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Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 25

Started by JosephSHaas, November 09, 2007, 11:15 AM NHFT

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JosephSHaas

Quote from: coffeeseven on November 27, 2007, 01:49 PM NHFT
Quote from: JosephSHaas on November 27, 2007, 12:52 PM NHFT
...it looking good of Elizabeth's principles of fighting corruption on her website...

That would be the case with all of them I talk to. Talked to two more today that once they found out the particulars said that they "don't do Habeas work". Thier website makes them look like friggin' gladiators.

Thanks Coffee, as in Sheriff Coffee on Bonanza?  You a relative?  If you are he was one heck of a lawman on the screen, like these "friggen' gladiators" on paper only. A paper tiger?

They come up with more excuses than Carter has pills, as they used to say.

That's why I did write that "I GIVE UP" on this talk-talk, and more talk bullshit, from what must be bullshit artists wasting my time and money.  The attorneys can rot in hell after they're done here, and to stay in their respective states.  God help those who are put into the sphere of their corruption.

As for me I'll continue to help Danny, and if/when he wins, then these attorney might look to making some "easy" money by tagging along on his coat-tails, the brown-nosers they are to the Feds, being wimps and chicken shits.  Let them eat corn from the ground is what I say.

-- Joe

JosephSHaas

Here's a re-type of my e-mail of today @ exactly 3:03 o'clock p.m.

"To: The Strafford County Delegates
with e-mail as State Representatives
from: http://www.co.strafford.nh.us/delegates.htm
Dover, N.H. 03820
Tel. 603: 742-1458 County Commissioners

Dear Delegates/Reps. Berube*, Grassie* (Clerk), Hofemann, Knowles*, Miller, Rollo*, Rous, Schmidt, Smith, Spang, Vachon*, and Wall* [*= Member of Executive Committee].

This is to follow up my telephone call to the Commissioner's Office today, finding out that there might be their next Public Hearing portion of their twice-monthly meetings on maybe Dec. 13th + 27th, as nothing is scheduled for Thursday, December 6th @ 9:00 o'clock a.m.

What I wanted to talk about is as written in paragraph #7 over at the 'Introduction to County Government' website page of http://www.co.strafford.nh.us/intro_county_gov.htm and in particular: paragraph #1 under 'The primary functions of the Strafford County Commissioners are as follows' wherein it is written that 'To carry out all administrative, legal, and financial obligations of the County...(that) includes supervision of the Strafford County Department of Corrections...The goal of this office is to fulfill the above-mentioned functions in a timely and cost-efficient a manner as possible.'

Now here is my complaint: On October __ I telephoned the in-house legal counsel woman for Superintendent Warren Dowaliby, and suggested that even though the Judge Stephen Houran (former assistant Attorney General from Laconia) dismissed Case #07-E-0244 without a hearing BEFORE the County Attorney was given the standard ten (10) days to either agree or object to the Petition for a Writ of Habeas Corpus filed by my friend Dan Riley, see http://www.danrileyld.blogspot.com she ought to give her legal opinion anyway, because that's all the judge issues is but his 'opinion', the decision for a Habeas Corpus, being what? That of the County Commissioners in the Executive Branch? Or maybe the delegated powers for such from them to the Superintendent?  WHOever has the power to take has the power to give, and so since the Super. took him in as a service to the Feds, I find no such agreement with the State-Fed, as verified by Jeffrey Lyons of the State Dept. of Corrections.  He told me last Wednesday that the only inmates they're currently billing the Feds for are 3-4 Immigration cases to Boston.

My presumption is that in exchange for the $millions in federal funds received by the county, that to house two or more federal inmates is peanuts in comparison, and so you overlook any billing.  If that is wrong, then to please advise me otherwise what's going on here is that withOUT such a legal opinion, you don't care that the county might be sued for that $2,500 per day as per the formula down from the Veronica Silva case of the 1980s in the State Board of Claims, reference: Attorney Andu Volinsky who got $5,000 in that deal.  http://www.state.nh.us

The case is currently on appeal to the Supremes who have given it a Case No. 2007-0745 and instead of giving it the fast track, by Art. 91, Part 2, N.H. Constitution, have set the regular Briefing times of to Dec. 26th '07 + Jan. 25 '08 respectfully for the Brief and Reply Brief from the Attorney General's Office.

So as Legislators and Delegates, to save the county money, not in this case, but in the future, as by to submit a House Bill #___ for 2009 if you're re-elected, would you please consider such and/or attend the next Public Hearing on the re-arrangement of the Court Rules.  To change it so that the standard ten (10) days applies up front, but NOT the standard briefing on an appeal, in effect putting the RSA or Rule #___ in complement with Article 91.

Yours truly, - - - - - - - - - -  Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059."

JSH

JosephSHaas

RE: Visit to the Merrimack County Jail. (Boscawen)

I did just call 796-3600 to there @ 3:54 p.m. (before they close 7-4:00 p.m.), and press #1, then #1 again for visits and Officer Stewart/ Stuart (spelling) said that I've got to call back in the morning after 7:00 a.m. to see if I'm on the list to visit the inmate (Bob Wolffe) at 8:30 a.m. when it starts).

So in other words if I lived like say two hours away, I'd have to drive 1/2 hour, call from a phone, and if not allowed, to drive back!?)  What type of system is this?!?

JSH

keith in RI

maybe we should try to get elaine a lawyer instead? what is it she means when she writes that even i could file a habeous??

JosephSHaas

Quote from: keith in RI on November 27, 2007, 03:19 PM NHFT
maybe we should try to get elaine a lawyer instead? what is it she means when she writes that even i could file a habeous??

Forget about writing or calling.  Somebody here ought to go into the New York City office of Andrew Napolitano and ask him if he wants to take the case. Preferably with a bunch of $100.00 bills.

When she writes that even you could file one, it's usually as a next-best-friend thing when they are reduced to having to write such on toilet paper with their blood I've heard as an example. 

But I tried this once for my friend Bob Bonser back in the 1980s at the N.H. Supreme Court, where and when Ralph Wood, the Clerk at that time said: yeah, Mr. Bonser from Nottingham, N.H. can come in to file his own petition.  Yeah: right! as if the jailer is going to let him out on a field trip for this one event.  I never heard the end of this story, Bob taking this joke to the grave with him, R.I.P. out for a couple of years after this incarceration for several months, his son and daughter-in -aw plus grandson now running the business he started after he got out of WWII before zoning, with grandfather clause, them/ the town, telling Santa to take a hike.

- - Joe

P.S. There was also a hand-delivered habeas for Bob that I took to the U.S. District Court in Concord back then too, on appeal(?)/ having to exhaust your state remedies first, and I put it in the in-tray at the Clerk's Office, then went back the next day to find it still in the in-tray, handing it to Valerie and throwing the tray to the ground, saying it was worthless, her buzzing security, and the Clerk William Barry (later became a Magistrate) escorting me out and down the elevator and off the property, then the James C. Cleveland Building at 55 Pleasant Street with the parking meters seen on Colantuono's website now barricaded after the Timothy McVey bombing out west, my cousin driving by that morning before the explosion.

note: plus one time I asked for a Progress Report from Shane Devine, the Chief Judge there, in his office, door wide open one day (before all the security now), and he said he'd get to work on it from the bottom of the pile, as the squeaky wheel gets the grease; him the complete opposite of Martin Laughlin, hearing that I was looking for him one day, writing me a letter back that I was not to go beyond the secretary desk even if nobody was there. In other words: talk, but don't walk.  Use your vocal cords. 

coffeeseven

Quote from: keith in RI on November 27, 2007, 03:19 PM NHFT
maybe we should try to get elaine a lawyer instead? what is it she means when she writes that even i could file a habeous??

Does her son intend on hiring a lawyer on her behalf?


keith in RI

Quote from: coffeeseven on November 27, 2007, 04:31 PM NHFT
Quote from: keith in RI on November 27, 2007, 03:19 PM NHFT
maybe we should try to get elaine a lawyer instead? what is it she means when she writes that even i could file a habeous??

Does her son intend on hiring a lawyer on her behalf?

i sent him an email tonight. here is what he said, i asked him a bunch of questions.

Keith:

I'm on my way to bed, so I'll need to reply to you again tomorrow to 
answer all your questions, but I just spoke with Joe earlier tonight 
and said the exact same thing about a lawyer talking to my mother 
instead of Ed.  If you are planning on visiting during the week, I 
don't believe the odd/even day rule applies Monday through Friday.

I do feel a little better talking to Joe.  I think he's a bit 
optimistic, but I also like that about him.  He's not as willing to 
lie down or throw in the towel as others.  As far as my plans, I was 
hoping to avoid the seizure of the properties, although I don't know 
how to proceed; i.e.: who to call, what to ask, what to say, etc.  My 
task for the rest of the week is to compile a list of who to send the 
petition to, and to try to talk my sister into calling the US 
Attorney's treasury agent because nobody there has been returning 
calls, and she is absolutely ruthless when people ignore her.  Also, 
the search for a lawyer is always on my mind, and as you know, that's 
no easy task.

I agree that somewhere out there someone would appreciate the house, 
but I don't think it's worth waiting eight years for that buyer to 
come along.  They need the money if they're going to fight this 
properly as soon as possible.  Since they couldn't keep any money in 
bank accounts, that house represents their retirement fund.

Anyway, I'll elaborate tomorrow.  Off to bed for me now.

Thanks,
David

JosephSHaas

#158
Quote from: coffeeseven on November 27, 2007, 04:31 PM NHFT
Quote from: keith in RI on November 27, 2007, 03:19 PM NHFT
maybe we should try to get elaine a lawyer instead? what is it she means when she writes that even i could file a habeous??

Does her son intend on hiring a lawyer on her behalf?

I got a call from David at about 7:00 p.m. this evening, and I just sent him an e-mail.

See Reply #____ just above, re: my phone call of Tue., Nov. 6 (exactly 3 weeks ago) to Assistant U.S. Attorney Ron Raybach and that Forfeiture woman, Kim Cooper on speaker phone telling me that a Treasury Agent will get back to me on the RSA Ch. 480:1 rights to homestead items ($100,000 x 2 husband + wife = $200,000).  But as yet with NO reply, probably because I'm an outsider.  David saying that estate expert Elaine has had for years to maybe get the POA and claim such, plus make sure the water is out of the pipes in the business block + house to prevent a REAL freeze, unlike when they "tricked" Ed originally!   Then to have the $money for an attorney.  Them maybe reading this now, and so with money bags they're sitting on, of course NOW they will take the case! David's sister to follow up with morning, noon and night phone calls until they get tired of her constant calling and she gets an answer.

-- Joe

P.S. Thanks Keith. I just noticed the "Warning: while you were typing a new reply has been posted.  You may wish to review your post."

The only two things to add, are the $value of Elaine's dental equipment, and I also called Bernie tonight and he said that although RSA Ch. _____ exempts tools of your trade to a specific $dollar amount, the Feds allow all of it he thinks to the 100% level. See http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-XLIX-480.htm for RSA 480:1-9, and section __ in particular. Try 480:4,I for taxes, but only at the state level right? And when they are declared a debt*? See also the Exemption statute RSA Ch. 51:2, VII "The uniform, arms and equipment of every officer and private in the militia", IX, "Tools of the debtor's* occupation to the value of: $5,000" and XVI "One automobile to the value of: $4,000" http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LII/511/511-2.htm

* Notice that it reads: debtor as in something owed.  One does not owe taxes until they have been declared a debt due.  "A tax, in its essential characteristics, is NOT a debt" BLACK'S LAW DICTIONARY, 5th Ed. (c)1979, page 1307, the N.J. case.

Modification: I did just call the 225-1552 # for the U.S. Attny's Office in Concord at 7:51 a.m. this morning and the woman's voice said good evening, to call back from 8-5 or press # and leave a message to the mailbox # press letters of Coop-er for Kim Cooper #2667 that I did and told her to get her act together, off her ass in gear and get moving for a name and number of the treasury agent who is supposed to get back to me, re: the $100,000 RSA 480:1 homestead exemptions x 2 for Ed & Elaine, and RSA Ch. 511:2 listed items to get and sell to pay an attorney for their Habeas Corpus actions in Ohio + Conn. and that if I don't get an answer by mid morning, to expect morning, noon and night telephone calls (in the plural), from David's sister, and maybe some of us ought to call there too, as like for a progress report of has Joe received his answer yet? Thanks.

Update: I did just call there again at 8:00 a.m. exactly, and the woman transferred me over to "Rob" Raybach's unknown # where I left him a similar message, of that IF he contacted the Treasury Agent, that person (he or she) NEVER got back to me, and IF he did not contact them yet to do so now, better late than never.

keith in RI

lasnt night i sent an email to andrew napolitano through his website asking if he would be willing to take ed and elaines case. i said there was money available....im not really lying, lol...but i doubt well hear back from him.

keith in RI

i just clicked on my name near karma and it says someone has ignored me...wonder what i did to deserve that?? lol

coffeeseven

Quote from: keith in RI on November 28, 2007, 10:36 AM NHFT
i just clicked on my name near karma and it says someone has ignored me...wonder what i did to deserve that?? lol


It's not the ones that ignore you that cause you grief. Don't give it a second thought.

LordBaltimore

Looks like Bob Wolffe cut a deal after all, Joe.

QuotePlainfield

Brown supporter plans to plead guilty
He's one of four allies facing charges in case

By Margot Sanger-Katz
Monitor staff

November 28. 2007 7:20AM

One of four supporters of Ed and Elaine Brown who pleaded not guilty to criminal charges of helping the couple evade capture will change his plea, according to court documents.

According to a docket entry, Robert Wolffe, 50, of Randolph, Vt., is slated to change his plea of not guilty in a hearing next week.

Neither Wolffe's lawyer, Paul Garrity, nor prosecutor Bob Kinsella from the U.S. attorney's office would comment on the case or say whether the parties had reached a plea agreement. But web postings from Wolffe's wife in recent weeks suggested that Wolffe had been negotiating with authorities.

"He has accepted a plea bargain," she wrote about a month ago. "That means that as soon as the next hearing can be arranged, he might just walk out."

Last night, Valeri Wolffe said that she speaks to her husband "all the time" but did not know anything about his decision to change his plea.

Wolffe, who was the Vermont commander of the U.S. Constitution Rangers, a national anti-government group that Ed Brown once led, was initially charged with just one crime, accessory after the fact. According to prosecutors, Wolffe and his wife, Valeri, brought their camper to the Brown's Plainfield home to stay overnight on several occasions, and they lent a car to the couple. Wolffe told marshals that he was prepared to die defending the Browns, and he acted as their armed guard on occasion, according to prosecutors.

Wolffe also offered his home as a transfer point for supplies after marshals cut postal delivery to the Browns' home. According to an online posting at the time, supporters were invited to double-wrap packages for the Browns and send them to the "Liberty Defense Project" at Wolffe's home address. Court documents allege that supplies delivered through Wolffe included more than 500 pounds of dehydrated food.

On the day of Wolffe's arraignment, Garrity asked the magistrate to give Wolffe a quick detention hearing, since he was in "a different position" than the other defendants, who had all been charged with conspiracy and with bringing weapons to the Browns' Plainfield home. But after prosecutors introduced evidence about the marshals' investigation and described how Valeri Wolffe had packed their car with guns and clothes following her husband's arrest, Garrity withdrew his opposition to Wolffe's continued detention.

Since then, Wolffe has been held in several local jails that contract with the marshals to hold federal prisoners. In an internet message described by the poster as a copy of Valeri Wolffe's e-mail, she said that her husband had reached a plea deal with prosecutors and would return home soon once the details were finalized.

But a court filing penned by Wolffe himself seemed to contradict that account. In his 35-page pleading, which was rejected by the judge because it did not come from Wolffe's attorney, Wolffe challenged the jurisdiction of the court, the honesty of his accusers and the legitimacy of his indictment.

In the document, he acknowledged that he and his wife had loaned the Browns their car, that they spent evenings at the property, that he videotaped U.S. marshals, that he carried a gun on the property and that he delivered supplies to the couple. None of those actions constituted crimes, he wrote.

"It is an undisputed fact that my actions were falsely construed as a crime by my false accuser," the document says, naming a deputy U.S. marshal who worked on the case and the prosecutors. "However, for want of any evidence, and for want of proof of mens rea, and actus reus, my actions are all shown to be totally and completely lawful acts of rightful, peaceful remonstrance."

A few days later, a grand jury indicted Wolffe on several additional charges, which could significantly lengthen his sentence if he is convicted. Wolffe is now charged with two counts of conspiring with three other supporters to impede the government, in addition to the original charge. The four men are scheduled for a trial in late January.

Another recent court filing suggests that prosecutors may be negotiating a plea with another defendant in the case. According to prosecutors, Daniel Riley of Cohoes, N.Y., has met with government officials several times since his arrest "each pursuant to a proffer letter." The document says that Riley gave detailed answers to questions about his experience at the Browns' home and that many of his statements have been corroborated by law enforcement.

The Browns held off federal authorities for months while entertaining guests and collecting weapons, but the two were captured by an undercover team of U.S. marshals in October. They are serving 63-month prison sentences for tax-related crimes. The Browns and many of their supporters, including Wolffe, believe that there is no legal basis for the federal income tax.

U.S. Marshal Stephen Monier has suggested that the Browns may face additional charges for their behavior during the standoff. Recent court documents have described a significant cache of improvised explosive devices found at the home after their arrest.

keith in RI


dannys letter to me this week made me believe there is no way danny is ever going to take a deal. he sounded like he was in for the long haul!


Quote from: richardr on November 28, 2007, 10:51 AM NHFT
Looks like Bob Wolffe cut a deal after all, Joe.

QuotePlainfield

Brown supporter plans to plead guilty
He's one of four allies facing charges in case

By Margot Sanger-Katz
Monitor staff

November 28. 2007 7:20AM


Another recent court filing suggests that prosecutors may be negotiating a plea with another defendant in the case. According to prosecutors, Daniel Riley of Cohoes, N.Y., has met with government officials several times since his arrest "each pursuant to a proffer letter." The document says that Riley gave detailed answers to questions about his experience at the Browns' home and that many of his statements have been corroborated by law enforcement.


Kat Kanning

CNHT is ignoring you, keith.  Maybe you said something pro-democrat. ::)