Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 25

[JosephSHaas]

Update on the insured envelope:

I.) There was no slip in my mail-box last night.  I'll check again today and maybe next week*.

II.) I did also call the Plainfield Postmaster, Jean @ 675-2723 today, and she said that there is no change-of-address postcard on file from Ed yet, but that if and when received, she will still have to get "authorization", but from who? Her boss withIN the Postal Service +/or the U.S. Marshal who ORDERed her to HALT mail delivery to 401 Center of Town Road, but on what "authority"?  They have none, as there is NO filing at the Office of Secretary of State, as required by NH RSA Ch. 123:1 from 1-8-17 U.S. Constitution!

* "NOT to accept it UNLESS they have the two attempted delivery dates marked thereon." (re: the quotes in an e-mail of yesterday of second thought on this matter).  "Then two can play at this waiting game, to say NO to Abbott that 'Costello' wants what he paid for: me! to have my envelope delivered better late than never, proving that justice delayed in justice denied.  That if I accepted the envelope withOUT the reason for WHY there were no attempted deliveries, then that might forfeit this defense that Ed can use in his habeas? To talk this over with an attorney** who might like to sue for this for me to ricochet and benefit Ed too.  The value of freedom worth a lot more than a mere $50.00 bill."

** Maybe just to hire the attorney to benefit Ed.  I know of no case, of where somebody fighting a "revolution"(*), as by Art. 10 right here in our N.H. Constitution, can argue after capture, that if they had received the money to pay for legal defense BEFORE the capture, might have avoided the capture altogether. Like maybe Larry Becraft who could have filed some mis-trial motion for Ed in the Federal court in Concord, and claiming that the case be sent to Maine too for pre-trial motions for discovery and dismissal on the 1-8-17 to 123:1 angle.

Such an attorney for Ed in Ohio, might be Sandra Finucane of: #___ _______________ (Street), Columbus, Ohio _______ Tel. (____) _______________ [to look up on http://www.google.com later), as I found her name in the Dr. Elsebeth Baumgartner, disbarred attorney case of her in 120-days contempt and $175,000 judgment against her for criticizing a judge, over at http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/2007/022507JusticeDelayed.html [Dr. B's husband, Joe, "owns a drug store in the area" to maybe visit and talk about Ed's case with them, and Attny. Finucane if Dr. B. is not re-instated]. This website found by a Google search for: "justice delayed is justice denied" in quotes, and to the bottom of page 2 with some other interesting websites too of:

2.) The phrase, originally from: William E. Gladstone, (1809-98), British Prime Minister (1768-94), http://thinkexist.com/quotation/justice_delayed_is_justice_denied/227920.html who also said: (b) "Selfishness is the greatest curse of the human race", and; (c) "No man ever became great or good except through many and great mistakes". Plus: from the Bible, book: ______ chapter:verse #__:__ "When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers". See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_delayed_is_justice_denied for its origin from not "the Magna Carta" but just "Magna Carta" as THE Great Charter, clause 40 "of which reads, 'To no one will we sell, to no one will we refuse or delay, right or justice'." but just look at N.H. RSA Ch. _____ that raised the court appeal fees up from $145 to $175 at the Supremes, even though Art. 14 reads of to be "free", suggesting a tax on winnings in the courts to pay this expense? HB #___ of 2009? Too bad "Civil Disobedience" to these fees canNOT be used in the courts, but only OUTside the courts, as indicated over at:

3.) "Civil Disobedience" by Peter Suber, Dept. of Philosophy, Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana, 47374, U.S.A. e-mail peters at earlham dot edu http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/writing/civ-dis.htm because "Legal channels can never be 'exhausted'. Activists can always write another letter to their congressional delegation...."(**) [see reply to follow]. And John "Lock, whose social contract theory...permits disobedience, even revolution(*), if the state breaches its side of the contract." [Reference: the Art. 41 duty of the governor to enforce all legislative mandates, as by the "shall" word in RSA Ch. 123:1 upon the Feds!, or is this what they call enabling legislation, that if they/ the Feds don't file, then they have NO jurisdiction, and so WHERE is the Art. 12 "protection" at the state, county and local levels of our government!? especially after paying into this "protection racket" by property taxes, and such a racket when AFTER payment we are NOT protected!]

Yours truly, Joe Haas

P.S.  For more "Justice Delayed is Justice Denied" as it relates to other interesting cases; see:

A.) "OUTSTANDING FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS DATE TO 1980s" over at: (1) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB102/index.htm and (2) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB102/press.htm for several filers, including The "Intelligencer Journal newspaper" from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, a neighboring state to Ohio, who might be interested in Ed's case too? re: Show Ed the law! that makes him "liable" (***) [see reply to follow].

B.) "your thoughts about poor defendants who cannot raise money for bail" over at http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Justice_delayed_is_justice_denied.what_are_your_thoughts_about_poor_defendants_who_cannot_raise_money_for_bail_and_must_remain_in_jail_pending_appeal_while_persons_with_can_pay_bail_and_be_free about "mental illness" too, re: Bill Miller's case (****) [see reply to follow].

JSH

Modification: http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/atty_reg/Public_AttorneyDetails.asp?ID=0067063

[keith in RI]

here is the post from my friend lyndse in ohio these are her letters from ed. his letters are taking 2 weeks from the time they are written to come back to us?? i think they are holding them so all his info is delayed.
plus ive sent him several packages of photos and this means he didntget any i think? also joe lyndse found all the lawyers in ohio and has sent them to ed. she also found a lawyer she thinks might be good but hasnt contacted her. she doesnt know how or what to say! here is her website....

http://www.elizabethkelleylaw.com/contact.asp

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FROM LYNDSE:

yesterday, i got to letters from ed brown in the mail, the first dated october 25 and the second dated november 2 but BOTH postmarqued november 14. it seems to take a LOT longer for mail to get through to ed and back out again, compared to elaine. here they are, please reproduce:

1
dear lyndse: boy it's great to head from good folks.
thank you for your kind words, they're humbling, but really lyndse, we're just a main stream couple that really cares about america and its people. someone had to do something. our love for eachother is eternal.
i would love a visit form people, however, i don't know the protocol. i have had no communication with anhyone since i / we were kidnapped.
i would like to get my 1611 king james bible?
prison is very cruel. i'm punished every day for something that i have no knowledge of.
sacrifice: if not us, then who, if not now then when.
i need to know what's going on out there.
god bless you, lyndse rae of the clan faba and may he keep you our friend.
-edward lews, clan brown
ps- lyndse, have you been to the internet sites TAKEASTAND.COM and QUESTFORAFAIRTRIALINNEWHAMPSHIRE.COM
i need stamps
i would like pictures of my home and my wife, etc.
do you know of any good patriotic lawyers where youre close you may be able to help
thank you- ed
"LIVE FREE OR DIE"

2
dear lyndse:
i'm sending you a follow up letter to ask you a favor. would you try to find me a layer that would help me put together a "writ of habeas corpus". i have my own funding but i need someone local that can file the paperwork, (local lawyer).
this whole thing is really starting to tick me off.
the way the u.s. attorney has created and fabricated the entire sham has got to stop. at this rate, we could lose everything. so, it's time to get angry and make it happen.
i need some help finding an honest lawyer here in ohio. to file in federal court. i need to see him or them here.
thank you, edward lewis, clan brown
a yello pages listing of attorneys could help also, time sensitive


ok-
so here's the deal.
we can't send stamps. don't send stamps, they get "lost" anyways. send $$. i'm looking for friendly attorneys, but any on capable of filing what ed wants needs to be ADMITTED TO PRACTISE IN FEDERAL COURT
i sent ed a quick note this morning with pics of the house and elaine and also the form for visitation, which i filled out. hopefully i'll be able to get in there soon, we'll see.
i have a line out on a substitute 1611 king james that i'm going to be able to send to ed.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE ED'S BIBLE ENDED UP? if someone can send it to me, i can try to bring it into the prison for him to have.

please pass along.
i'm going to be writing to elaine today to let her know what i learned and also i'll be sending ed the info for as many attorneys as i can find.

[JosephSHaas]

Footnotes to above reply:

(**) Elaine wrote me a 1-page letter of 11/12, postmarked 11/13,Tue. that I received in yesterday's mail, 11/15,Thu. that: "Can you get me the names & addresses of the 2 N.H. Senators and the 2 N.H. Reps in Washington?  I plan on writing them, re: Ed's situation, enclosing a copy of Ed's letter, it would be good if you and others* did the same." Plus IF Margo has seen Ed's letter in "the latest issue of the KEENE FREE PRESS" and "if so, would she print the truth as she claims."?  So: Scoop- have you seen it?, and if so, are you going to investigate and report on Ed's condition? * WHO here would like to do what Elaine is asking about, and if so, would you PLEASE printout the addresses for her, as I have enough stuff to do! Thanks! The websites to get their addresses are over at http://www.nh.gov/government/nhcong.html Personally I think this is a waste of time, but hope to be proven wrong. Plus WHY doesn't the F.C.I. there in Danbury, Conn. provide access to a library for this info!?

She also asks for Sven Wiberg's address that I found over at http://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=legal&Group_ID=4551 [See also http://norml.com/index.cfm?Group_ID=4551&wtm_view=legal ] and that it is NOT P.O. Box 884, Durham, N.H. 03820 (that is actually the zip code for Dover; Durham at 03824 for UNH where I went to school) according to http://legal.respond.com/profile/1700000026/1713443 BUT to write to: Sven Wiberg, 2456 Lafayette Rd. ste 7, Portsmouth, N.H. 03801 Tel. 603-686-5454 http://www.nhcriminaldefense.com e-mail: mimirblue at comcast.net according to Les, his brother, who I had a nice chat with, who is the business manager there, and on "The New England Brass Band" too, see http://www.newenglandbrassband.org/html/1998_news.html for their having "learned to play in Salvation Army bands" like their great-grandfather, Colonel Sven Wiberg (1865-1947) over at http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/m/c/mcl1/WBSVNCOL.html -- Les telling me that Elaine -- cc: to you, when you write to Sven, he can refer your letter down to an attorney friend of there's in Connecticut for your habeas case.

Plus Elaine: to call Marie Miller about Bill in a few minutes at 603: 834-_____ (on the printout) who called me yesterday afternoon, me getting her voice recording earlier, to get a progress report on her son. (****)

Also: Bernie and I to drive over to see Jason and Danny maybe sometime during their weekday visiting day that Wednesdays is what's good for Bernie he said, so Jason + Danny: to put down 1-3 p.m. and 2-4 p.m. respectfully for the Wednesday after Thanksgiving, Nov. 28th? + Dec. 5, 12 + 19 until we get to see you.  The latest question regarding Danny's court-ordered psycho-val, with the right to remain silent too, as my former legal counselor, J.A.S.,Jr. told me when I told my attorney Gerard Boyle, who is now a Concord District Court judge, that I was going through L.A.S. Legal Abuse Syndrome in the Town Tax Sale case that I eventually won the quitclaim deed, but not the stolen rents! and he suggested it to the judge Leonard S. Sawyer in the Plymouth District Court, who ordered it, but like I said, my non-attorney friend from law school who graduated but did not want to become a member of the B.A.R. said that "they" can put you away for up to thirty (30) days for observation, he told me to keep my mouth shut, that I did, and spent no time.  This L.A.S. in the newspapers recently this week in the http://www.unionleader.com on ____day, Nov. ___ @ page #___ regarding the Caroline Douglas case. See also http://www.legalabusesyndrome.org/ for us having to deal with this "court dysfunction" as in their betrayals to their oaths of office to the constitution, as in 1-8-17 U.S. to NH RSA Ch. 123:1 as outlined.  It not being an "Abuse of power and authority", but an abuse of power alright but withOUT any authority, as in NONE, zip, nada! No RSA 123:1 papers on file! And so WHERE is this supposed check-and-balance withIN the state against the Feds!? The "lack of accountability" is there, or in other words: nowhere to be found, thus leading to L.A.S. and Art. 10 Revolution, as the vent of this "stress" that "can and does lead to physical illness...and adds to Medicare and Social Security costs...and nobody is immune." cc: REDRESS2 at redressinc dot org with thanks, to add this Ed Brown case into the "Study".

E-mail:  Elaine also write to "Send me your phone # + e-mail address so I can e-mail you."  Say What? She has access to an e-mail machine?  That's what my father had in 2002, some "Mailbug" devise, but that could not connect to the internet. So yes, Elaine my home phone # is: _________ and e-mail of also Jail4Judges at hotmail dot com  ___________________________

(***) I did also get Bob's letter to me of 11/9,Fri., but not postmarked until 11/14,Wed. in yesterday's mail, 11/15, so there was no way I could have made the 8:30 AM visit 11/14, Wed.; so Bob: Wednesdays is best for you too? And later in the morning is better, so that maybe Bernie and I both could visit then head over to see Danny and Jason that same afternoon, and what about Reno?  Your letter suggesting that "We need to be able to coordinate defense strategies. Since the gov't wants to lump us all on one indictment, it is only fair that we are together in jail.  I don't know what needs to happen for them to put us together.  I hope you can find out and make it happen." is a very good suggestion, and so ASK anybody here for what motion, if any, anywhere exists for such as having happened in the past for case-law, or might one now, as coordinated by all four attorneys, do this?

Bob Wolffe also suggests "A News Conference...(since) What we did was to protect 2 Americans from being KILLED by Federal Agents!  Remember Ruby Ridge! and many others.  Our side of the story must be told. THEY made a big deal out of reporting all the armaments found at the Brown's.  We need to make a BIG Deal out of the armaments the gov't brought to the Brown's in order to KILL them!...." He goes on to say that the people, not kooks at the 7/14 get together, are still looking for "the Gov't to answer a simple question.  I think arguments like RSA 123:1 are valid, however they are too abstract for the average person to understand.  People will be more receptive to Dave Von Kliest's song (Show Me the Law)...."

Yours truly, Joe H.

Modification: http://www.concordmonitor.com for this L.A.S. Fri., 11/9, p. #__ + Wed. 11/14 @ p. B4 "My Turn" by Margaret Copely of Franklin.

[JosephSHaas]

joe the dvds are going in the mail today. i am putting them all in the same envelope addressed to c/o: all the names is that what you want or should i send them seperately addressed to each one individually? im thinking putting in one envelope and writing the names of each person on the outside sleeve? with an extra for anyone? (*)

i have also been in contact with someone for several months who lives in ohio about 45 minutes from the prison. she received her first letter from ed today, he is requesting help finding an attorney in ohio for the habeous?!  she is willing and eager to help but not having a clue what to do or where to start. i told her i would get  in touch with you and maybe put you guys in touch with each other. i told her maybe at the minimum she could help in delivering paperwork to lawyers so there is no waiting for mail? she is young but very eager to jump in. if you want her contact info email me and ill send it to you. she is also trying to get on eds visitation list (at my urging) i told her it might be good if the guards know he has regular visitors so they know not to beat on him for fear of it getting out. (**)

thirdly and off topic it seems like the liberty dollar story is true. the website has been updated with the legal documents and story. if you look at the search warrant it says very specifically they want the information on the regional currency officers and associates! they are going hunting! if you know any of these people i would warn them to get ready for search warrants to be served on them! (***)

(*) Yup, all five in one to the newspaper office is the way to go for them to distribute internally to each reporter and an extra one for the delivery person.

(**) I'll send you an e-mail in a few minutes. JosephSHaas at hotmail dot com [the same as here recorded.] That Youngstown, Ohio attorney must have gotten my packet of mail I sent him the other day. Maybe she can visit with him too, after she sees Ed.

(***) I presume that they already know this, but will call my friend Fred* here in N.H. who deals in these Liberty Dollars that they might be paying him a visit soon, and so like to have all of his records in one spot so they don't have to what? search the entire house!? What is this country coming too!?

- - Joe

* Yes, Fred already knows this, his wife just told me on the telephone.

[keith in RI]

im taking care of the addresses as we speak. im going to mail them out to elaine along with my package with the dvds in about 10 minutes.  i have addresses for sven wiberg (lafayette rd) carol shea porter (1st district) paul hodes (2nd district)john sununu and judd gregg. along with phone numbers abd email addresses.

Footnotes to above reply:

(**) Elaine wrote me a 1-page letter of 11/12, postmarked 11/13,Tue. that I received in yesterday's mail, 11/15,Thu. that: "Can you get me the names & addresses of the 2 N.H. Senators and the 2 N.H. Reps in Washington?  I plan on writing them, re: Ed's situation, enclosing a copy of Ed's letter, it would be good if you and others* did the same." Plus IF Margo has seen Ed's letter in "the latest issue of the KEENE FREE PRESS" and "if so, would she print the truth as she claims."?  So: Scoop- have you seen it?, and if so, are you going to investigate and report on Ed's condition? * WHO here would like to do what Elaine is asking about, and if so, would you PLEASE printout the addresses for her, as I have enough stuff to do! Thanks! The websites to get their addresses are over at http://www.nh.gov/government/nhcong.html Personally I think this is a waste of time, but hope to be proven wrong. Plus WHY doesn't the F.C.I. there in Danbury, Conn. provide access to a library for this info!?

She also asks for Sven Wiberg's address that I found over at http://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=legal&Group_ID=4551 [See also http://norml.com/index.cfm?Group_ID=4551&wtm_view=legal ] and that it is NOT P.O. Box 884, Durham, N.H. 03820 (that is actually the zip code for Dover; Durham at 03824 for UNH where I went to school) according to http://legal.respond.com/profile/1700000026/1713443 BUT to write to: Sven Wiberg, 2456 Lafayette Rd. ste 7, Portsmouth, N.H. 03801 Tel. 603-686-5454 http://www.nhcriminaldefense.com e-mail: mimirblue at comcast.net according to Les, his brother, who I had a nice chat with, who is the business manager there, and on "The New England Brass Band" too, see http://www.newenglandbrassband.org/html/1998_news.html for their having "learned to play in Salvation Army bands" like their great-grandfather, Colonel Sven Wiberg (1865-1947) over at http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/m/c/mcl1/WBSVNCOL.html -- Les telling me that Elaine -- cc: to you, when you write to Sven, he can refer your letter down to an attorney friend of there's in Connecticut for your habeas case.

Plus Elaine: to call Marie Miller about Bill in a few minutes at 603: 834-_____ (on the printout) who called me yesterday afternoon, me getting her voice recording earlier, to get a progress report on her son. (****)

Also: Bernie and I to drive over to see Jason and Danny maybe sometime during their weekday visiting day that Wednesdays is what's good for Bernie he said, so Jason + Danny: to put down 1-3 p.m. and 2-4 p.m. respectfully for the Wednesday after Thanksgiving, Nov. 28th? + Dec. 5, 12 + 19 until we get to see you.  The latest question regarding Danny's court-ordered psycho-val, with the right to remain silent too, as my former legal counselor, J.A.S.,Jr. told me when I told my attorney Gerard Boyle, who is now a Concord District Court judge, that I was going through L.A.S. Legal Abuse Syndrome in the Town Tax Sale case that I eventually won the quitclaim deed, but not the stolen rents! and he suggested it to the judge Leonard S. Sawyer in the Plymouth District Court, who ordered it, but like I said, my non-attorney friend from law school who graduated but did not want to become a member of the B.A.R. said that "they" can put you away for up to thirty (30) days for observation, he told me to keep my mouth shut, that I did, and spent no time.  This L.A.S. in the newspapers recently this week in the http://www.unionleader.com on ____day, Nov. ___ @ page #___ regarding the Caroline Douglas case. See also http://www.legalabusesyndrome.org/ for us having to deal with this "court dysfunction" as in their betrayals to their oaths of office to the constitution, as in 1-8-17 U.S. to NH RSA Ch. 123:1 as outlined.  It not being an "Abuse of power and authority", but an abuse of power alright but withOUT any authority, as in NONE, zip, nada! No RSA 123:1 papers on file! And so WHERE is this supposed check-and-balance withIN the state against the Feds!? The "lack of accountability" is there, or in other words: nowhere to be found, thus leading to L.A.S. and Art. 10 Revolution, as the vent of this "stress" that "can and does lead to physical illness...and adds to Medicare and Social Security costs...and nobody is immune." cc: REDRESS2 at redressinc dot org with thanks, to add this Ed Brown case into the "Study".

E-mail:  Elaine also write to "Send me your phone # + e-mail address so I can e-mail you."  Say What? She has access to an e-mail machine?  That's what my father had in 2002, some "Mailbug" devise, but that could not connect to the internet. So yes, Elaine my home phone # is: _________ and e-mail of also Jail4Judges at hotmail dot com  ___________________________

(***) I did also get Bob's letter to me of 11/9,Fri., but not postmarked until 11/14,Wed. in yesterday's mail, 11/15, so there was no way I could have made the 8:30 AM visit 11/14, Wed.; so Bob: Wednesdays is best for you too? And later in the morning is better, so that maybe Bernie and I both could visit then head over to see Danny and Jason that same afternoon, and what about Reno?  Your letter suggesting that "We need to be able to coordinate defense strategies. Since the gov't wants to lump us all on one indictment, it is only fair that we are together in jail.  I don't know what needs to happen for them to put us together.  I hope you can find out and make it happen." is a very good suggestion, and so ASK anybody here for what motion, if any, anywhere exists for such as having happened in the past for case-law, or might one now, as coordinated by all four attorneys, do this?

Bob Wolffe also suggests "A News Conference...(since) What we did was to protect 2 Americans from being KILLED by Federal Agents!  Remember Ruby Ridge! and many others.  Our side of the story must be told. THEY made a big deal out of reporting all the armaments found at the Brown's.  We need to make a BIG Deal out of the armaments the gov't brought to the Brown's in order to KILL them!...." He goes on to say that the people, not kooks at the 7/14 get together, are still looking for "the Gov't to answer a simple question.  I think arguments like RSA 123:1 are valid, however they are too abstract for the average person to understand.  People will be more receptive to Dave Von Kliest's song (Show Me the Law)...."

Yours truly, Joe H.

Modification: http://www.concordmonitor.com for this L.A.S. Fri., 11/9, p. #__ + Wed. 11/14 @ p. B4 "My Turn" by Margaret Copely of Franklin.

[JosephSHaas]

im taking care of the addresses as we speak. im going to mail them out to elaine along with my package with the dvds in about 10 minutes.  i have addresses for sven wiberg (lafayette rd) carol shea porter (1st district) paul hodes (2nd district)john sununu and judd gregg. along with phone numbers abd email addresses....

Thanks Keith.  I could have gotten that list out to Elaine as the fastest yesterday IF only I made it to the Post Office in the a.m. and worked on it right away, but today the next fastest, and so thank you VERY much for this for her, as if I was to print it out today, I might have gotten it postmarked today too, but you being in R.I. closer to maybe get to her by tomorrow? or Monday. Now that's fast! 

The latest replies with website copies too, to print out, not before the 5:30 p.m. mail-truck leaves this afternoon from Concord as usual, but to copy in duplicate tonight at KINKO'S before 10 p.m. and mail tomorrow to hopefully get to them (E+E + 4 Freedom Keepers) by next Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Every Friday from 5-7 p.m. at The Capitol Convenience on North Main St., Concord, they have a different Beer Distributor there giving out Free Samples with free pizza, and a buy a 6-pack get a free drinking glass, bottle opener, hat, key chain and T-shirt free too, so that's where I'll be at 5-:15 p.m. then over to see Bill Miller with his mother Marie at the State Hospital at 5:30 p.m./ they have a nice cafeteria there too: good stuff cheap, dinners for only $3.00 with salad, extra for drinks, or just drink water from the bubbler there; and books on take-out to Jason + Danny on Sunday. (My former lawyer turned Judge Gerard Boyle of Plymouth for Concord court eats lunches there.) During the afternoons the gift shop is open for 50-cent bags of fresh cooked popcorn, you can take in too with a soda is what my friend's mother used to do when she was visited her son with bi-polar disorder O.K. now back at his father's house in Laconia.

I told Marie not to expect an early release and more like in February (so Dec. 4 trial postponed?), since it takes months, and months to first get to that half-way house across the parking lot for campus rights to walk around there, then downtown, and if all goes well, then to be released to complete freedom is better than "liberty", since at-liberty can mean for as far as the chain reaches. Like a sailor at-liberty, but on a time chain to report back to the ship at the dock by a certain time or be A.W.O.L.

JSH

[JosephSHaas]

P.S.

I did also call Attorney Sandra Jean Finucane in Gahanna, Ohio 43230 [711 Waybaugh Drive] at 614-471-4163 to get back to me by either e-mail +/or telephone call, if she'd be interested in taking Ed's Habeas Corpus case. The Town/City of Gahanna being only #____ miles away from either Elkton, or Youngstown, Ohio? To check the map later. ____ [or maybe an associate to take the case.]

If you should call her to second this, third, etc. (maybe a team request here might get her very interested) she does have a system in place where you must give your name first, and then over to a recorder for a what looks to be, an unlimited time to leave your message.

re: http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/atty_reg/Public_AttorneyDetails.asp?ID=0067063

JSH

[Kat Kanning]

Got a nice letter from Elaine dated 11/07.  She said she received the October Keene Free Press I sent.  Will probably type in the letter later.

[keith in RI]

can someon post the addresses to give money to reno jason and bob? im sending 5 dollar money orders to each of there accounts and another 5 to dannys defense fund. i just dont know how to donate to reno jason or bob.....are they federal prisoners? do they have prison inmate numbers?

[JosephSHaas]

can someon post the addresses to give money to reno jason and bob? im sending 5 dollar money orders to each of there accounts and another 5 to dannys defense fund. i just dont know how to donate to reno jason or bob.....are they federal prisoners? do they have prison inmate numbers?

Keith, See my Reply #6421 Of Oct. 30th @ 10:24 PM on page 429 here for this list, that was updated to #314 Daniel Webster Highway for Bob and Reno (the #326 from the old telephone book, the 314 from Valeri is from the website for the new jail).  I think somebody was looking into their federal numbers, but not finalized unless and until they land in the BOP system that we're trying to pre-vent. -- Joe

P.S. I just sent out my latest packet to each of the 2+4=6 as postmarked this morning to arrive early next week.

[coffeeseven]

I think somebody was looking into their federal numbers, but not finalized unless and until they land in the BOP system that we're trying to pre-vent. -- Joe

According to their captors they are federal prisoners but do not have numbers assigned. I am transcribing a letter I got from Ed today. I will post it as soon as I have it done.

[JosephSHaas]

....

...then over to see Bill Miller with his mother Marie at the State Hospital at 5:30 p.m./ ....

I saw Bill with his mother last night to 8:00 p.m. closing time.  He reminded me that he was the coordinator when the compound first got to be THE site of the standoff, and thanked him for that affidavit idea, still wondering if they're in the federal file.  Although the military court-martial never got activated against McAuliffe, he still thinks he ought to face the music somewhere, and probably will, when the Maine judge Singal to where he sent the cases to for pre-trial in Portland rules on the Motion(s) for Discovery* of the RSA 123:1 papers that they do not exist from 1-8-17 U.S. Const., and so to grant any and all four Motions to Dismiss*.  The question being: which attorney will get this into paperwork for processing first? Or will there be a coordinated defense effort to combat their concerted effort to try them all at once?  WHEN, WHO, and WHY the wait?  Reno said last month (or in September?) that his attorney David Bownes was going to do this* rather than that state habeas in MAss. when he and Jason were down in Essex, but all I see is NOTHING, nothing, and more n-o-t-h-i-n-g. Like cattle grazing out in the pasture getting fed as going to the slaughter. One of Danny's neighbors at the jail was/is (still there>), up from MAss. as a federal inmate, and I sent Danny the paperwork that the MAss. Secretary of State is also in non-compliance with their statute as reported about by Attorney Larry Becraft on his website, for that double-filing state too, but what is he doing with that info?  The way I look at it right now, Danny is like the head cattle, with the others just wagging their tails.  If this were a war, wouldn't they have #__ maneuvers here and there to surround the enemy and then attack to win the battle(s) and then the war? Are they going to depose them, or be pounded with interrogatories? I've heard of chit-chats they've had with or from to their ears and maybe mouths open saying stuff too in return, but where has that gotten anybody?  Nowhere. WHY talk with liars and thieves!?  Such scum of the earth must be dealt with the truth!  Like Harry Truman used to say: They heard the truth and think it's hell.  Well isn't it about time they have the truth shoved in their face!? Rebuke the bastards is a loud voice, straight to their face, causing their ear drums to burst if need be. See http://www.bartleby.com/81/15885.html "The voice of a Stentor.  A very loud voice.  Stentor was a Greek herald in the Trojan war.  According to Homer, his voice was as loud as that of fifty men combined."

JSH

P.S. Here's why I did originally start to write this, and got off on a tangent.  Bill's hearing on his competency of whatever is scheduled for Monday morning at __:__ o'clock (time unknown, so 8-9 am?). And anybody is welcome to sit and back him up. I think so far: his mother Marie, Bernie and I will be there.

[coffeeseven]

Received today:

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MISTRIAL IS THE ONLY NOISE I SHOULD BE HEARING

Wed Nov. 14, 2007 AD

Dear Rick:

I thank you for all of your efforts. I'm beginning to find myself stunned by our inability to find counsel that can or will help us with clear fact of record of mistrial for many reasons.

Judge denial:

1. all evidence
2. all witnesses
3. all proper cross examination
4. tampered with the jury twice
5. denied 44 plus motions - Good motions
6. wore the robe of prosecutor
7. wore the robe of defendant
8. wore the robe of jury
9. wore the robe of judge
10. and much more, as well as stuff I probably havent even thought about.

What am I missing here? The judge should be disbarred. Has the entire judicial and bar disintegrated into uselessness. All we need to do is get back into court and it's over. I obviously do not understand procedure - That's why we need counsel.

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1. first step needed is an injunction on the property - hold up the I.R.S.
2. We need a proper Habeas Corpus
Court said they would favor lawyer submitting
3. We then need to file in the same court in Concord motion to vacate or set aside or correct a sentence thats the next step
4. We then need to file an appeal.
A. File for mistrial or for no due process
B. "Reversable error" or C. "Writ of Error"
5. and or file for new trial

My God! It's a done deal. The trial is tainted - Mistrial on Record. The record shows clearly that the judge violated his own rules over and over again.

The money is available now if we move now. Otherwise all is lost.

I'm in extreme ernest now because of this. Jesus - This is so simple. Whats wrong. This is scaring me now. This should have been easy.

Ed Brown

Love You Guys

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There is no one out of 300 million People qualified to help us. An attorney needs to speak to me. Face to face.

I need an attorney to get me able to communicate from here before they move me to God knows where. I have to be in New Hampshire according to procedure. Elaine as well.

This can be done. I need counsel. Damn - I'm beginning to think we did the wrong thing.

Getting nervous.

Ed.

[JosephSHaas]

Received today:

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MISTRIAL...

Wed Nov. 14, 2007 AD

Dear Rick:

I thank you for all of your efforts. I'm beginning to find myself stunned by our inability to find counsel that can or will help us with clear fact of record of mistrial for many reasons.
...
The judge should be disbarred. Has the entire(*) judicial and bar disintegrated into uselessness. All we need to do is get back into court and it's over. I obviously do not understand procedure - That's why we need counsel.(**)

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1. first step needed is an injunction on the property - hold up the I.R.S.
2. We need a proper Habeas Corpus
Court said they would favor lawyer submitting
3. We then need to file in the same court in Concord motion to vacate or set aside or correct a sentence thats the next step
4. We then need to file an appeal.
A. File for mistrial or for no due process
B. "Reversable error" or C. "Writ of Error"
5. and or file for new trial...

The money is available now if we move now. Otherwise all is lost...

Ed Brown

Love You Guys

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There is no one out of 300 million People qualified to help us. An attorney(***) needs to speak to me. Face to face.

I need an attorney(***) to get me able to communicate from here before they move me to God knows where. I have to be in New Hampshire according to procedure. Elaine as well.

This can be done. I need counsel.(**) Damn - I'm beginning to think we did the wrong thing.

Getting nervous.

Ed.

Thanks C7,

--The (*)= "entire "judicial and bar" has NOT disintegrated into uselessness. I note Ed uses the titles of: (1) counsel (**), and (2) attorney (***) twice in his letter, four times for both.

--The "injunction" on the property can start with his right of homestead claims to certain items, like I've already written about.  What is Elaine's son doing about getting those items? He writes that "money is available now", but where? and how much? plus more from the sale of homestead items.

--So the federal court in Youngstown wrote back that they favor an attorney on the habeas?  That Youngstown attorney has the papers I sent to him, so for me to call him or him to call me, or even visit Ed? And THEN to vacate, set aside or have a mis-trial declared, and what? a new trial? [Forget an appeal to a double-filing state in MAss. in non-compliance]. WHO wants a new trial, when he's out?  and everything back to square one. The gov't?

--Plus WHY was Ed so down on Fox-TV News? Just because the Regional Boys might have done a lousy job in reporting the news, as them putting their spotlights on the branches, while the roots are rotting, doesn't mean that the ENTIRE Fox system is corrupt; just those bad apple reporters.  A KEY question to ask them is: Did you consult your Fox News Senior Judicial Analyst? Or did you merely go up to middle level? Or no level, just winging it?

--The reason I question this is because I just saw the last 30 minutes (of what? a one-hour program?) on Channel 16 here of "American Perspectives" from 9:30-10:00 p.m. with guest speaker, Andrew Napolitano, Fox News SENIOR Judicial Analyst, who condemned John Adams for the Alien & Sedition Act that Thos. Jefferson opposed, and who also condemned Abe Lincoln for doing away with the right of habeas corpus!  Like that N.H. Judge Steve Houran, former Ass't A.G. who wouldn't give Danny a hearing on his "prima facie" case!  With NO re-actions either way from the County Attorney, nor her client: the Jail Super. in Dover.  Maybe Danny or Ed might like to hire him?  On the screen it read that he was a Superior Court Judge in N.J. 1987-95 and now in private practice.  Him telling stories of the COPs to his living room at 3:30 in the morning for a search warrant, and him telling them: (a) that without more probable cause to get lost, and (b) of 2 1/2 years later vacating the ones he signed because of this and that.

--Him saying the Patriot Act was about 315 pages long, and the Reps in Congress given only 15 minutes to read it; with only two Members of Congress who did read it before the vote, with one dead now, and the other who voted against it too. Re: The F.B.I. to raid your house while you're in church, plant listening devices, and the local COPs to chalk it down as an unsolved break-in not to be investigated.  Just like the FISA and Privacy Act for Banks, or financial institutions, but that on Dec. 13th '03 for such Bank Act, on voice vote only, THE same day that Sadam Hussein was found, it re-defined financial institutions to be a restaurant, hotel, travel agent, your lawyer, telephone company, computer server, the P.O., etc. and they can't tell you of this secret search, and if they do they could face up to 5 years in prison, and if you find out, that you have 10 days to contest these administrative search warrants withOUT probable cause, to a judge AFTER the fact.  This re-defining not discovered until Jan. 29 '04 and this type of crap, a violation of the 4th Amendment he said that is supposed to be sacred as from the 1215 Magna Charta (he called "The" Magna Charta by mistake, as Magna, technically mean THE Great, and Charter). Anyway he sounds like an excellent attorney to get on board this case, and at the end of his speech, at the Ritz Carlton on 10/26/07 in Washington, D.C. somebody said to have a nice trip back to New York, so maybe if not for Ed's habeas, then maybe over across the border into Connecticut for Elaine.

--The speech sponsored  by http://reason.com , and he's the author of the book: "A Nation of Sheep" - very appropriate, as per the cattle comment I made above too I'd say.    - JSH

P.S. For his book, see: http://www.amazon.com/Nation-Sheep-Andrew-P-Napolitano/dp/1595550976 from the original 1961 version by Wm. J. Lederer, over at http://www.constantreader.org/v3/sixtyone.html with that "very" interesting story about what the original purpose of what a "public information officer" is supposed to do, instead having "become prostituted." cc: with thanks to Carol Van Houten, e-mail: carol at constantreader dot org.

[coffeeseven]

I would imagine that it is going to be hard to get this case heard in NH. I think pretty much everyone knows who Ed and Elaine Brown are. We've got to keep trying. If every one of the people that pledged their very lives for Ed and Elaine would just call one attorney we could eliminate the dead weight pretty quick.

Tommy Cryer, Mac MacPherson and Marc Victor all said they would be glad to represent Ed and then refuse to take or return calls. This case must be a "career ender". Surely there's got to an attorney in this country that thinks what the government is doing is wrong.