days, so by next Tuesday, November 20th @ __:__ o'clock p.m. to me at the address below for receipt in my mailbox on Wed. morning, Nov. 21st.

Yours truly, - - - - - - - - - - Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059 (cell phone).

cc: Jeffrey Lyons, Info Officer e-mail: jlyons at nhdoc dot state.nh.us

note: See N.H. RSA Ch 123:1, from Art.I, Sec.8, Cl. 17, U.S. Constitution, for the June 14, 1883 offer of 'Consent'."

JSH