Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 34

[Dave Ridley]

I know this is something i've asked before and gotten an answer...but it's been a while and I've forgotten ...  where do I find Reno's latest addie?

If someone could pm me the answer so i don't have to wade through joe's legalese that would help

also i've suggested putting jason and reno both on mail-to-jail.com

[DonnaVanMeter]

Cirino Gonzalez 76342-179
FCI EL RENO
FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION
P.O. BOX 1500
EL RENO, OK 73036

[DonnaVanMeter]

Brown supporters appeal convictions
Judge's sentencing also challenged

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091026/FRONTPAGE/910260302&template=page2

[JosephSHaas]

Brown supporters appeal convictions
Judge's sentencing also challenged

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091026/FRONTPAGE/910260302&template=page2

Thank you Donna; now here's a copy and paste of my reply over to there in a few minutes AFTER posting here:

Re: http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091026/FRONTPAGE/910260302&template=single

entitled: "Possible" Doubt Instruction violated 511 U.S 1 (1994) case-law."

of: "Thank you Margot, and especially for that: "Gordon's brief raises several other issues, including: ...• That the jury instructions did not properly reflect the requirements of the conspiracy law Gonzalez was accused of violating. "

The details* of that are over in the Appeals Brief for Cirino Gonzalez:

http://www.appealslawyer.net/briefs/Gonzalez_Cirino_BriefAsFiled.pdf

originally posted on Joshua L Gordon's site:.

http://www.appealslawyer.net/case_list.html

* He and they will win on this point of law so that the court doesn't have to get down to the constitution** (that they avoid  like the plague!) and that is V "Reasonable Doubt Instruction Diluted Government's Burden of Proof", in that "Reasonable doubt is...not mere possible doubt" Victor v. Nebraska 511 U.S. 1 (1994); so that when Singal said this "possible" word, he in effect, guaranteed them a new trial!

And so THEN they can have their NEW attorneys enter SPECIAL APPEARANCE forms because it's not so simple as you wrote of: " because the federal courthouse in Concord is not actually federal property" because it IS by their proprietary "right, title and interest" as THEY say in this bundle or phrase of words. The title there by REGISTRY of the transfer of ownership from one to another, re: to where the Sawyer Prints were made back in the old days.  The REGISTERS at both the Merrimack County Registry of Deeds and City Hall reference to such on the Property Card.  And that although THEY "say" rights, I instead say: powers, as in the creature Federal government MADE by us the creator with rights that we give only certain LIMITed powers to that of what we create. In other words: yes, they have an interest, but of what type?  An interest to PROTECT their building, but there being no jurisdictional interest over us! The Article 12 "inhabitants" http://www.nh.gov/constitution/billofrights.html  in that: "...Nor are the inhabitants of this state controllable by any other laws than those to which they, or their representative body, have given their consent." The Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 "Consent" of the United States Constitution. On June 14, 1883 we gave them Consent, but of what type?  A "conditional" consent, or actually an "offer" [ * ]OF Consent, that by their own Title 40 U.S. Code, Section 255 http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?citeid=393575  reads as follows:  See: http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Misc/PressStatementSchulz9-16-03.htm of: "In view of 40 USCS 255, no jurisdiction exists in United States to enforce federal criminal laws, unless and until consent to accept jurisdiction over lands acquired by United States has been filed in behalf of United States as provided in said section, and fact that state has authorized [ * ] government to take jurisdiction is immaterial." Adams v. United States (1943) 319 US 312, 87 L Ed. 1421, 63 S. Ct. 1122. (Quoted from U.S. statute 40 USCS 255, Interpretive Note #14, citing the US Supreme Court)." THEY even spell it out in their own U.S. Attorney Manual #664 at http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm00664.htm The statute you ask? N.H. R.S.A. Chapter 123:1 http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-IX-123.htm and probably never filed or REGISTERed with our N.H. Office of Secretary of State because THEY want more than just an RSA Ch. 123:2 property tax exemption of the land, but for their buildings too, assessed at about $111 million, that if at the $20.00 per $1000 of valuation would amount to a yearly tax for them to pay The City of Concord (and Merrimack County) over $2.2 million per year! We have this  power to tax them "forever" mentioned in our Article 7, N.H. Constitution, Part First & Bill of Rights.

Yours truly, JosephSHaas at hotmail dot com, founding member of V.O.C.A.L.S., Inc. [Victims of a Corrupt American Legal System], in 2010 maybe to amend to: Victors of a Corrected American Lawful System.

P.S. I also like: page 42/54: "Mere possession of a gun does not implicitly create a threat. See e.g. United States v. Chapple, 942 D.2d439, 442 (7th Cir. 1991)".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBC27Xem-EU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTu9HaHDI0A&feature=related "

[JosephSHaas]

... so i don't have to wade through joe's legalese....

David: to "wade"* as in to "walk"? How insulting!  It's "goose-step" time in a "hike"! 

* "To make one's way arduously**"

** arduous: DEMANDing great effort or labor; strenuous; difficult; from the Latin word: arduus of high***, steep.

Yours truly, Your "high"ness. 

[Mike Barskey]

I have confirmed that Elaine is being imprisoned at the FMC in Carswell, and that the mailing address is:
Elaine Brown
#03924-049
FMC Carswell
Federal Medical Center
P.O. Box 27137
Fort Worth, TX 76127

They would not tell me how long she would be there. I have updated this info on Mail-to-Jail.

[Kat Kanning]

She's likely to be there the rest of her life.

[JosephSHaas]

She's likely to be there the rest of her life.

I "highly" doubt it VERY much!  Although we have crooks in government, they have NOT taken over the whole system of checks and balances.  So yes, we have their disease of these bad apples in our barrel of government, not this ship-of-state B.S., and so needing the tools to eradicate them: to pluck them up by the roots. As like when they "pull"ed Danny's case #2007-0745 to the Feds.  That was AGAINST the law, and the N.H. Supreme Court judges were and are their co-horts!  The ONLY way for Federal REmoval is by a push by the Defendant, and NOT a pull by the Intervenor! So I say to the Feds: "pluck you"! Yes PLUCK YOU in capital letters, all the way to your individual destruction of the uproot by having those officers not doing their job, and those doing their jobs in the wrong and KNOWing it, erased from the government payroll!

[JosephSHaas]

Here's another copy and paste:

"Log Book copy please, Devens BOP, MAss.
From:    Joseph S. Haas (josephshaas at hotmail.com)
Sent:    Tue 10/27/09 1:29 PM
To:    ntsongas at nikitsongas.com
Cc:    senator_kirk at kirk.senate.gov
Bcc:    ________________________

To: U.S. Representative Niki Tsongas
11 Kearney Square, 3rd Floor
Lowell, MA 01852
(978) 459-0101
Attn: Emey
http://tsongas.house.gov/index.html

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/senators/one_item_and_teasers/kirk.htm

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=MA

Dear Rep. Tsongas:

--Good afternoon to you, Emey and that woman who did answer the Washington, D.C. telephone for Ted Kennedy's replacement in Congress.  I had earlier called U.S. Senator John Kerry's office in Washington, and some Patrick there transferred me over to some "Foreign" Affairs by mistake, and so I said to heck with dealing with his "outfit"!

--Now Emey: I see that the zip code for the Devens letter as in the copy and paste below of 01434 works at your website, but NOT for Ayer, MAss. 01732 to where my friend is located and with a P.O.A. (Power of Attorney) from him and his wife to help them file a monetary claim of up to $50,000 each with the N.H. RSA Ch. 541-B:1-23 State Board of Claims  http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-LV-541-B.htm  against The N.H. Dept. of Safety here and its Commissioner for their and his failure to Article 12 "protect" him as an "inhabitant" from when that RSA Ch. 123:1 federal "officer" has FAILed to file with our N.H. Secretary of State as required by the statute and law as indicated below for 1-81-17 U.S., and 40USC255. See: http://www.nh.gov/constitution/billofrights.html  and http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-IX-123.htm  respectfully, and with wrongful actions subsequently committed by local, county, state and federal agents. It is the federal agents part that concerns you.  I've asked both of my U.S. Senators Judd Gregg and Jeanne Shaheen for WHO this RSA Chapter 123:1 federal "officer" is, and three paydays have gone by so far of Fridays, October 9, 16, + 23 of my employers paying into this "system" but that when I want to know WHO my "public servant" is who I've paid for this action, and WHY he or she has NOT done their job, I find it very annoying of this run-around to the point of now having to go outside the state to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and you Feds there and maybe with a Petition for a Writ of Habeas Corpus with that __________ County Superior Court, or when my friend is transported back to Strafford County in Dover, N.H.

--Hopefully you can start to correct this by PLEASE getting me the name of the gatekeeper there and a copy of the log book for WHO entered him in from WHO and because of the illegality of him being there to do something about it now, rather than on yet another appeal!  See item #12 of 12 as I've indicated in my Reply to The CONCORD (NH) MONITOR story about this over at: http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091026/FRONTPAGE/910260302   that refers over to The Brief at: http://www.appealslawyer.net/briefs/Gonzalez_Cirino_BriefAsFiled.pdf

Yours truly, - - - - - - - - - Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059 (cell phone), e-mail: JosephSHaas at hotmail dot com

pc: U.S. Senator Paul G. Kirk, Jr., Democrat, 317 Russell Senate Office Building, Washington, D. C. 20510, Tel. 202-224-4543

P.S. The below copy and past is of my Reply #9187 on page 613 of Friday, October 9th, 2009 @ 1:33 PM that was postmarked to Lt. Spina the day after Columbus Day, on Tue., Oct. 13th, with my phone call to him and his back to me of last Thursday, Oct. 22nd that he never received my envelope nor letter in the #10 envelope, with copy that I mailed to Ed at the same time from The Concord, N.H. Post Office, and my 2nd call to him this morning 10/27 in that he's been on duty there since this past Spring, but that his gate-keeping duties are to the Fort only as separate from this Federal Facility. http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=3868.9180  Thus WHO is the Federal gatekeeper, and WHERE are his records of WHO accepted Ed from WHO, as I'd like an internal check of to see if legal or lawful that is is NOT! so as to be corrected administratively by the executive branch of the federal government as a check against this corruption in the courts: of this Art. III, Section 1 inferior Court of Congress, YOUR court! in N.H. doing this dirty-work! BEFORE of ANY of said Petition as mentioned to the County Court in either MAss. or N.H."

Mod. Tel. # not 979, but 978.

[Kat Kanning]

She's likely to be there the rest of her life.

I "highly" doubt it VERY much!  Although we have crooks in government, they have NOT taken over the whole system of checks and balances. 

Well, I hope you're right.

[JosephSHaas]

Ed,

Yes, Devens withIN Ayer, MAss. is withIN Middlesex County, and the closest courthouse is in Lowell, MA 01852 (360 Gorham Street, tel. 617-788-8130 main # over to 978-453-0201) but the man there on a press 280 for Civil said that all NEW cases start out of the Main Office: Middlesex County Superior Court, 200 Trade Center, Woburn, MA 01801 Tel. 781-939-2700 ___*

* to call there about getting you a Petition for Writ of Habeas Corpus form (like the one I used in Grafton County, N.H. and got out of jail thanks to the form in McNamara's "Criminal Practice & Procedure" book).

Reference: http://www.mass.gov/legis/const.htm for The Massachusetts Constitution, Part The Second, Chapter VI, Article VII of: "The privilege and benefit of the writ of habeas corpus shall be enjoyed in this commonwealth in the most free, easy, cheap, expeditious and ample manner; and shall not be suspended by the legislature, except upon the most urgent and pressing occasions, and for a limited time not exceeding twelve months."

Thus for the judge there to see to it that unless the Feds there can supply proof of the N.H. filing as the end does NOT justify the means, as in the turn-over to there by N.H. Deputy Marshals of the U.S. Marshal Service which is in default of N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 for the 40USC255 non acceptance of such, that you either be released forthwith to freedom, or at least back to Strafford County for our N.H. judge to deal with this illegal and unlawful incarceration.

Good luck, -- Joe

* At Press 5 for Civil, the man transferred me to Press 4 for Criminal Attn: Mary, where I got her voice mail, and left a message that she send the form to me, so that I can attach all the documentation of the above and re-send to you, but by that time you might be out of there? back to Dover?  Anyway, it's being done as soon as she listens to my voice recording, and to get back to you.

P.S. Just like what Danny did in Dover too, but that at the time he didn't have that 40USC255 stuff nor the 1943 Adams case from the U.S. Supreme Court.  The Federal system of that you've got to first file a habeas with the sentencing court, and then by Rule 63 to whatever federal court be in the jurisdiction of your next location for what's called the collateral attack. This latest info thanks to Reno.

[grolled]

Joe,

You keep mentioning 40USC225 but I can't find it.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/40/usc_sup_01_40_08_I.html

Does it still exist?

[LordBaltimore]

They would not tell me how long she would be there.

From the BOP website:

ELAINE BROWN   03924-049    68-White-F    10-26-2042   CARSWELL FMC

[JosephSHaas]

Joe,

You keep mentioning 40USC225 but I can't find it.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/40/usc_sup_01_40_08_I.html

Does it still exist?

It disappears from page #1 at GOOGLE every now and then for some strange reason it's not there today, re: 40 USC 255 (with the spaces), or 40USC255. 

Here it is from Archives here: http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?citeid=393575

[grolled]

Joe,

You keep mentioning 40USC225 but I can't find it.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/40/usc_sup_01_40_08_I.html

Does it still exist?

It disappears from page #1 at GOOGLE every now and then for some strange reason it's not there today, re: 40 USC 255 (with the spaces), or 40USC255. 

Here it is from Archives here: http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?citeid=393575

I know but that is from Archives and doesn't appear currently to exist in the US Code.

All sites with United States Code (USC) do not have 40 USC 225.