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Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 25

Started by JosephSHaas, November 09, 2007, 11:15 AM NHFT

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JosephSHaas

Quote from: kola on December 11, 2007, 04:51 PM NHFT
Are you saying the feds never had  a warrant?

Kola

They had a warrant, but what kind? It certainly was not a lawful one, since they have yet to file their RSA 123:1 papers as directed by Art. I, Sec. 8, Clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution. I called Warren Rudman about this and he said this allegation is "ludicrous"! Laughable because of obvious absurdity, in his mind, but like I've said before, these end-justify-the-means people saying to hell with procedural due process of law, are sociopaths needing their heads examined!  And "they" send away vocal people like Bill Miller when he used his voice like a Stentor being like the sound of fifty (50) men, them calling such talk or yelling disorderly conduct of even when said in a private place it was heard in public, and they didn't like what he had to say too.

The oath of the Marshal is to ONLY execute "lawful precepts".  If these four cases ever make it to trial, all they have to do is: (1) put the original or a certified copy of: (a) the Marshal's oath, and (b) the arrest/ bench* warrant, into evidence, and have both of them marked as Exhibit #____ + ____ respectfully to go over to the trial jury, with: (2) a certified copy of the evidence of non-filing to RSA Ch. 123:1 as signed by Bill Gardner, the N.H. Secretary of State under the gold seal into Exhibit #___ and have the jury decide: yes or no, of whether the warrant is lawful or not! And when they find that it is not, then that's a part of the closing argument: you must or shall find the defendants not guilty, but instead recommend to the Grand Jury that they investigate the corruption within their own court!

I received a letter from Reno yesterday saying that he got the gold seal document and it was a great surprise, and sort of like Charlie getting the Golden Ticket in that "Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" movie of 1971, see http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067992/

Yours truly, - - Joe

* P.S. The word bench is defined as: "The judge's seat in court".  And a seat being "A center of authority".  So maybe a motion might be in order to inspect the judges "seat" to see if it has the State Seal branded thereon, and if not then why not? To which he might say why should it? To which you could reply that you're just exercising your Ninth Amendment Rights to discover just what warped authority from elsewhere they're dealing with over there, because they certainly do NOT have the authority from our State Legislature as required by law, and so are deserving of the Whoopee cushion, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whoopee_cushion because what air is breathed out through the judge's nostrils and mouth is rotten to the core, so rotten that that he deserves the Whoopee cushion award!


Jim Johnson

The Union Leader gets it's news from makethestand.com.   ;D

Browns shared beer, pizza with captors

By KRISTEN SENZ
Union Leader Correspondent

Convicted tax protesters Ed and Dr. Elaine Brown were eating pizza and drinking beer with their captors moments before they were tackled and arrested on Oct. 4, according to a recent letter purportedly written by Elaine Brown and posted on the Internet.

In the letter, posted on www.makethestand.com, Dr. Brown, a dentist, wrote that about a week before her arrest, she replaced some broken fillings for a man identified as "Dutch/Dan," one of the undercover U.S. marshals who executed the Trojan Horse-style arrest of the Browns at their Plainfield home.

Convicted of felony tax evasion last January, the Browns were both sentenced in April to more than five years in federal prison, sentences they are now serving in out-of-state facilities. They barricaded themselves in their Plainfield home for more than nine months, avoiding apprehension and receiving support and assistance from hundreds of supporters who agreed with their assertion that the federal income tax is unlawful.

"Dutch/Dan had been working his way into the confidence of our friend for some time, professing to be a supporter and sympathizer of us and our cause," Elaine Brown wrote.

After she fixed the man's fillings, he offered to get the rest of her dental supplies from her West Lebanon dental office, which was seized by federal authorities during a heavy show of force in June.

"(Dutch/Dan) went back and forth to New York a couple of times during the week, so he said, getting in touch with some associates to assist him in getting the supplies. He scouted out the office to see what kind of security was there... so he said," Elaine Brown wrote. "I had asked him why he would take such a risk for someone he didn't even know; his answer was 'because I love you guys.' I remember those exact words."

Dr. Brown wrote that "Dutch/Dan" and four of his "associates" arrived at the Browns' house Oct. 4, carrying four bags of what they purported to be dental supplies.

"Dutch/Dan also brought three pizzas, and we broke out the beer, we all sat on the front porch eating pizza and drinking beer, just relaxing," she wrote. "Suddenly, they all jumped us."

Dr. Brown claims Dutch/Dan secured her hands and another officer used a Tazer on her left knee. The other men "had Ed on the floor, they had actually forced him out of his chair, through the front door, and onto the foyer floor..."

The Browns were transported to the Lebanon Police Station, according to the letter.

"After an hour or so, I was taken from the police station," Dr. Brown wrote. "I passed by the cell Ed was in. We kissed through the metal screen. That is the last time I saw my husband."

The Browns were then taken to the Wyatt detention center in Central Falls, R.I., before being transferred to other facilities, according to Dr. Brown, who wrote that she was not allowed to bring her asthma medication with her and suffered two asthma attacks during her first week in prison.

Ed Brown remains in isolation at a federal prison in Elkton, Ohio, she wrote.

At the end of the letter, Elaine Brown compliments the skills of undercover agent "Dutch/Dan."

"Dutch/Dan was very good. Ed and I had our suspicions, but we let our guard down. Perhaps the situation was starting to get to us. I know I was starting to get itchy about being unable to leave, and having to rely on others. It had to end one way or another, and so it has," she wrote.

Elaine Brown said she is continuing to fight in defense of her belief that the average American isn't liable to pay federal income taxes.

"I have met some amazing women here who have opened my eyes to a new path in our quest for freedom," she wrote. "We are working along that road now, in our continuing effort to expose the fraud in our government. Is this why I am here? Only the future will tell."


JosephSHaas

Quote from: Facilitator to the Icon on December 12, 2007, 12:57 AM NHFT
The Union Leader gets it's news from makethestand.com.   ;D

Browns shared beer, pizza with captors

By KRISTEN SENZ
Union Leader Correspondent


Thanks FTTI,

--The comments so far are inquiries of what type of Pizza, and maybe from what establishment we could find out? After that Court Order we heard about, but have never seen, just that red paper that was handed out at the roadblock* said we had to get PUBLIC Marshal permission to visit PRIVATE land!? this is what Bernie and I did anyway, was give a call over to Gary one day who said: fine, you have permission to even take him a piece of cake, as the Marie Antoinette saying of: qu'ils mangent de la broche "Let them eat cake" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Antoinette to read that "The Affair of the Diamond Necklace" over at http://www.joslinhall.com/diamond_necklace_affair.htm ___ later and the New Hampshire Connection over at http://treasurequestxlt.com/community/new-hampshire-ghost-towns/6691-new-hampshire-ghost-towns-3.html see Hillsborough County, Part 5 at the top of the page, see also The "Isle of Shoals" Part 4 too of The "Nottingham" sunken ship story I had never heard before, only that tale by Edward Rowe Snow of a box found and then buried in the middle of some pond in MAssachusetts. 

So when Ed & Elaine win their freedom from this unlawful government, they ought to be released with credits, so that any federal antiquities act requirements that the lion's share of any historical find be reversed to the gov't getting the lamb's share.  >:D Like when we charter a boat out to Boon Island over in Maine to recover the "12 large, blood red rubies were aboard the 'Nottingham' in a metal box inside the ships safe enroute to the Americas in 1710 when the vessel wrecked on an exposed rock known as Boon Island just N of the Isle of Shoals and off Portsmouth.  The gemstones, worth more than 1 1/2 million today, have never been recovered."

Actually, Bernie and I went to the Pizza Hut in Claremont I think it was, on our way to see Ed & Elaine after my Newport District Court hearing that day, and brought him up some pizza (green pepper and onions) as an approved substitution according to Gary, little did we know that months later, the Pizza Delivery #2 would do them in.  At our time we had Pepsi rather than beer, so the moral of the story is to watch out for Beer guzzling Marshals.  ;D

Yours truly, - - Joe

* The Roadblock video, thanks to Keith: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2261697231309840194

** My comment, being #___ over at http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Browns+shared+beer%2c+pizza+with+captors&articleId=976cf4a8-7fc0-4963-b606-9a3eeef87132 with the exact wording being: "Hey! What type and brand of beer was it?  I'd like to order some for when David Dees has his artist autograph-signing in the parking lot of where Ed is now at the F.C.I. in Oklahoma City.  When Ed can co-sign the paintings of those 'Show Ed the Law"*** ads by signing with a pen through the fence. The proceeds to benefit his Habeas Corpus fund. I heard that an attorney's in contact with the place to place the call for the contract for maybe a release by Christmas." - *** Now that would be a "really big shoe" as Ed Sullivan used to say every Sunday night.

JosephSHaas

Quote from: JosephSHaas on December 12, 2007, 09:56 AM NHFT
Quote from: Facilitator to the Icon on December 12, 2007, 12:57 AM NHFT
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** My comment, being #___ over at http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Browns+shared+beer%2c+pizza+with+captors&articleId=976cf4a8-7fc0-4963-b606-9a3eeef87132

F.Y.I. since the http://www.unionleader.com doesn't post the times of the comments, nor tell how many they filter out by edit to make up their own display on some "hidden agenda" of who knows how many people there collecting same for re-forward onto the IRS itself for kick backs? I thought I'd mention that to my 9:43 a.m. printout there were only six comments to Tabitha of Londonderry; then I typed mine to them, and still don't see it, but see six (6) more to Benjamin of Bedford at 12:20p.m. now, wondering who will be the Baker's Dozen, #13?

- - Joe

keith in RI

-The comments so far are inquiries of what type of Pizza, and maybe from what establishment we could find out? After that Court Order we heard about, but have never seen, just that red paper that was handed out at the roadblock* said we had to get PUBLIC Marshal permission to visit PRIVATE land!?


joe this red flyer?



keith in RI

i received a letter from elaine today. she received a bunch of letters from ed all at once. i will post a scan of eds letter to elaine that she sent to me as soon as i stop crying................

kola

Miss Plagerism Margot will be "scooping" those up, Keith.

Anyway you can restrict her?

Kola

DonnaVanMeter

Quote from: kola on December 12, 2007, 12:09 PM NHFT
Miss Plagerism Margot will be "scooping" those up, Keith.

Anyway you can restrict her?

Kola
then distorting and disfiguring it

keith in RI

#278
let me say this upsets elaine very very very much! she tells me she now cries whenever she even thinks of ed! she said all she does is write letters and cry.

also on a side note. she tells me that she received the aftf videos i sent her?? she actually got them which is a surprise because the inmates arent allowed to receive anything. she gave one to another lady that was released who was also their on tax charges. she writes:
"it was the aftf dvd i wrote you that i received, and gave a copy to a friend she was released on wednesday. so she is able to watch. we have no way of doing that in here. she was here on tax charges also, as were her husband and son. husband out son still in."

and she tells me that her email costs her 5 cents per minute so even a little 1 dollar donation to her account goes a long way. it would buy 20 minutes of email time which gives her near instant contact!

modification*****
i thought about not posting it but elaine asked that i do. she wants people to know what is happening to ed. and about margot, im thinking of changing my screename to "margot is a boob" or "margot the regurgitator" so when she quotes stuff i post she'll have to use those names. what do you think?
"AND A POSTER WHO GOES BY THE NAME MARGOT IS A BOOB SAID...." :D








kola


KBCraig

Quote from: keith in RI on December 12, 2007, 12:58 PM NHFT
let me say this upsets elaine very very very much! she tells me she now cries whenever she even thinks of ed! she said all she does is write letters and cry.

Just my opinion here, but Ed is being a complete ass. No doubt that Elaine cries, because Ed has done nothing but play up the "poor, poor me!" sympathy ploy. He didn't ask a single question about how she's doing (it comes to mind that she's in prison too!), only talked about how they're trying to "murder" him.

What kind of husband does that? The selfish, self-centered, asshole kind.  >:(


Quote from: kola on December 12, 2007, 01:02 PM NHFT
Ed needs medical attention. asap.

Ed just "needs" attention, however he can get it.

kola

KB,

Being in prison can really change a person. It will bring out a persons strengths and weaknesses. It can mentally kill a person. people are treated like wild animals,..sub human. It slowly eats at you from the inside out and can kill your spirit.

Try not to condemn Ed for his weakness.

been there,
Kola

keith in RI

yes ed is self centered. isnt that the kind of person that stands up to the government? but i know ed has been like that his whole life and elaine accepted him that way and married him so im sure she wants to know what hes going though she just knows that she is helpless to do anything about it. ed also knows from us that elaine is ok and in a good prison (if there is such a thing) plus i think he gets her letters but they delay his. hopefully these lawyers will straighten that all out.

JosephSHaas

Quote from: JosephSHaas on December 12, 2007, 11:21 AM NHFT
Quote from: JosephSHaas on December 12, 2007, 09:56 AM NHFT
Quote from: Facilitator to the Icon on December 12, 2007, 12:57 AM NHFT
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** My comment, being #___ over at http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Browns+shared+beer%2c+pizza+with+captors&articleId=976cf4a8-7fc0-4963-b606-9a3eeef87132

F.Y.I. since the http://www.unionleader.com doesn't post the times of the comments, nor tell how many they filter out by edit to make up their own display on some "hidden agenda" of who knows how many people there collecting same for re-forward onto the IRS itself for kick backs? I thought I'd mention that to my 9:43 a.m. printout there were only six comments to Tabitha of Londonderry; then I typed mine to them, and still don't see it, but see six (6) more to Benjamin of Bedford at 12:20p.m. now, wondering who will be the Baker's Dozen, #13?

- - Joe

Update:  There's two more e-mails over there in the Comments section to sub-total: 14 now.  I just sent into them another one: "Tom, As Paul Harvey would say: you've got to read 'The Rest of the Story' like at Bob Wolffe's Bail Hearing on Monday when the truth surfaced that there were (past tense) booby traps, but that BEFORE the Marshals arrived during Hunting season, they were all uprooted by who knows who to prevent innocent Sportsmen from out of state who might have ventured onto un-posted property as it was posted but I think the Marshals ripped down the signs!"  JSH

JosephSHaas

Kat, You have my permission to relay and post your bcc copy of my e-mail to the N.H. Secretary of State's Corporation division, Attn: Joan, at 1:54 p.m. today, regarding the I.R.S. lien against Ed if you'd like.

Here's what Wayne sent me: 

"Contesting and Voiding IRS & State Tax Liens ('Notices')"

http://expositor1.com/wtclien1.htm

- - Joe