Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 25

[DonnaVanMeter]

Reno too, on all the letters he sends me.




                                 "There is no waste of time in life like that of making explanations." - D'Israeli

[keith in RI]

maybe i should have clarified better. that was me telling margot to bugoff....not bob. everything after the ====== is me talking.

Tell Bob I do the same, put my stamps upside down. I also write Ron Paul for Pres 2008 next to it. Kudos to Bob for telling Margot to screw off. She is just a crumb in the corruption pie that is being served.

Kola

[kola]

gotcha Keith!..and glad to see you can read through the bullshit of Miss Katz-enjammer...just another fecal parasite.

Kola

[coffeeseven]

Margot has my permission to print anything I write. Especially if it turns out to be  completely wrong or obviously fabricated. 

[DonnaVanMeter]

Margot has my permission to print anything I write. Especially if it turns out to be  completely wrong or obviously fabricated. 

after she gets ahold of it, and works her magic on it, normally it ends out that way.

[Dave Ridley]

i don't appreciate folks here calling reporters names.

Does anyone have any updated information regarding the scheduled friday hearing for Wolfe?  I'd still like to go demonstrate but would like to make sure the hearing is still on.

[JosephSHaas]

According to Donna van Meter's Myspace, Reno wasn't moved.

Here it is Folks.

I received word from Cirino about court today, he was very pleased with his lawyer, Cirino praised the efforts put forth by his representation despite an angry disgruntled judge, whom for some reason was pretty hostile to Cirinos Public Defender. His Lawyer shredded through the testimony the Marshal gave when the Marshal did not have his facts straight, Thank you Mr. David Brownes for shinning some light on the blatant flatout lies and the BS that they are doing to Cirino. We knew Cirino would not have bond set or would be released today, even with this you did put up a fight, and moved a few people in the gallery when you spoke about the kind of person, the man Cirino is, all he has done and aspires to accomplish.

thank you

Donna VanMeter ....

Thanks again Donna, and Richard for this info about last Thursday's Bail Hearing Nov. 29th, plus Reno with the details to me in his letter of 12/3, Monday that I received in yesterday's mail, Wed. 12/5 that "Mr. Bownes did a great, no terrific! job in the court room. -- At the end there was even a woman crying in the back.  I can only guess that his words about me* reached her. There should be a blog placed up by now at my page. -- I am requesting a copy of the transcripts of that bail hearing." [* and maybe of your brother too Reno, of being with the Texas Rangers, fighting corruption/ "going against the 'Brother Hood' of 'the law' there / in any small town Sheriff Dept. takes courage.  He currently serves at another close town's P.D...to bust C/Os at the Jim Wells Co. Jail, where he "worked there at the time; for beatings/ abuses that happened there" but the Magistrate "was openly hostile with my lawyer.  The judge openly saying my brother was a 'bad cop'(?)/" ]

It looks like David Bownes did subpoena the U.S. Marshal in Texas to this N.H. hearing.  Reno writes that in "my first hearing in Texas" that Marshal _______ said "that I have a view/ claim that the U.S. is a Fascist government. But in this hearing HE described the Deputies as 'TROOPS' during the raid on my father's home." This is "very" interesting, because a troop is a group of soldiers.  The word soldier defined as "An enlisted man as distinguished from a commissioned officer".  So did David also subpoena the Commissioner in Texas?, and if not then WHY not? David: see Attorney Larry Becraft's excellent website from Alabama of the single and double-filing states over at http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm So what is Texas? A single or double-filing state? And if the latter, were they (past tense) and are they (current tense) in compliance with their state statute?

The answer found at Larry's website is that in addition to recording their deed at the Registry of Deeds they also must make "application" to the Governor by Vernon's Annotated Constitution of the State of Texas, article 16, section 34, ART. 5247.5275-6. Federal jurisdiction. At page 208 of 229 (page 72 of 90 @ the 100% print-out), with Texas at pages 204-210 and p. 69-74 respectfully. So David: WHERE is the "application" to the Governor?  Does it exist down there, and IF not, then there has been a violation of Reno's procedural due process rights there based upon there being no substance, AND up here too, as this Federal court withIN the state of New Hampshire is also/ or stands alone as withOUT jurisdiction (too), in that there is no N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 filing as required by our State Legislature who gave the Feds conditional "Consent" from 1-8-17 U.S. Const., as long as they filed with our N.H. Secretary of State. An offer for "concurrent" jurisdiction that was made to the Feds by the state on June 14, 1883, but that the Feds declined.

To send Reno another copy of: (1) the transcript excerpt of the Jan. 17, 2007 part of the trial; (2) the two Affidavits of Feb. 1+ 6, plus; (3) the third Nov. 5th '07 or a new gold sealed certificate of federal non-filing. The copy of the ones I already sent him re-forwarded to his attorney, or Donna? as he requests same; for current action? in what? A motion to reconsider? within ten (10) days that ends this Sunday, Dec. 9th, so something to get postmarked by Mon., December 10th. He would really like any information: Jason - re: of what your lawyer found of that "State-Federal jurist ruling" in Louisiana of a crime on federal turf, but because the Feds did NOT file with the Governor, it was a "state" crime.

So WHEN, if at all, are Danny and Bob going to have their Bail Hearings for release before trial at the end of next month? I think it was Jason who already had his hearing that I attended, and now this same Magistrate Muirhead saying in Reno's case that "Only 'nutcases' own 50 cal rifles.  Yeah he said that in open court!" Jason was from Missouri: the "Show Me" state, but Minn.esota deserving of such, as already written here in Reply #___. Thus Danny from New York, and Bob from Vermont remaining with the opportunity for their bail hearings too.  So if Danny has a Bail Hearing, can his attorney subpoena the N.Y. Commissioner/ re: in non-compliance with the N.Y. statute p. 181-186? Hey, I only have so many hours in the day: Bill- you're going to have to research this yourself.  Danny already contesting it on THIS side of the border, with his appeal to the Supremes. This leaves Bob: as I've already found out: Vermont and Maine are single-filing states IN compliance, and so that Maine Judge George Singal to rule in your part of the case, that yes: there has to be jurisdiction proven for you to enter into a plea agreement, and since there is none for N.H., that you be released upon the filing of a Motion to Dismiss. To see you in court this Fri., Dec. 7th tomorrow @ 1:30 p.m. should be "very" interesting!

JSH

P.S. Plus thank you Margo for your newspaper article in yesterday's http://www.concordmonitor.com at pages B1+6 (just above the "Mummy" case) at http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071205/NEWS01/712050315 entitled "Judge okayed seizing home in June" on a "writ of entry", and the yet to be un-sealed file #________ of "In the Matter of the Tax indebtedness of Elaine A. Brown" where she wrote from Danbury, Conn. and asked "the court to halt its seizure of her home...pending proof of jurisdiction on the record by the plaintiff."

[DonnaVanMeter]

Thank You Mr. Haas, so much would go undone without your hardwork, and dedication  to the freedom of Cirino, the Four, and Ed n Elaine Brown. I can honestly say I dont know what we would do without you, i truely mean that from the heart. I can not express in mere words the gratitude and my appreciation for everything that you have done and are doing.

Thank you!

..> donna

[JosephSHaas]

An OPEN LETTER;

To: The United States of America
U.S. Department of Justice
Attn: H. Marshall Jarrett, Counsel
Office of Professional Responsibility
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Suite 3266
Washington, D.C. 20530
Tel. (202) _____________
e-mail: _____________
http://www.usdoj.gov/opr/process.htm ....

Update: I did just call the D.C. Office at 1-202-514-3365 from the http://www.usdoj.gov/dojofficials.htm#eousa website and the woman there told me: (1) that she cannot verify receipt of my letter of Nov. 20, since it takes six weeks to process, and; (2) that his name: William Morse, is NOT in their system, and so they cannot act as the middleman for WHERE to send my complaint to the Bar Association in the state for where he is a member for proceedings on my complaint for misconduct to Rule 16(c).

Thus Local Rule 83.2a. here in New Hampshire http://www.nhd.uscourts.gov/ru/local-rules/83.2.asp does NOT apply since he is NOT "a member of the bar of any United States District Court", otherwise his name would appear on this master list of "Attorneys for the United States" in Washington, D.C.

So this leaves one of two possibilities according to http://www.nhd.uscourts.gov/ac/bar-admissions.asp for either: (1) Local Rule 83.1 but that after my call this morning to Sherry there at the N.H. Supreme Court, 271-2646, they don't have him listed either; and so this leaves (2) only Local Rule 83.2(b) for four criteria to be satisfied: of 1. "be a member in good standing of the bar of any court of the United States or the highest court of any state" the answer being the U.S. court of: ________ or Supreme Court in the state of: ___________, 2. WHO filed the required Pro Hac Vice "motion"? ___________ (Tom Colantuono?), with 3. "affidavit"; and 4. the "$100 fee".

For me to re-call the U.S. District Court @ 1:30 p.m. when: Janice will be back from her lunch break, 225-1423, who told me this morning that she would talk with Deputy Clerk Dan Lynch about this, but, who at about 12:20 p.m. was is a meeting.  Yeah: probably in a meeting with the Clerk Js.R. Starr to see how they can delay my obtaining this motion and affidavit, indicating him from the state of: _______ to WHERE to file this complaint and have him put in bad standing, thus eliminating requirement #1 of 4 to have the N.H. judge "may at any time revoke such permission for good cause without a hearing", and so evidence of mal-administration for Ed to use in his case for a mis-trial, to whom the Four Freedom Keepers backed up Ed's right to revolt against this corruption, and were right!

JSH

P.S. ....

Update: Here's a re-type of the letter I received in the #10 envelope yesterday:

"UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, DISTRICT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, 55 PLEASANT STREET, ROOM 110, CONCORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE 03301-3941  OFFICE OF THE CLERK  James R. Starr  Clerk of Court  Telephone 603-225-1423

December 4, 2007

Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, NH 03302

Re: USDC-NH Bar Admission of William Morse

Dear Mr. Haas:

--I am responding in writing to your oral request for bar admission information on Attorney William E. Morse from the Office of the United States Attorney for the District of New Hampshire.

--According to our records, Mr. Morse is properly admitted to practice in this district pursuant to LR 83.2(a).  The Office of the Clerk of Court does not disseminate to the public personal information provided by attorneys seeking membership to our bar, including their bar memberships in other states or districts as well as any written petitions to become a member of our bar.

Sincerely,  Daniel J. Lynch, Chief Deputy Clerk   DLJ/ "

So there you have it folks: an in-writing reply that throws the light to Washington that just because his name is not on their master list, it must be on file somewhere down there, for them to forward to the state Bar, and to get back to me within 6 weeks of Nov. 20th, and so by Tuesday, January 1st being New Year's Day, then by Wed., Jan. 2nd, and what? #____ weeks for that state Bar to hold a hearing on this? The Mon., Jan. 28th trial start is fast approaching, and might have to be extended pending the outcome of Morse being disciplined for not providing the exculpatory evidence in the Brown case as required by Rule 16(c) on page 192, the evidence of non-jurisdiction for the non-filing to N.H. RSA 123:1 from 1-8-17 U.S. Const. that ought to result in a mistrial in the Brown case, and so all the Four Freedom Keepers released too, as of their Art. 10 right to revolt against a federal government gone running amok* as the outlaws they are!

* amok: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_amok See my Reply #____ for these gov't agents as the real militants from the word militate: to use force as evidence, v.s. Ed, the Art. 10 revolutionary with the evidence of federal non-filing, and my Reply #_____ about those who say: the end justifies the means, as in to violate someone's right to procedural due process of law, as being the "sociopath"s they are, first thought of having "internal parasites" and then some "spirit possession" (see also my Reply #__ on this too, as Monier needs these lies extracted from him to be the truth-maker) over to this "sudden explosion of internal tension created by life in a HIGHly hierarchical society" (emphasis ADDed as the Marshals are on HIGH red- alert, and resent it when they are told that they must prove jurisdiction they know does not exist!  Where are your papers?  Or as the Germans used to say during WWII: "ver are yer papers?" The word high defined as many? In which case they should not be so like the "beserker of the Norse" (yes, see this beserker word in my Reply #__ above too) nor like the Zulu, because there is only one oath they subscribe to: and that is THE Constitution of the United States of America.  Pure and simple. Read Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 for "Consent" by the Legislature in the state where you want to do business.  Does it exist?  If not, then you have NO jurisdiction! This is a dissociative connection, or disconnection, and so there being orders and disorders, dis as in like a foul ball, an order that is not right but wrong, and so needs to be dissolved as in to dis the order, get rid of it, either a win by Habeas Corpus, like Danny is doing, or for Bob to have the judge entertain a Motion to Dismiss from him since only a party with jurisdictional authority has the power to enter into a plea agreement, and withOUT which there can be no criminal case!

[JosephSHaas]

If you have mail for Ed, hold onto it for a couple of days. He's en route to his new destination. Currently at the transfer center in OKC, but that's temporary.

How temporary? days, weeks, months?

http://bop.gov/iloc2/LocateInmate.jsp for Edward Lewis gets many different individuals by the same name, so try the search under Register Number 03923-049 gets you to http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/okl/index.jsp click on the "Contact Information" gets you over to http://www.bop.gov/DataSource/execute/dsFacilityAddressLoc?start=y&facilityCode=okl for the address:

INMATE NAME & REGISTER NUMBER
[Edward Lewis, clan: Brown, Reg. No. 03923-049]
FTC OKLAHOMA CITY
P. O. BOX 898801
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73189

Tel. 405-682-4075*

Another packet of mail going out to him and Elaine, plus the other Four Freedom Keepers this afternoon on the 6:00 p.m. truck from the Concord Post Office N.H., and if it's not forwarded if he's moved before it arrives, and is returned, then so be it, to re-send to his new address then.

JSH

* I just called this number, and after the recorder with the man's voice over to the woman's voice, let it ring fifty (50) times on the double-ring system, after I pressed zero for the inmate, so now to try just to stay on the line, result: five rings to the single rings 30x, then the double-ringing system again 45x, so seventy-five (75) rings, still no answer, better to try in the morning or night? rather than the afternoon.

note: usual time at Transfer Center being #___ days? #___ weeks? with visiting days and hours of: ___________?  from __:___ am/p.m. to __:___ o'clock am/pm?

[JosephSHaas]

ELAINES "AFFIDAVIT" OF WHAT HAPPENED THE NIGHT OF THEIR CAPTURE SENT TO ME AND RECEIVED TODAY.

NIGHT OF THE CAPTURE

ED AND I WERE CAPTURE IN THE EVENING OF THURSDAY OCTOBER 4TH 2007,

... ONE OF THE MARSHALLS KEPT TELLING ME HOW GLAD HE WAS THAT WE WERE NOT SHOT. THAT THEY REALLY DIDNT WANT TO HURT US. OF COURSE THEY DIDNT THINK, OF THE BAD P.R. IT WOULD BRING THEM.

HE WAS SHOUTING AT ED AT THE POLICE STATION, ABOUT HOW HE (ED) BROKE THE LAW, ETC.. THIS MAN ALTERNATED BETWEEN CONCERN AND VERBAL ABUSE. HE IS THE ONE WHO KEPT HIS HANDS ON ME THE WHOLE TIME, FROM THE HANDCUFFING TO THE POLICE STATION. I DONT KNOW IF THAT IS PART OF THEIR TRAINING, OR IF HE HAS A MENTAL PROBLEM OF SOME KIND. FOR EXAMPLE, WHILE AT THE HOUSE HE HELD ME BY THE ARM EVEN THOUGH I WAS HANDCUFFED AND SURROUNDED BY A NUMBER OF ARMED MEN, HE STARTED SHOUTING IN MY EAR ABOUT MY CRIME, HOW I SHOULD HAVE PAID TAXES, HOW WRONG WE WERE, ETC ETC. I TOLD HIM I WOULD NOT RESPOND TO HIM, SO HE SHOULD STOP TALKINGTO ME. HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO TALK AS MUCH AS HE WANTED, AND I HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO LISTEN TO HIM. I JUST TUNED HIM OUT BY PRAYING SILENTLY....

ELAINE ALICE : BROWN

Elaine: If I were you, I would have said to that jerk: "Ver are yer papers?" as in the 123:1 papers that do NOT exist?  Yeah you jerk, if you're reading this: Wise up! - - JSH

[keith in RI]

joe i just called the 405 number and after about 5,000 rings a guard answered and i asked what the average time an inmate is in that facility? i told him i had a friend transferred there and i wanted to know if it was worth sending him mail or if they are in and out in a couple days?? he told me the average stay in that facility is 3 weeks to 3 months. and they will get mail sent to them as long as it complies with regular rules....

[JosephSHaas]

i don't appreciate folks here calling reporters names.

Does anyone have any updated information regarding the scheduled friday hearing for Wolfe?  I'd still like to go demonstrate but would like to make sure the hearing is still on.

Dada, What do you mean "reporters" in the plural?  I thought it was just Margo, her always calling that Mark Potok jerk at the Southern Poverty Law Center for advice on what to say in her being a spoon-fed journalist in that regards if you really want to call her a journalist, from the word journalism: "The collecting, writing, editing*, and publishing of news in periodicals."  We all know that she is not a first class journalist because her editor* does a hatchet job on what she writes, and in order to keep her job there to get her weekly paycheck so her horse can be fed, she allows her name in the bi-line even though some of the words are not hers, but his on some hidden agenda, as Bill wrote about here of this newspaper owned by the higher-ups that are really the lower-downs as the dregs of society dishing out lies to the masses, brainwashing our people, the future jurors, to try to get them away from being our peers. This type of bullshit has got to stop!

As for the Friday hearing in courtroom #___ or letter ___ for Bob Wolffe @ 1:30 p.m. it's still on schedule as I just called the Court Clerk's Office @ 225-1423 who confirmed this day, time and place. I'll be driving by with my honk on the horn to your flags, keep up the excellent work! And to hopefully see Gary D. there too, as I just called him on the Marshal phone #225-1632 and left a voice mail of WHO this jerk Deputy Marshal was and is who likes to lecture those in handcuffs Stentor style, to see if he can take his medicine in reverse! Like "Ver are yer papers?" sonny boy.

JSH

[coffeeseven]

1.     EDWARD BROWN     03923-049     65     White     M           04-30-2012      OKLAHOMA CITY FTC

INMATE NAME & REGISTER NUMBER
FTC OKLAHOMA CITY
FEDERAL TRANSFER CENTER
P.O. BOX 898801
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK  73189

[LordBaltimore]

Has a scan of Elaine's Affidavit posted anywhere online?